Switching from windows to Linux.

[Ihavesmallpp]

i made the switch. From windows to linux mint. and i love it. ppl always said terminal was going to be hard I'm still wondering what they are talking about. ik it can get pretty hard but installing programs etc. for me is pretty easy to be honest. I'm using Linux mint 22.1 with cinnamon DE. I hated cinnamon at first but realized i could customize it. All i really did was make everything transparent and a red theme. I did try fedora 42. that sucked, Wifi after 1 reboot did not work i found no fix online. so instead went to linux mint. That was definitely the better decision. I do need a little help about turning on vsync i could only find the option for opengl I'm using nvidia gpu and drivers. I got games like marvel rivals to work. Had a directx 12 error i just used the gaming drivers instead. barley any hick ups to be honest. I've been loving im still dual booting with windows thou. Marvel rivals has these weird bug after 35 minutes or so my camera and movement is really choppy. only reason using windows still.

[Black_Mage]

Check this out. Anthony used to make great Linux videos for LTT. Then he disappeared. I miss Mac Address too. I guess anything not Windows related gets pushed aside in LMG.

 

 

[Ihavesmallpp]

2 hours ago, Black_Mage said:

Check this out. Anthony used to make great Linux videos for LTT. Then he disappeared. I miss Mac Address too. I guess anything not Windows related gets pushed aside in LMG.

 

 

Yea i feel that way to. wile i do hate apple I hate macos ios its just not my thing for me personally. But seems weird for them just to cancel mac address. We should get a new Linux channel as every Linux video they upload to LTT seems to get millions of views.

[Ihavesmallpp]

2 hours ago, Black_Mage said:

Check this out. Anthony used to make great Linux videos for LTT. Then he disappeared. I miss Mac Address too. I guess anything not Windows related gets pushed aside in LMG.

 

 

Thanks for the video to it was pretty helpful.

[RollyShed]

3 hours ago, Ihavesmallpp said:

ppl always said terminal was going to be hard I'm still wondering what they are talking about.

I keep wondering that too as the 50+ users I've set up don't know Terminal exists.

 

Getting Linux on to a USB stick for installing, if the downloaded iso file is on a Linux computer, right click on it and "Make bootable USB stick" is about the 4th item down the menu that appears. Couldn't be easier.

[Ihavesmallpp]

16 minutes ago, RollyShed said:

I keep wondering that too as the 50+ users I've set up don't know Terminal exists.

 

Getting Linux on to a USB stick for installing, if the downloaded iso file is on a Linux computer, right click on it and "Make bootable USB stick" is about the 4th item down the menu that appears. Couldn't be easier.

I know right. You copy and paste commands or just use the app store. so easy.

[RollyShed]

2 hours ago, Ihavesmallpp said:

You copy and paste commands

What commands would they want to use?

2 hours ago, Ihavesmallpp said:

or just use the app store. so easy.

Software Manager if an app is to be installed. However if I've done the installation they won't need anything else. They'll have everything needed already installed.

[BootlessBuck]

11 hours ago, Ihavesmallpp said:

I know right. You copy and paste commands or just use the app store. so easy.

Copying and pasting command from the internet, without knowing what they do, is not advised. 

[Ralphred]

2 hours ago, BootlessBuck said:

Copying and pasting command from the internet, without knowing what they do, is not advised. 

Indeed. For some support things though it's a lot easier to ask for the output of "known command" than to try and negotiate someone else around a GUI you have to try and recall all iterations of from memory. This applies to Linux even more so, as many GUI elements are just a front-end to otherwise CLI commands.

[brukar]

22 hours ago, Ihavesmallpp said:

I did try fedora 42. that sucked, Wifi after 1 reboot did not work i found no fix online. so instead went to linux mint.

May I ask which wifi adapter you use? I am currently on Mint but am considering Fedora 42 for gpu driver reasons.

[Ihavesmallpp]

16 hours ago, RollyShed said:

What commands would they want to use?

Software Manager if an app is to be installed. However if I've done the installation they won't need anything else. They'll have everything needed already installed.

you know command to install apps

[Ihavesmallpp]

28 minutes ago, brukar said:

May I ask which wifi adapter you use? I am currently on Mint but am considering Fedora 42 for gpu driver reasons.

intel ax3000

[Ihavesmallpp]

7 hours ago, BootlessBuck said:

Copying and pasting command from the internet, without knowing what they do, is not advised. 

i only do that for installing apps. I ALWAYS GOOGLE THE COMMAND FIRST. or i ask chatgpt greatest linux tool ever

[Ihavesmallpp]

4 hours ago, Ralphred said:

Indeed. For some support things though it's a lot easier to ask for the output of "known command" than to try and negotiate someone else around a GUI you have to try and recall all iterations of from memory. This applies to Linux even more so, as many GUI elements are just a front-end to otherwise CLI commands.

yeah. why know a command when you could paste it had to reinstall my os cus i wanted a new de and did not make a backup.

[RollyShed]

5 hours ago, Ihavesmallpp said:

you know command to install apps

I don't know what "command to install apps" you are talking about.

 

All apps needed are already in the Software Manager or are deb files which load the same way you load an exe file in Windows.

 

And of the 50+ users I know? NO, none need any apps not already installed by me and not using the Terminal.

[Ralphred]

17 hours ago, Ihavesmallpp said:

or i ask chatgpt greatest linux tool ever

Grok is objectively superior, even when teaching "grandma to suck eggs". /sigh.

11 hours ago, RollyShed said:

All apps needed are already in the Software Manager

I think he's referring to the the fact that a "GUI software manager" is fairly recent addition to a Linux distro's "ubiquitous preinstalled GUI software".

 

TBPH, there needs to be distro-agnostic aliases added to /etc/bash/bashrc.d/software-management-aliases.bash. No distro I'm aware of uses the commands "install", "uninstall" or "install-search", it's all dpkg, apt, pacman, rpm, emerge etc. There is no reason that install can't be an alias to [whatever package manager is relevant] --install [package name], and when [package name] fails run a general search and suggest potentially correct [package name]s.

The same goes for "install-search", have a --description or --tags switch so you can search for "music player" or "web browser". Yes, these options exists within most package managers, but that is no excuse for not implementing a "ubiquitous standard for PM install, search, and uninstall functions" - using "aliasing" is barely a lazy scratching of the surface of possibilities achievable with meaningful collaboration.

[RollyShed]

3 hours ago, Ralphred said:

I think he's referring to the the fact that a "GUI software manager" is fairly recent addition to a Linux distro's

Only a decade old?

I need to boot a Linux Mint 11 DVD and see what was available.

 

Why are we talking about old versions anyway?

If "GUI software manager" is available and has been for quite a few years then surely that's what a new user will use.

[Ihavesmallpp]

16 hours ago, RollyShed said:

I don't know what "command to install apps" you are talking about.

 

All apps needed are already in the Software Manager or are deb files which load the same way you load an exe file in Windows.

 

And of the 50+ users I know? NO, none need any apps not already installed by me and not using the Terminal.

yes i already know sudo apt install etc and flatpak install etc. but sometimes they are named something completely different. flatpak. but not all apps are in the software manager. only 3 out of the 10 apps i had to install using terminal.

[Ihavesmallpp]

38 minutes ago, RollyShed said:

Only a decade old?

I need to boot a Linux Mint 11 DVD and see what was available.

 

Why are we talking about old versions anyway?

If "GUI software manager" is available and has been for quite a few years then surely that's what a new user will use.

i love software manager on linux mint it was awesome. But not every app is on their.

[Ralphred]

1 hour ago, RollyShed said:

I need to boot a Linux Mint 11 DVD and see what was available.

Apart from Mint 11 actually looking really good: Bro, I said "think", we've been interacting together here long enough that you should know if I have to "actively think" then the probability of the output being garbage is well above 50%. Now ask an easy question about kernel hacking for unsupported hardware, why SATA interfaces electronically "shout" on 99% of installs, or a script to automate some tedious corner case driver instantiation - you know, the kind of things I can do without having to "think" 

[NoLeafClover]

23 hours ago, Ralphred said:

TBPH, there needs to be distro-agnostic aliases added to /etc/bash/bashrc.d/software-management-aliases.bash. No distro I'm aware of uses the commands "install", "uninstall" or "install-search", it's all dpkg, apt, pacman, rpm, emerge etc. There is no reason that install can't be an alias to [whatever package manager is relevant] --install [package name], and when [package name] fails run a general search and suggest potentially correct [package name]s

This is technically what PackageKit is/was supposed to achieve, and does so with a GUI. But there's no CLI front-end. Frankly, I don't think there will be. Flatpak is increasing in popularity and I think a lot of common software bundles will eventually move to FlatHub. 1st party software packages will remain in place, but I think in the long run they will focus more on the essentials, e.g. desktop environments, drivers, etc, and server side software which can benefit far more from dynamic linking of libraries at known system location.

 

I might be wrong, but I think things are headed in that direction and if a vendor wants to guarantee their software runs cross-distro, then Flatpak would be the way to go.

 

On 5/21/2025 at 11:23 PM, Ihavesmallpp said:

I did try fedora 42. that sucked, Wifi after 1 reboot did not work i found no fix online.

That's unfortunate, but if I were to guess it must have been a temporary quirk either with an upstream package or locally. This is not excusing the issue, just to say that Intel wireless NICs have some of the most solid drivers ever regardless of distro, and that includes Fedora. Fedora is a bit more nuanced of a distro in that it de facto sits somewhere between a regular release and a rolling distro, in that major releases are roughly every 6 months but there are minor updates to packages and the kernel in-between releases. This can sometimes, albeit rarely, lead to a temporary quirk like this which is usually resolved rather quickly.

[Ha-Satan]

Maybe it's just something wrong with my computer, but I personally find the Mint software manager to be quite poor. It runs badly and is a pretty clunky interface.

 

I'd honestly recommend even novice users to just use apt as 'apt search' and 'apt install' really aren't any more difficult than just using the software manager.

[Ihavesmallpp]

19 hours ago, Ha-Satan said:

Maybe it's just something wrong with my computer, but I personally find the Mint software manager to be quite poor. It runs badly and is a pretty clunky interface.

 

I'd honestly recommend even novice users to just use apt as 'apt search' and 'apt install' really aren't any more difficult than just using the software manager.

yea its a bit laggy and not every time it finds the software. even though when i type sudo flatpak install. or sudo apt search. But if it works its pretty good.