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Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 3D / Gaming / Programming

I know that RAM prices are currently insane, which is why I'm trying to "cheap out" on ram, I still want something REALLY fast/good since I do lots of multi tasking but on benchmark videos I've seen the performance is really REALLY negligible. Worse sometimes the CL36 seems to be performing better than the CL30. The price gap is NOT negligible, sometimes between 50$ and 100$+ difference between CL36 and CL30.

(Talking about DDR5)

CL30 is 10ns
While CL36 is 12ns which is very negligible no?

I'm genuinely confused on what I should choose... I thought I was fine with the CL30, but more I look at stuff online more I'm wondering if a 75$ more is worth it... Why would I need (or not need) CL30?

To be honest, I'm not even sure what I actually need, and I'd like actual advice, suggestions, resources or/and recommendations!

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xXrtPJ


Thanks in advance!

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5 minutes ago, BuggedCookie said:

Budget (including currency): Canadian $$$

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 3D / Gaming / Programming

I know that RAM prices are currently insane, which is why I'm trying to "cheap out" on ram, I still want something REALLY fast/good since I do lots of multi tasking but on benchmark videos I've seen the performance is really REALLY negligible. Worse sometimes the CL36 seems to be performing better than the CL30. The price gap is NOT negligible, sometimes between 50$ and 100$+ difference between CL36 and CL30.

(Talking about DDR5)

CL30 is 10ns
While CL36 is 12ns which is very negligible no?

I'm genuinely confused on what I should choose... I thought I was fine with the CL30, but more I look at stuff online more I'm wondering if a 75$ more is worth it... Why would I need (or not need) CL30?

To be honest, I'm not even sure what I actually need, and I'd like actual advice, suggestions, resources or/and recommendations!

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xXrtPJ


Thanks in advance!

Paying 50$ - 100$ more for CL30 over CL36 is absolute madness.

There is such a little performance gain with CL30 over CL36 in most if not all applications.

Get the CL36 kit.

 

These are a bit cheaper than some 6000Mhz CL30 kits I see, I actually have them in my own system.

But if you can find CL36 for around 200$, I wouldn't pay that much for CL30.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/q7LdnQ/kingston-fury-beast-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-kf560c30bbek2-32

 

Black Friday is riiiight around the corner, maybe you can score a decent deal on some CL30 kits if thats what you are really after.

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8 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Paying 50$ - 100$ more for CL30 over CL36 is absolute madness.

So I'm not hallucinating... I thought the same

8 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

But if you can find CL36 for around 200$, I wouldn't pay that much for CL30.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/q7LdnQ/kingston-fury-beast-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-kf560c30bbek2-32

Unfortunately everything is out of stock except "Memory express" which I never heard of

Some kits with taxes go as high as 350$... and for the worse of the worse I've seen some kit goes as high at 500$... this is pure madness

 

I'm searching but I'm not even sure what to look at
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=32768002&F=9643718,11333333&sort=price&page=1
 

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6 minutes ago, BuggedCookie said:

So I'm not hallucinating... I thought the same

Unfortunately everything is out of stock except "Memory express" which I never heard of

Some kits with taxes go as high as 350$... and for the worse of the worse I've seen some kit goes as high at 500$... this is pure madness

 

I'm searching but I'm not even sure what to look at
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=32768002&F=9643718,11333333&sort=price&page=1
 

Write 6000 cl30 or 6000 cl36 in the search bar on the top right and all kits with that will come up.

And then you can sort by price

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2 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Write 6000 cl30 or 6000 cl36 in the search bar on the top right and all kits with that will come up.

And then you can sort by price

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Kind of what I did, but each time I go on some website the prices are... very different

For example with amazon it's about 50 to 100$ more than what it shows... (Ex: 250 -> 350)

And when it's cheap, it's from sketchy third party seller that I'm not even sure if I want to trust...

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2 minutes ago, BuggedCookie said:

Kind of what I did, but each time I go on some website the prices are... very different

For example with amazon it's about 50 to 100$ more than what it shows... (Ex: 250 -> 350)

And when it's cheap, it's from sketchy third party seller that I'm not even sure if I want to trust...

We dont have Amazon here where I live so I wouldn't know.  I have never used that website.

Prices on Canadian Amazon and US Amazon won't show for me 90% of the time as they don't ship here.

And Canadacomputers.com won't allow visits on the website from Norway for some reason, geo blocked lol.

Helping Canadians have been a struggle due to living in Norway.

 

Again, maybe wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday if you can.

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2 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

We dont have Amazon here where I live so I wouldn't know.  I have never used that website.

Prices on Canadian Amazon and US Amazon won't show for me 90% of the time as they don't ship here.

And Canadacomputers.com won't allow visits on the website from Norway for some reason, geo blocked lol.

Helping Canadians have been a struggle due to living in Norway.

 

Again, maybe wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday if you can.

I really appreciate your help still, thanks a lot!

I'll continue researching and if I find something at lower price that 350$... I'll quote or tag you!

as for anyone else, I'm still open for help/suggestions etc..
 

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16 minutes ago, BuggedCookie said:

So I'm not hallucinating... I thought the same

Unfortunately everything is out of stock except "Memory express" which I never heard of

Some kits with taxes go as high as 350$... and for the worse of the worse I've seen some kit goes as high at 500$... this is pure madness

 

I'm searching but I'm not even sure what to look at
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=32768002&F=9643718,11333333&sort=price&page=1
 

Memory Express is the second biggest Canadian computer retailer.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

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1 minute ago, BuggedCookie said:

I really appreciate your help still, thanks a lot!

I'll continue researching and if I find something at lower price that 350$... I'll quote or tag you!

as for anyone else, I'm still open for help/suggestions etc..
 

Please do, keep me updated.

I do use a VPN so I can go to Canadacomputers.com 😄 

And Memory Express is very popular and reputable.

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23 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Please do, keep me updated.

I do use a VPN so I can go to Canadacomputers.com 😄 

And Memory Express is very popular and reputable.

https://www.newegg.ca/patriot-memory-viper-elite-5-ultra-32gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl28-desktop-memory-matte-black/p/N82E16820225350?item=N82E16820225350
It's CL28

Patriot Viper Elite 5 Ultra 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model VEU532G6028K

Found this for cheaper than CL30 (266.99$) instead of (299$)

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2 minutes ago, BuggedCookie said:

https://www.newegg.ca/patriot-memory-viper-elite-5-ultra-32gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl28-desktop-memory-matte-black/p/N82E16820225350?item=N82E16820225350
It's CL28

Patriot Viper Elite 5 Ultra 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model VEU532G6028K

Found this for cheaper than CL30 (266.99$) instead of (299$)

Cl28 is fine 🙂 

Thats a good kit.

They also have CL30 for 269.

Patriot Viper kits are very popular due to their lower price, they are still awesome kits and work well.

https://www.newegg.ca/patriot-memory-viper-venom-32gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl30-desktop-memory-matte-black/p/N82E16820225334

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Low profile DDR5-6000 CL30 AMD EXPO certified RAM that doesn't impede that dual tower cpu cooler. A conventional case with far better airflow than that fish tank case, especially when using an air cooler (basic physics), a 2TB SSD w/DRAM cache and a ATX 3.1 psu for that RTX 5070.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($439.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($262.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: *Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($212.96 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC SFF GeForce RTX 5070 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: *ASRock Steel Legend SL-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($87.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $2188.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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On 11/10/2025 at 8:31 PM, Why_Me said:

Low profile DDR5-6000 CL30 AMD EXPO certified RAM that doesn't impede that dual tower cpu cooler. A conventional case with far better airflow than that fish tank case, especially when using an air cooler (basic physics), a 2TB SSD w/DRAM cache and a ATX 3.1 psu for that RTX 5070.

Thanks a lot for the suggestions:
I can't change some of the components as I already have bought most of them, except the CPU, RAM and GPU 

  • Power Supply: I got it for free since it was very defective (Luckily mine just refused to boot 90% of the time)
  • Storage: (I'll have dual/triple boot setup: Windows/Linux) I already have a 1tb NVME (~3gb/s) and I bought another 1tb (~5gb/s) for 100$ CAD. About the speed of both of them: for downloads I'll be limited by websites or my own internet connection and a few seconds of difference in loading time for games or app is negligible to me, as for other type of storage I have 1tb of sata SSD and 750Gb of sata HDD
  • If you think about it, in the end you I'll limited by either CPU, RAM, OS, File System or even the program/game used and often compression and many other factors
  • Memory: I might go with both you and Hinjima suggested: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($257.00  @ ShopRBC (They have new stocks)) even after shipping and taxes it's much cheaper that anything else
  • Case: Fish tank because it's pretty but also because it's "large" (I won't feel like it's going to tip over if I hit it with my elbow by accident somehow ) and fits perfectly on the corner of my desk.
     

Thanks a lot for your time 😄

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On 11/10/2025 at 8:31 PM, Why_Me said:

Low profile DDR5-6000 CL30 AMD EXPO certified RAM that doesn't impede that dual tower cpu cooler. A conventional case with far better airflow than that fish tank case, especially when using an air cooler (basic physics), a 2TB SSD w/DRAM cache and a ATX 3.1 psu for that RTX 5070.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($439.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($262.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: *Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($212.96 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC SFF GeForce RTX 5070 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: *ASRock Steel Legend SL-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($87.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $2188.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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On 11/10/2025 at 7:16 PM, Hinjima said:

Cl28 is fine 🙂 

Thats a good kit.

They also have CL30 for 269.

Patriot Viper kits are very popular due to their lower price, they are still awesome kits and work well.

https://www.newegg.ca/patriot-memory-viper-venom-32gb-ddr5-6000-cas-latency-cl30-desktop-memory-matte-black/p/N82E16820225334

Sorry for the notification, one question + update:

  • Update: I have received the motherboard IT'S BEAUTIFUL, sending pictures only when I get EVERYTHING

 

  • Question, is CL28 or CL30 really worth it over CL36 with DDR5?

(I don't know if this video is even accurate, just sending it, but I didn't based myself just on that, I made more researches both videos and articles I had found)

After watching videos, including LTT, JayzTwoCent and some researches
 

I'm genuinely wondering if CL28 / CL30 is even worth it for a 50$ to 100$ difference, I know for DDR4 it might have been a big difference. But to me, it really looks like since DDR5, the difference isn't as "massive" as it used to be, even in artificial benchmark the difference is around ~3 to 10% AT MOST.
In some cases it seems that higher CAS Latency with tighter timings, is about the same as CL28/CL30 and overclocking exist, even then you can get that 3% to 10% back, no? (Genuinely asking)

From my research, I don't know if this is fully accurate, but AMD CPUs seems to benefit more from tight and well balanced memory timings than just low CAS latency. a CL28/CL30 kit with loose or unoptimized timings could perform about the same as a CL36 kit with better, balanced timings.

I even seen benchmark where the CL36 perform a little better than CL28 or CL30 due to more balanced timings 

In the end it's 2ns of difference and with DDR5 it barely seem to matter.

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On 11/10/2025 at 8:31 PM, Why_Me said:

Low profile DDR5-6000 CL30 AMD EXPO certified RAM that doesn't impede that dual tower cpu cooler. A conventional case with far better airflow than that fish tank case, especially when using an air cooler (basic physics), a 2TB SSD w/DRAM cache and a ATX 3.1 psu for that RTX 5070.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($439.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($262.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: *Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($212.96 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC SFF GeForce RTX 5070 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: *ASRock Steel Legend SL-750G 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($87.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $2188.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-11-10 20:31 EST-0500

Hello, it's me again,

I might buy the PSU since I may or may not sell an old computer with the PSU I currently have, to buy a PSU with a native 12VHPWR Connecto

The one you recommended is it just because it's cheap or it's reliable?
Because I kind of don't want a PSU that will fry components because I went cheap on it


Thanks a lot !



 

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2 minutes ago, BuggedCookie said:

Hello, it's me again,

I might buy the PSU since I may or may not sell an old computer with the PSU I currently have, to buy a PSU with a native 12VHPWR Connecto

The one you recommended is it just because it's cheap or it's reliable?
Because I kind of don't want a PSU that will fry components because I went cheap on it


Thanks a lot !
 

https://www.asrock.com/Power-Supply/SteelLegend/SL-750G/  

 

https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/2669/

 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/asrock-steel-legend-sl-850g-psu-review/

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6 hours ago, Why_Me said:

Thanks a lot, will buy 😄

I'm starting to get it more and more for some stuff, but even though I think something is good, still prefer asking to be sure I buy the right thing, it's... not given. Also I now realized that my previous message may have sounded wrong/cold, not my intention

Really appreciate the help as always!

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On 11/16/2025 at 2:38 AM, Why_Me said:

Somehow the universe smiled at me or something because all DDR5 kit I wanted are out of stock or most of them went from 300 to 400$ even some as high as 600$... (I'm not exagerating, never seen something like this holy....)
(The worse is that most of them were CL32 to CL40, some of them not even 6000mt/s)


Yet I suddenly fell onto some DDR5 6400Mt/s 32gb CL32 for 290$ from crucial which is far less than any other kits that I could find nearby where I live in Canada for now

bought them, now all I need is thermal paste and CPU 😄
CAN'T WAIIIIIT I'm so impatient

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On 11/16/2025 at 2:38 AM, Why_Me said:

 

 

UPDATE

 

BEAUTIFUL, Finally have everything*

- Still waiting for the MSI PSU (MSI MAG A750GL)

- And the thermal paste

- and obviously the GPU which might be the 5070 Ti or just the 5070 I have no idea I can't decide yet

I was thinking RX 9070 XT because better raw performances but also compatibility problem with some application

and MUCH worse performances with Blender... Cycles... which is really important to me

 

And I'm leaning toward 5070 because it's much cheaper than other options and fits the rest of my budget... and I honestly don't mind lowering graphics ever so slightly

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, BuggedCookie said:

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UPDATE

 

BEAUTIFUL, Finally have everything*

- Still waiting for the MSI PSU (MSI MAG A750GL)

- And the thermal paste

- and obviously the GPU which might be the 5070 Ti or just the 5070 I have no idea I can't decide yet

I was thinking RX 9070 XT because better raw performances but also compatibility problem with some application

and MUCH worse performances with Blender... Cycles... which is really important to me

 

And I'm leaning toward 5070 because it's much cheaper than other options and fits the rest of my budget... and I honestly don't mind lowering graphics ever so slightly

 

Look at a ATX 3.1 psu for these RTX 50XX cards due to the power adapter. 750W for the 5070, 850W for the 5070 Ti and 9070 XT.

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3 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Look at a ATX 3.1 psu for these RTX 50XX cards due to the power adapter. 750W for the 5070, 850W for the 5070 Ti and 9070 XT.

ATX 3.1 means it just has the 12VHPWR connector is that right?

 

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