Difference between CPU's for gaming performance

[Merackon]

Hello,

Just to fill a avoid in my interests, does, for gaming using, how much difference would you notice between the following:

3770k vs 3570k

3930k vs 3570k

3960x vs 3570k

3970x vs 3570k

and vice versa.

Just wondering,

Thanks

[Glenwing]

1. None

2. Depends on the game

3. Same as 3930K

4. Same as 3930K and 3960X

 

Just thought I'd point out, the i7-3930K, i7-3960X, and i7-3970X are basically all the same CPU.  The reason the Extreme Editions exist are for the record breaking overclockers who don't have to worry as much about budget and are willing to pay the extra premium for the higher binned part that is guaranteed to get every last megahertz.

 

Games don't benefit very much from hyperthreading, so in most games the difference between a quad-core CPU and a quad-core hyperthreaded CPU within a few frames per second.  Even in games which benefit greatly from more than 4 threads, such as Battlefield 3, a quad-core HTT-off and quad-core HTT-on perform pretty much identically while six-core HTT-off pulls way ahead (and six-core HTT-on performs the same).

 

There are some games out there which gain a fairly substantial gain from the i7-3930K over the i5-3570K.  Usually not enough to justify the doubled cost of the CPU and the board, but if you're making a very high budget gaming machine that might be something to consider.

[Andi]

Hello,

Just to fill a avoid in my interests, does, for gaming using, how much difference would you notice between the following:

3770k vs 3570k

3930k vs 3570k

3960x vs 3570k

3970x vs 3570k

and vice versa.

Just wondering,

Thanks

 

if you have a normal setup, say 1 7950:

 

3770k vs 3570k -> 3770k 1-2% faster

3930k vs 3570k -> nearly the same, 3570k may be a bit faster

3960x vs 3570k -> nearly the same, 3960k may be a bit faster

3970x vs 3570k -> 3970x 1-2% faster

 

so...buy a 3570k :D

 

 

there are 1-2 games out there that will perform better on 6 cores, than it could be 10% faster. but it will take years before optimisation

like that is in all games.

 

it took over 5 years to see a real difference between dual and quad cores

[Hyydrah]

1. None

2. Depends on the game

3. Same as 3930K

4. Same as 3930K and 3960X

 

Just thought I'd point out, the i7-3930K, i7-3960X, and i7-3970X are basically all the same CPU.  The reason the Extreme Editions exist are for the record breaking overclockers who don't have to worry as much about budget and are willing to pay the extra premium for the higher binned part that is guaranteed to get every last megahertz.

 

Games don't benefit very much from hyperthreading, so in most games the difference between a quad-core CPU and a quad-core hyperthreaded CPU within a few frames per second.  Even in games which benefit greatly from more than 4 threads, such as Battlefield 3, a quad-core HTT-off and quad-core HTT-on perform pretty much identically while six-core HTT-off pulls way ahead (and six-core HTT-on performs the same).

 

There are some games out there which gain a fairly substantial gain from the i7-3930K over the i5-3570K.  Usually not enough to justify the doubled cost of the CPU and the board, but if you're making a very high budget gaming machine that might be something to consider.

Ironically, some games actually show a marginal performance gain when Hyper Threading is disabled.

[Hyydrah]

Basically you're better off upgrading your GPU in order to improve frame rates. Anything above a 3570 (or even some processors below it) will be more than sufficient in most games, and keep in mind that even on memory-intensive games at 2560x1600 such as ArmA 3, a 2GB GPU is more than enough and you won't benefit from more VRAM in most scenarios.

[ClutchHunter]

Good gosh. Lost of misinformation. Very simple: 

 

If game X supports multithreading, a 3770k/39xxk will beat a 3570k by a noticeable amount. If however game X does not support multithreading, there should be near to no difference at all between them. 

 

Bear in mind that the 'next-gen' consoles will support multithreading, so ports may start utilising that more-so than previously. 

[Glenwing]

Good gosh. Lost of misinformation. Very simple: 

 

If game X supports multithreading, a 3770k/39xxk will beat a 3570k by a noticeable amount. If however game X does not support multithreading, there should be near to no difference at all between them. 

 

Bear in mind that the 'next-gen' consoles will support multithreading, so ports may start utilising that more-so than previously. 

 

There's a big difference between additional physical cores, which benefit games that take advantage of lots of cores, and virtual hyperthreaded cores, which provide basically no benefit even in games that benefit from more cores.  It's not as simple as "this CPU supports more threads, so it will perform better in games that are more highly threaded".  As you can see below that's simply not true and in fact hyperthreading actually decreases performance, even when adding more physical cores increases it.

 

[Guest GRRigger]

Ok, completelly different archi, but what about FX-8350 ? 

[Glenwing]

Performs like an i5-3570K/i7-3770K in games.  Sometimes better, sometimes worse, depends on how heavy the game relies on single-threaded performance vs multi-core.

[MasterJV]

Ok, completelly different archi, but what about FX-8350 ?

I know right. The FX-8350 will perform a hair behind these CPUs in gaming and it 10-30 dollars cheaper than the i5 3570k. The only downside is that it uses a bit more power and gets hotter.