PC upgrade recommendations

[M0nsterYoshi]

Budget (including currency): No limit but the cheaper the better

Country: Luxembourg

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Android Studio, Stable diffusion (Automatic1111), Visual Studio Professional, UE5 , AAA games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rF8qVW

 

Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with choosing components to upgrade my PC.
I built it around 2012 following a Toms Hardware guide and since only upgraded the CPU, GPU and added some RAM and Storage.

Some things I have in mind are:

1. Graphics Card
I recently got into AI image generation and want to upgrade to a graphics card with more VRAM and thought about buying a RTX4080 16GB, I'm unsure whether or not there are cheaper/better options, but if so they are welcome!

2. Motherboard

Since my Asus PRIME B350-PLUS is quite old and since I still have my old CPU (AMD Ryzen 5 1600) and GPU (GTX 1070), I thought about upgrading the MoBo in my current PC and to build a second PC with the old one to use as a NAS/host game servers etc. . Preferably with multiple M.2 Slots.

3.CPU

I want to get a faster CPU preferably with more cores too as I'm afraid it'll bottleneck my system down the line. Since I get a new Motherboard I might as well jump platform if it's worth it. So either Intel or AMD.

4.PSU

My current 650W PSU might not suffice anymore if I get a GPU upgrade so some recommendations for a new one would be appreciated.

 

5.RAM

I don't know if my old RAM sticks are still good speed or not, so maybe I should change those too? Maybe even DDR5 if those are worth it by now.

 

Sorry if this is asking a lot, I'm an Software Engineer but know pretty much nothing about hardware so any help is appreciated!  

 

[DoctorNick]

20 minutes ago, M0nsterYoshi said:

Budget (including currency): No limit but the cheaper the better

Country: Luxembourg

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Android Studio, Stable diffusion (Automatic1111), Visual Studio Professional, UE5 , AAA games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rF8qVW

 

Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with choosing components to upgrade my PC.
I built it around 2012 following a Toms and since only upgraded the CPU, GPU and added some RAM and Storage.

Some things I have in mind are:

1. Graphics Card
I recently got into AI image generation and want to upgrade to a graphics card with more VRAM and thought about buying a RTX4080 16GB, I'm unsure whether or not there are cheaper/better options, but if so they are welcome!

2. Motherboard

Since my Asus PRIME B350-PLUS is quite old and since I still have my old CPU (AMD Ryzen 5 1600) and GPU (GTX 1070), I thought about upgrading the MoBo in my current PC and to build a second PC with the old one to use as a NAS/host game servers etc. . Preferably with multiple M.2 Slots.

3.CPU

I want to get a faster CPU preferably with more cores too as I'm afraid it'll bottleneck my system down the line. Since I get a new Motherboard I might as well jump platform if it's worth it. So either Intel or AMD.

4.PSU

My current 650W PSU might not suffice anymore if I get a GPU upgrade so some recommendations for a new one would be appreciated.

 

5.RAM

I don't know if my old RAM sticks are still good speed or not, so maybe I should change those too? Maybe even DDR5 if those are worth it by now.

 

Sorry if this is asking a lot, I'm an Software Engineer but know pretty much nothing about hardware so any help is appreciated!  

 

With a BIOS update you can get support for 5000 series Ryzen, so that would be the cheapest choice, then just get more ram if you need it. And then get a RTX gpu of your liking. The faster the better. Most of what you need will be GPU performance after all. 

[M0nsterYoshi]

12 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

With a BIOS update you can get support for 5000 series Ryzen, so that would be the cheapest choice, then just get more ram if you need it. And then get a RTX gpu of your liking. The faster the better. Most of what you need will be GPU performance after all. 

Thanks for your recommendation.

I'd still like getting a Motherboard upgrade as my Asus PRIME B350-PLUS is old and I'd like to use it to build a 2nd PC.
Price isn't an issue, I'd prefer the best price/performance ratio while still being pretty high-end rather than just the cheapest option.

[DoctorNick]

22 minutes ago, M0nsterYoshi said:

Thanks for your recommendation.

I'd still like getting a Motherboard upgrade as my Asus PRIME B350-PLUS is old and I'd like to use it to build a 2nd PC.
Price isn't an issue, I'd prefer the best price/performance ratio while still being pretty high-end rather than just the cheapest option.

I would still go AMD. B550 if you want to save money, B650 if you want AM5 and DDR5

[venomtail]

Meh, motherboard is old enough that it might struggle with newer CPU's. Might as well upgrade.

 

Only think I don't know for recommendations is your workload. In theory Intel has more cores but many aren't full fat cores. Depending on the workload specifically AMD might even take the lead with their "full" status.

As of 30/01/24 AMD has better upgradability, whilst more Intel boards usually have more features that industry specialists might need, not sure if you're one of them.

[M0nsterYoshi]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

As of 30/01/24 AMD has better upgradability, whilst more Intel boards usually have more features that industry specialists might need, not sure if you're one of them.

I am no industry specialist, so I think I'll stick to AMD

I threw together a list of components, but I'm still not sure about DDR5 since I often hear that DDR5 RAM isn't stable... is this old news or does it still apply?

[M0nsterYoshi]

Here's what I came up with:

Motherboard: ASUS Prime B650-PLUS for 180.90€

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X  for 225.97€ RAM: Crucial Pro DDR5 RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 5600MHz for 114.97€

GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 12GB GDDR6X OC Edition for 688.22€ Case: Cooler Master Qube 500 Flatpack for 96.89€ Storage (OS) :Crucial T700 1TB Gen5 NVMe M.2 SSD for 194.99€ Storage: Samsung 870 EVO SATA III 2,5 Zoll SSD, 4 TB for 288.53€

 

For a subtotal of 1,790.47€

 

Now I have some questions remaining:

1. What wattage does that system need / what PSU should I get?
2. Is this a good build or is there a serious potential for a bottleneck?
3. Are all those parts compatible?
4. Is DDR5 RAM reliable?

Thanks for the help!

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€182.95 @ Megekko) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler  (€35.98 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€75.21 @ Azerty) 
Storage: SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€33.95 @ Megekko) 
Storage: SanDisk X400 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive 
Storage: Crucial BX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€69.41 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Video Card 
Case: NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Tones.be) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit 
Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spark RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse 
Total: €507.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-30 14:48 CET+0100

[M0nsterYoshi]

11 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€182.95 @ Megekko) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler  (€35.98 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€75.21 @ Azerty) 
Storage: SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€33.95 @ Megekko) 
Storage: SanDisk X400 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive 
Storage: Crucial BX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€69.41 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Video Card 
Case: NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Tones.be) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit 
Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spark RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard 
Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse 
Total: €507.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-30 14:48 CET+0100

The main point for the upgrade is the motherboard for PCIE Gen4 support and the GPU to have more VRAM. Thank you for your suggestion though.  

[venomtail]

1 hour ago, M0nsterYoshi said:

Here's what I came up with:

Motherboard: ASUS Prime B650-PLUS for 180.90€

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X  for 225.97€ RAM: Crucial Pro DDR5 RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 5600MHz for 114.97€

GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 12GB GDDR6X OC Edition for 688.22€ Case: Cooler Master Qube 500 Flatpack for 96.89€ Storage (OS) :Crucial T700 1TB Gen5 NVMe M.2 SSD for 194.99€ Storage: Samsung 870 EVO SATA III 2,5 Zoll SSD, 4 TB for 288.53€

 

For a subtotal of 1,790.47€

 

Now I have some questions remaining:

1. What wattage does that system need / what PSU should I get?
2. Is this a good build or is there a serious potential for a bottleneck?
3. Are all those parts compatible?
4. Is DDR5 RAM reliable?

Thanks for the help!

 

This goes all out. More CPU focused:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€387.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING FROZN A620 BLACK 78.25 CFM CPU Cooler  (€69.42 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€251.89 @ Computeruniverse) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€125.07 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: ADATA Legend 800 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€60.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Corsair MP600 CORE XT 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€229.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: KFA2 1-Click OC 2X GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  (€646.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€127.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €2014.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-30 15:37 CET+0100

 

1 hour ago, M0nsterYoshi said:

Now I have some questions remaining:

1. What wattage does that system need / what PSU should I get?
2. Is this a good build or is there a serious potential for a bottleneck?
3. Are all those parts compatible?
4. Is DDR5 RAM reliable?

Thanks for the help!

1. Wattage scales per needs. I'd say enthusiast should get at most 850W. Get one with a 12prwm cable so you don't have to use a splitter. Get a modular PSU.
2. It's ok. Won't hold up in rendering, cooking and compiling. Slow RAM. Super GPU's are coming out so non super is already outdated.
3. Aha
4. Consumer stuff is always reliable. DDR5 got flack for being unreliable due to loud overclocker minority you can't keep RAM stable to get world's nr. 1 spot. Was the same for DDR4. Of course, there's some validity to paying for something so you wanna use 100% of that thing you just paid for.