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33 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I would be shocked if that machine ever pulled over 250 watts... But I can see the GPU pulling back maybe 250 by itself, so I guess 350 in heavy rendering is plausible. But that is a pretty low wattage machine, so if you are pulling 350, you are getting ever ounce of performnace out of that thing.

I have an 850W power supply myself and I can only ever get it to pull around 480W from the wall by stress-testing both my i7 12700K @5.0 and my RTX 3060Ti with its power limit increased to 220W. @ThankGodItsFriday your computer will only ever pull as much power as it needs.

 

3 hours ago, ThankGodItsFriday said:

I don't know if my computer is running as efficiently as it should

Your computer pulling more power would make it less efficient actually

Hey guys! New guy here, although I've been casually following your vids for about a year now.

 

If you'll examine my specs on my profile, I have an 850w PSU, and through a wattage calculator (on NewEgg), I got an estimate of 700w max for all my hardware. Yet, when benchmarking or using 3D modeling software, I rarely push anywhere above 350w.

 

I don't know if my computer is running as efficiently as it should, or if that's a normal readout. Thought I'd throw this question out to you guys: Is this normal?

 

Also, I'm not sure if I posted in the right place, because I'm new here. Be patient with me LTT! 😅

The mind of a person with discernment gets knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Proverbs 18:15 CJB

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What's your system spec like? Where are you monitoring the 350w? Is this what your PC is pulling measured from the wall? That's pretty normal and the max suggested wattage for a PSU is for power spikes.For example I could be gaming with a 13900KF and a 4080 and still be pulling what appears to be under 400w from moment to moment from the wall. I could decrease that by a substantial amount by limiting my frames to 90, or 120 and by enforcing a soft power limit on my GPU and undervolt my CPU.

 

But do say what is your spec is like and what benchmakrs you've tried with what scores and such while pulling 350w.

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34 minutes ago, ThankGodItsFriday said:

Hey guys! New guy here, although I've been casually following your vids for about a year now.

 

If you'll examine my specs on my profile, I have an 850w PSU, and through a wattage calculator (on NewEgg), I got an estimate of 700w max for all my hardware. Yet, when benchmarking or using 3D modeling software, I rarely push anywhere above 350w.

 

I don't know if my computer is running as efficiently as it should, or if that's a normal readout. Thought I'd throw this question out to you guys: Is this normal?

 

Also, I'm not sure if I posted in the right place, because I'm new here. Be patient with me LTT! 😅

Very few PC's will ever actually pull 700 watts continually... especially when gaming.

 

We need to know what your specs are to tell you a more realistic number. The wattage calcualtors tell you what size of PSU you need to be able to handle transient spikes, not necesarily average load values.

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2 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

Very few PC's will ever actually pull 700 watts continually... especially when gaming.

 

We need to know what your specs are to tell you a more realistic number. The wattage calcualtors tell you what size of PSU you need to be able to handle transient spikes, not necesarily average load values.

It's all on my profile page, but TL;DR...

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System

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3400G
  • Motherboard
    MSI A320M PRO M2 V2
  • RAM
    LEXAR Ares 32GB DDR4
  • GPU
    AMD RADEON RX 6650 XT
  • Case
    DeepCool Micro-ATX with one 5.25" legacy drive bay and glass side (well decorated!)
  • Storage
    TeamGroup NVMe M.2 256GB SSD & Western Digital Blue 4TB HDD
  • PSU
    ESGAMING 850W 80 Plus Gold
  • Display(s)
    LG 2560x1080 displays - one HDR from 2021, and one from 2015
  • Cooling
    Just some fans. Nothing special.
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK71 with Red Switches
  • Mouse
    Wacom Intuos4 small tablet with pen and mouse
  • Sound
    Cheap speakers. 'Nuff said.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2

Also I use 3DMark for benchmarking graphics, and I ran their DX12 benchmark:

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The mind of a person with discernment gets knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Proverbs 18:15 CJB

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6 minutes ago, ThankGodItsFriday said:

It's all on my profile page, but TL;DR...

Also I use 3DMark for benchmarking graphics, and I ran their DX12 benchmark:

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I would be shocked if that machine ever pulled over 250 watts... But I can see the GPU pulling back maybe 250 by itself, so I guess 350 in heavy rendering is plausible. But that is a pretty low wattage machine, so if you are pulling 350, you are getting ever ounce of performnace out of that thing.

Rig: i7 13700k - - Asus Z790-P Wifi - - RTX 4080 - - 4x16GB 6000MHz - - Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVMe Boot + Main Programs - - Assorted SATA SSD's for Photo Work - - Corsair RM850x - - Sound BlasterX EA-5 - - Corsair XC8 JTC Edition - - Corsair GPU Full Cover GPU Block - - XT45 X-Flow 420 + UT60 280 rads - - EK XRES RGB PWM - - Fractal Define S2 - - Acer Predator X34 -- Logitech G502 - - Logitech G710+ - - Logitech Z5500 - - LTT Deskpad

 

Headphones/amp/dac: Schiit Lyr 3 - - Fostex TR-X00 - - Sennheiser HD 6xx

 

Homelab/ Media Server: Proxmox VE host - - 512 NVMe Samsung 980 RAID Z1 for VM's/Proxmox boot - - Xeon e5 2660 V4- - Supermicro X10SRF-i - - 128 GB ECC 2133 - - 10x4 TB WD Red RAID Z2 - - Corsair 750D - - Corsair RM650i - - Dell H310 6Gbps SAS HBA - - Intel RES2SC240 SAS Expander - - TreuNAS + many other VM’s

 

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33 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I would be shocked if that machine ever pulled over 250 watts... But I can see the GPU pulling back maybe 250 by itself, so I guess 350 in heavy rendering is plausible. But that is a pretty low wattage machine, so if you are pulling 350, you are getting ever ounce of performnace out of that thing.

I have an 850W power supply myself and I can only ever get it to pull around 480W from the wall by stress-testing both my i7 12700K @5.0 and my RTX 3060Ti with its power limit increased to 220W. @ThankGodItsFriday your computer will only ever pull as much power as it needs.

 

3 hours ago, ThankGodItsFriday said:

I don't know if my computer is running as efficiently as it should

Your computer pulling more power would make it less efficient actually

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17 minutes ago, DreamCat04 said:

I have an 850W power supply myself and I can only ever get it to pull around 480W from the wall by stress-testing both my i7 12700K @5.0 and my RTX 3060Ti with its power limit increased to 220W. @ThankGodItsFriday your computer will only ever pull as much power as it needs.

 

Your computer pulling more power would make it less efficient actually

Thanks, that makes perfect sense. I guess any frame drops or lag is due to my hardware's physical limitations, not how much wattage it can pull in. Still, I'm glad I've future-proofed my system by getting a power supply far beyond what my PC actually needs.

 

However, why would Newegg report higher wattage usage for my specs if I don't really need it? Is it inflated for more sales, or to help give you more than what I need? (IMHO, I have a hunch it's the former point, but I thought I'd throw this out there anyway.)

The mind of a person with discernment gets knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Proverbs 18:15 CJB

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