Mid/High end build AMD

[onliness]

Budget (including currency): 3200 euros (+ - 200) 

Country: France

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mostly gaming

Other details :I'm planning to keep only a 2TB M.2 SSD and maybe a hard drive,  5k resolution (5120*1440), buying only from materiel.net or ldlc.com (i live in a French island next to Newfoundland, they are one the the few that delivers here)

 

 

EDIT BUILD:

CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 7900X

MB :  Asus TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI

WC : Corsair ICUE H100i Elite CAPELLIX XT - Noir

GPU :Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse

RAM : Corsair Vengeance Black - 2 x 32 Go (64 Go) - DDR5 6400 MHz - CL32

SSD : Crucial P3 Plus - 4 To

PSU : Corsair HX1000i - Platinum

 

config.bmp

 

 

Hello everyone,first excuse me for my english, my computer just died so i'm trying to build a new one, it was time for an upgrade anyway, i just have a few questions:

- Never had an AMD CPU/GPU in my life and i'm kind of "anxious" about it , are they as reliable as Intel/Nvidia ? (computer is on 24/7)

- Should i spent the 200 euros difference between the 7900 Xt and the XTX,knowing that i usually change my GPU every 2 GEN (usualy midrange the ..70 from Nvidia)  maybe i could wait 3 with this one but i would have to downgrade something else on the computer but what ?

- The motherboard, is there any difference between a 200 euros and a 800 euros one exept maybe some more PCI lanes and connectivity(don't need the wifi) ?

- will a 1000 watt PSU be enough ?

 

 

Thank you in advance

 

[CommanderAlex]

17 minutes ago, onliness said:

- Never had an AMD CPU/GPU in my life and i'm kind of "anxious" about it , are they as reliable as Intel/Nvidia ? (computer is on 24/7)

Yes, there should be no problem with reliability as AMD does quality control and guarantees their products just as much as Intel and Nvidia does. Also, keep in mind that AMD's EPYC server CPUs are a big part of major server providers competing against Intel's Xeon very competitively. 

 

17 minutes ago, onliness said:

- Should i spent the 200 euros difference between the 7900 Xt and the XTX,knowing that i usually change my GPU every 2 GEN (usualy midrange the ..70 from Nvidia)  maybe i could wait 3 with this one but i would have to downgrade something else on the computer but what ?

If you're content with saving the 200 Euros and getting a 7900XT, you may also want to look at a 6950XT instead since they perform +/-5% of each other and are generally cheaper since they are previous generation. 

 

17 minutes ago, onliness said:

- The motherboard, is there any difference between a 200 euros and a 800 euros one exept maybe some more PCI lanes and connectivity(don't need the wifi) ?

No, there isn't major differences besides extra $$ RGB mounted on the motherboard and aesthetics. There can be differences in power delivery and how many layers there are on a board that would warrant an 800 Euro board to be used for extreme overclocking with LN2. WiFi can always be substituted with a WiFi PCIe card too in the future if WiFi is not an important feature to have. 

17 minutes ago, onliness said:

- will a 1000 watt PSU be enough ?

Depending on the rest of the hardware, this should be more than necessary and an 850W unit could do. What really matters is quality for PSUs since they can kill other components if a junky one decides to die. 

 

Also, welcome to the forums!!!

[PcBeExpensive]

45 minutes ago, onliness said:

Budget (including currency): 3200 euros (+ - 200) 

Country: France

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mostly gaming

Other details :I'm planning to keep only a 2TB M.2 SSD and maybe a hard drive,  5k resolution (5120*1440), buying only from materiel.net or ldlc.com (i live in a French island next to Newfoundland, they are one the the few that delivers here)

 

 

EDIT BUILD:

CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 7900X

MB :  Asus TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI

WC : Corsair ICUE H100i Elite CAPELLIX XT - Noir

GPU :Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse

RAM : Corsair Vengeance Black - 2 x 32 Go (64 Go) - DDR5 6400 MHz - CL32

SSD : Crucial P3 Plus - 4 To

PSU : Corsair HX1000i - Platinum

 

config.bmp 516.32 kB · 2 downloads

 

 

Hello everyone,first excuse me for my english, my computer just died so i'm trying to build a new one, it was time for an upgrade anyway, i just have a few questions:

- Never had an AMD CPU/GPU in my life and i'm kind of "anxious" about it , are they as reliable as Intel/Nvidia ? (computer is on 24/7)

- Should i spent the 200 euros difference between the 7900 Xt and the XTX,knowing that i usually change my GPU every 2 GEN (usualy midrange the ..70 from Nvidia)  maybe i could wait 3 with this one but i would have to downgrade something else on the computer but what ?

- The motherboard, is there any difference between a 200 euros and a 800 euros one exept maybe some more PCI lanes and connectivity(don't need the wifi) ?

- will a 1000 watt PSU be enough ?

 

 

Thank you in advance

 

If it's mostly gaming at 5k res don't get a 7900x. A 7700x is fine. With the money saved get a 7900 XTX. An 1000w psu is fine. Motherboard wise i'm not really sure but I don't think there is a huge difference between a 200 euro one and a 800 euro one for the average gamer.

[Dedayog]

20 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

If it's mostly gaming at 5k res don't get a 7900x. A 7700x is fine. With the money saved get a 7900 XTX. An 1000w psu is fine. Motherboard wise i'm not really sure but I don't think there is a huge difference between a 200 euro one and a 800 euro one for the average gamer.

I agree with the above.  At that resolution, you want much more GPU.  Curious what you used on it before though.

 

7700x + 7900XTX is how I would go.  No need for a big dick motherboard, a decent B650 is perfect like you listed.

[brob]

1 hour ago, onliness said:

 

RAM : Corsair Vengeance Black - 2 x 32 Go (64 Go) - DDR5 6400 MHz - CL32

 

Without the part number I can't check it, but I have some doubt as to how easily you will be able to get this to work at advertised speed and timings.

 

1 hour ago, onliness said:

 

- will a 1000 watt PSU be enough ?

 

More than enough. In fact you should be considering an 850W or even 750W PSU. Sapphire recommends a minimum 750W PSU for systems with the 7900 XT Pulse.

 

1 hour ago, onliness said:

Corsair ICUE H100i Elite CAPELLIX XT - Noir

 

If you really want an AIO, consider a 280 or 360 model. You don't mention the case to be used so comments on fit are not possible.

 

Consider an air tower cooler like the AK620 (Black, Digital) or NH-D15 (chromax.black). Either is quite capable of doing a good job cooling a 7900X.

 

1 hour ago, onliness said:

 

- The motherboard, is there any difference between a 200 euros and a 800 euros one exept maybe some more PCI lanes and connectivity(don't need the wifi) ?

 

There are differences. Most notably the power distribution components (VRM) tend to get more sophisticated, robust, and better cooled as prices rise. At some point it becomes excessive for most use cases.

 

 

[SorryBella]

1 hour ago, onliness said:

(computer is on 24/7)

while I largely agreed for AMD/Nvidia if you are gaming, if this system going to most of the time sit on idle or doing light load, Intel might be a better shot for you. They completely lost it on gaming load with it slamming 220-250W in one go, but they have idle and light load wattage in spades due to AMD boost curve relying on higher idle wattage to quicken the time from base clock to boost. But really we are debating 25W difference here so your title and its reliance on CPU IPC due to various reason is more pertinent than the load wattage. GPU though? Nvidia 4000 series, RX 6950XT series draws 100W more than the 4080 and the 7000 series draw 50W more than the same GPU and that's failing to consider its issue with high refresh rate and resolution power consumption.

1 hour ago, onliness said:

The motherboard, is there any difference between a 200 euros and a 800 euros one exept maybe some more PCI lanes and connectivity(don't need the wifi) ?

AMD is stupid (in a good way) and overspec'd the CPU power delivery for AM5. You can use whatever B650 board (except few fringes) you want unless if you want to do extreme overclock with it or if you need more USB. 

1 hour ago, onliness said:

- will a 1000 watt PSU be enough ?

On the money. 850-1000W is the new 550-650W, they're the best PSU wattage in value and longevity potential right now for ATX 3.

 

Intel:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€527.90 @ LDLC) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€95.90 @ LDLC) 
Motherboard: ASRock B760M PG Riptide Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€176.89 @ LDLC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (€168.30 @ LDLC) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€136.90 @ LDLC) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1857.89 @ LDLC) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€93.90 @ LDLC) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€156.90 @ LDLC) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Silent 24.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€11.85 @ LDLC) 
Total: €3226.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-11 03:27 CEST+0200

 

AMD:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€437.90 @ LDLC) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€95.90 @ LDLC) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€226.90 @ LDLC) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€178.20 @ LDLC) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€136.90 @ LDLC) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1857.89 @ LDLC) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€93.90 @ LDLC) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€156.90 @ LDLC) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Silent 24.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€11.85 @ LDLC) 
Total: €3196.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-11 03:28 CEST+0200

[PcBeExpensive]

5 minutes ago, SorryBella said:

AMD:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€437.90 @ LDLC) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€95.90 @ LDLC) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€226.90 @ LDLC) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€178.20 @ LDLC) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€136.90 @ LDLC) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1857.89 @ LDLC) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€93.90 @ LDLC) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€156.90 @ LDLC) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 Silent 24.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€11.85 @ LDLC) 
Total: €3196.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-11 03:28 CEST+0200

Will a 7600 not be enough to support a 4090 at 5k?

[SorryBella]

2 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Will a 7600 not be enough to support a 4090 at 5k?

8/16 is good frametime booster for stock operation. If OP dont mind tweaking the snot out of it or dont open anything but games, sure. But we can afford it here, why not?

[PcBeExpensive]

1 minute ago, SorryBella said:

8/16 is good frametime booster for stock operation. If OP dont mind tweaking the snot out of it or dont open anything but games, sure. But we can afford it here, why not?

oh alright!

[PcBeExpensive]

https://www.ldlc.com/en/pc-builder/
This would be a good list