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Budget (including currency): 2500 EUR

Country: Latvia 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: modern AAA games in 4K, simple work tasks

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hi! I've been researching the parts during last few months and here's what I came up with:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/zLjsmD

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€292.00) 
CPU Cooler: Phanteks Glacier One 240 T30 Gen2 101 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€138.00) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€241.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (€125.00) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€109.00) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €117.00) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (€1102.00) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  (€130.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€159.29 @ Galaxus) 
Case Fan: Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity 61.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€84.00) 
Case Fan: Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity 61.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€84.00) 
Custom: Thermalright CPU Contact Frame for LGA 1700 Retrofit Kit, 17XX-BCF Bracket Intel12 Generation  (Purchased For €8.00) 

 

Marked all the costs accordingly to the main pc parts store of my country (since I'm able to buy everything without paying the VAT tax prices are much better than they actually are here, it's basically 21% discount).

 

Decided to go with the intel lga1700 socket since it's seems more stable and I'm not planning to upgrade in next few years. 

Still debating some parts:

- Is Phanteks Glacier One AIO reliable enough? I've been considering it between Cooler Master MasterLiquid PL240 FLUX and as I understood cooler master makes their own aio's, phanteks is using Asetek's Gen7 pump, which seems more reputable to me. I also know that something like ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II is better price/performance pick but in my opinion it's design doesn't really fit into overall ''aesthetics'' of the build.

- Should I spend a little more to get 6400 CL32 memory or 6000 CL36 is good enough?

- Would the MSI A1000G be the better power supply than Corsair RM1000e? Both are A tier but MSI has Japanese capacitors and 10 years warranty (only 7 years for corsair) 

 

Would really appreciate any advise and suggestions! 

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9 minutes ago, flavoraid said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/flavoraid/saved/Bpsdqs

That list is set to private, we can't see it

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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44 minutes ago, flavoraid said:

Decided to go with the intel lga1700 socket since it's seems more stable and I'm not planning to upgrade in next few years. 

Still debating some parts:

- Is Phanteks Glacier One AIO reliable enough? I've been considering it between Cooler Master MasterLiquid PL240 FLUX and as I understood cooler master makes their own aio's, phanteks is using Asetek's Gen7 pump, which seems more reputable to me. I also know that something like ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II is better price/performance pick but in my opinion it's design doesn't really fit into overall ''aesthetics'' of the build.

- Should I spend a little more to get 6400 CL32 memory or 6000 CL36 is good enough?

- Would the MSI A1000G be the better power supply than Corsair RM1000e? Both are A tier but MSI has Japanese capacitors and 10 years warranty (only 7 years for corsair)

Is there a reason you need an expensive Z790 motherboard?

 

If you went for a cheaper motherboard and a tower cooler, you could probably get a 7800X3D. (AMD is not less stable on CPUs, I have 3 of them atm with no issues, they are also better value IMO, also much easier to cool than intel chips)

 

I'd probably get the corsair memory, benchmarks show only minimal improvements above 6000 CL36

 

You could consider a 7900XTX instead of a 4080 to save alot of money (it has slightly better traditional rendering performance but slightly weaker ray tracing performance)

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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35 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Is there a reason you need an expensive Z790 motherboard?

 

If you went for a cheaper motherboard and a tower cooler, you could probably get a 7800X3D. (AMD is not less stable on CPUs, I have 3 of them atm with no issues, they are also better value IMO, also much easier to cool than intel chips)

 

I'd probably get the corsair memory, benchmarks show only minimal improvements above 6000 CL36

 

You could consider a 7900XTX instead of a 4080 to save alot of money (it has slightly better traditional rendering performance but slightly weaker ray tracing performance)

Went with Z790 since I wanted to get a possibility to overclock later and just because it looks nice and has decent reviews honestly. Also planning to go with vertical gpu mount and it won't fit with an air cooler
 
I'm almost sure that all AM5 issues has been already fixed with recent bios updates but I still see people here and there having memory issues or long boot times, etc and it unfortunately makes me worry a bit since it's a first build
 
Thanks for the advise tho, I definitely should ask myself if it's worth to overpay for 4080 or not 🙂  
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