BSOD need some help

[MewMew]

Been happing for awhile. Just fed up of this system crashing and want some explanation.

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is the most common error. Thank you.

 

DMP files

(Perfmon doesn't want to finish scanning after 60 seconds and just hangs, so I cannot provide that file. I can do this in perfmon settings however, if you just need a screenshot and don't need to look at the entire chart / just show me where to take a screenshot.)

 

System

• OS - w11
• x64 
• What OS was originally installed on the system? Don't remember, most likely w10
• Is the OS an OEM version (came pre-installed on system) or full retail version (YOU purchased it from a retailer)? Purchased media
• Age of system (hardware) 3-4 years
• Age of OS installation - have you re-installed the OS? Several times.
• CPU model Ryzen 3600
• Video Card model GTX 1660 Super
• MotherBoard - (if NOT a laptop) B450-A PRO MAX
• Power Supply - brand & wattage (if laptop, skip this) Seasonic 650w
• System Manufacturer N/A
• Exact model number (if OEM or laptop) N/A
• Laptop or Desktop? Desktop

[Bjoolz]

This looks like a memory issue from the dump files. Memory doesn't have to mean RAM, but it's usually the main suspect. Windows puts low priority data from RAM into the page file and loads it back in when needed so storage can look like memory (And memory can look like storage). The memory controller is in the CPU and if this fails it will just look like memory.

 

When it's storage about half of the dumps will usually blame storage or storage drivers, which I don't see here, so it's likely not storage.

 

If anything is overclocked or undervolted, remove it. If you use DOCP at higher than 3200MT/s (2933 with four sticks), disable it for testing. 

 

To test the RAM, use the machine normally with one stick at a time. If just one of the sticks cause crashes, faulty stick. If it crashes with either stick it's probably the CPU. Memory testers miss faulty RAM fairly often with DDR4 and newer so I don't trust them.

 

Also adding that Zen 2 CPUs (3000 series, 4000 series and some laptop 5000 series CPUs) have an architectural quirk where a faulty CPU will almost always look like memory in the dump files. No idea why. 

[MewMew]

edited

 

This has been an almost yearly endeavor with this stupid machine. I've done everything including testing ram with diagnostics, memtest86 even going out and buying more ram to test incase it was the slots. In addition checking each slot and each stick. Nothing - ram looks fine.

XMP is only clocked to 3200, as it can't go any higher on this board, two sticks of 16gb. It will still crash when at base speed (XMP turned off).

I don't know if anything else is overclocked, most likely not, I don't see any OC in the BIOS.

I know this CPU has a baseclock of 3.60 but it tends to run at over 4 sometimes I've noticed, so maybe it's just automatically boosted? Not sure. I've set parameters in regedit to check if it makes a difference locking it at 3.60 and still crashed, set it back to no difference.

It HAS to be the CPU then but the CPU is 4 years old and hasn't started to do this until January last year. Think it's just quirking out randomly? Might just build him a new PC altogether.

[MewMew]

I forgot to mention this PC's seasonic psu has been buzzing and/or 'motoring' for awhile.

It's a PSU that has a fan switch on it so the fan doesn't always run - I don't think it's loose fan bearings.

He only brought it up to me now and yea it's bad. So this whole thing could be a power issue TO the CPU or the cpu is not getting enough power. That would explain the hardware element of these bsods.

Replacing the PSU by next week and we'll see what happens. 

[Bjoolz]

On 10/19/2024 at 4:50 AM, MewMew said:

It HAS to be the CPU then but the CPU is 4 years old and hasn't started to do this until January last year. Think it's just quirking out randomly? Might just build him a new PC altogether.

I mean, that's how electronics fail. They work until they don't. 

[MewMew]

I'm not saying they don't fail I'm just surprised if this is the issue it only lasted this long.

Anyway replacing PSU this week let's see what happens 

[MewMew]

After a new PSU and GPU problem still persists. Confirmed to not be dirty power issue.

Sometimes it freezes and reboots with no screen change and sometimes it gives a myriad of BSOD errors.

Noticed some weird errors in event viewer, tweaking registry memory management and adding a maximum pagepool to see what happens.

 

2 Days later no crashing so far.

I think making an unlimited pagepool fixed the CPU memory issue. Going to monitor it from here. 

 

4 Days later

Looks like this solved the problem!