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[Excalibur.]

Budget (including currency): $2,500 ish total

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, New and upcoming games as well as older games at 1440p 120+ FPS on a a 1440p PC monitor but also 4K at 60 + on a 4K OLED TV. Mostly standard productivity, maybe some photoshop, office type programs and web browsing ect, nothing too demanding. I also plan to dual boot Windows 11 and Linux.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I'm carrying over some SATA SSD storage and Optical Drive, but I do need a 1440p (preferably 32 inch IPS) monitor as part of the budget, already listed the resolutions i plan to play at, primarily 1440p, but i do plan to try 4K on my OLED TV, just will need to figure out the best way to get a cable over to it. I would like this PC to last me at least 5 years, with the possible upgrade for a GPU down the line.

In fact i already put together a build on PCPartPicker, not set in stone, but i do want the two 2TB M.2 SSDs and the Fractal Pop Air case. the front fans might need an upgrade, so i included those as well. Any advice or build ideas are welcome.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XM4gTn

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($317.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-6 4 g Thermal Paste  ($7.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($162.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($13.42 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($13.42 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2519.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 18:15 EDT-0400

 

[PC HEROES]

48 minutes ago, Excalibur. said:

Budget (including currency): $2,500 ish total

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, New and upcoming games as well as older games at 1440p 120+ FPS on a a 1440p PC monitor but also 4K at 60 + on a 4K OLED TV. Mostly standard productivity, maybe some photoshop, office type programs and web browsing ect, nothing too demanding. I also plan to dual boot Windows 11 and Linux.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I'm carrying over some SATA SSD storage and Optical Drive, but I do need a 1440p (preferably 32 inch IPS) monitor as part of the budget, already listed the resolutions i plan to play at, primarily 1440p, but i do plan to try 4K on my OLED TV, just will need to figure out the best way to get a cable over to it. I would like this PC to last me at least 5 years, with the possible upgrade for a GPU down the line.

In fact i already put together a build on PCPartPicker, not set in stone, but i do want the two 2TB M.2 SSDs and the Fractal Pop Air case. the front fans might need an upgrade, so i included those as well. Any advice or build ideas are welcome.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XM4gTn

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($317.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-6 4 g Thermal Paste  ($7.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($162.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($13.42 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($13.42 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2519.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 18:15 EDT-0400

 

Hello, I was looking over your Build List and most of it looked really good. I did make some changes to it. They are small but essential and costs are under $2,400.

 

I replaced the CPU Cooler to a cheaper and better Brand Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB.

 

I got you better Thermal Paste, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.

 

Cheaper RGB RAM. TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB

 

I wasn't sure if you wanted the Samsung M.2 Drives, you just said that you wanted 2x 2TB M.2 Drives so I swapped them for a cheaper option but still the same Read/Write Speeds. Silicon Power XS70. Keep in mind that if you do get the Samsung Drives then you will need to update the Firmware on both of them, they have a defect that makes them Read Only.

 

Cheaper GPU that is faster than the Sapphire Pulse. PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT.

 

I also like the Fractal Design Pop Cases. I did however switch it to the RGB version that comes with 3 RGB Fans that don't need to be replaced and I also added 2 extra Fans to go inside on top on the Case. These extra Fans are also from Fractal Design and are RGB. I added a Fan Hub too so that you only need to worry about 1 or 2 Wires for Fans connected to the Motherboard, the Hub is Magnetic too.

 

I changed the Power Supply for a cheaper option but just as good and it's A-Tier Rated. Enermax REVOLUTION D.F. 2 1050 W 80+ Gold.

 

This is going to be one Killer of a Gaming PC!!!

 

I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please ask.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTmxZw

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($317.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.07 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($111.33 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Enermax REVOLUTION D.F. 2 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 12 RGB PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($23.52 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 12 RGB PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($23.52 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: Thermalright ARGB Fan HUB Controller Support 8 Groups of Fans, 8-Port 3 Pin PC Fan Controller, 5V Fan Hub, Strong Paste+Magnetic Suction, (12V 4-pin RGB is not Supported)  ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2393.33

[brob]

Given that the system is used mostly for gaming you might consider a 7800X3d.

 

The Torrent Compact offers excellent airflow in its standard configuration. It offers a front panel USB-C port. Additional fans should not be needed. 

 

The CPU cooler includes thermal compound.

 

The GPU only needs a 750W PSU.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($441.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  ($110.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2452.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 18:59 EDT-0400

[SorryBella]

4 hours ago, Excalibur. said:

Mostly standard productivity, maybe some photoshop, office type programs and web browsing ect, nothing too demanding. I also plan to dual boot Windows 11 and Linux.

If you want a frictionless experience with Linux and bang for the buck for high end gaming, then yeah AMD with 7900XTX would be it. But if you're willing to tweak about with Linux NVidia driver (which would be a challenge even after Nvidia gives their limited source code to Linux repository) that would be a viable play too for a boost in Photoshop, but that really only matter if you are doing active 100s of high resolution layers with a lot of GPU based filters. Either way 2 separate boot drive is a must, W11 LOVES to corrupt Linux bootloader under 1 partition.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($441.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($939.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MPG321QRF-QD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 175 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2407.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 22:16 EDT-0400

 

If this is going to be mostly productivity rather than gameplay, then 13700 would be a better plan. This is what it would look like with it.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($379.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($107.89 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($939.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MPG321QRF-QD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 175 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2328.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 22:19 EDT-0400

 

[Excalibur.]

4 hours ago, PC HEROES said:

Hello, I was looking over your Build List and most of it looked really good. I did make some changes to it. They are small but essential and costs are under $2,400.

 

I replaced the CPU Cooler to a cheaper and better Brand Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB.

 

I got you better Thermal Paste, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.

 

Cheaper RGB RAM. TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB

 

I wasn't sure if you wanted the Samsung M.2 Drives, you just said that you wanted 2x 2TB M.2 Drives so I swapped them for a cheaper option but still the same Read/Write Speeds. Silicon Power XS70. Keep in mind that if you do get the Samsung Drives then you will need to update the Firmware on both of them, they have a defect that makes them Read Only.

 

Cheaper GPU that is faster than the Sapphire Pulse. PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT.

 

I also like the Fractal Design Pop Cases. I did however switch it to the RGB version that comes with 3 RGB Fans that don't need to be replaced and I also added 2 extra Fans to go inside on top on the Case. These extra Fans are also from Fractal Design and are RGB. I added a Fan Hub too so that you only need to worry about 1 or 2 Wires for Fans connected to the Motherboard, the Hub is Magnetic too.

 

I changed the Power Supply for a cheaper option but just as good and it's A-Tier Rated. Enermax REVOLUTION D.F. 2 1050 W 80+ Gold.

 

This is going to be one Killer of a Gaming PC!!!

 

I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please ask.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTmxZw

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($317.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.07 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power XS70 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.07 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($111.33 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Enermax REVOLUTION D.F. 2 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 12 RGB PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($23.52 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 12 RGB PWM 56 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($23.52 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: Thermalright ARGB Fan HUB Controller Support 8 Groups of Fans, 8-Port 3 Pin PC Fan Controller, 5V Fan Hub, Strong Paste+Magnetic Suction, (12V 4-pin RGB is not Supported)  ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2393.33

Thanks, i appreciate it, but there are a couple things, One, I'm not too crazy about RGB, I kinda like the old style PCs with the standard side panel, in the location where the PC will be, the RGB would probably be more of a distraction after awhile anyway. That was in part the reason i chose the Pop Air case, that and the Optical drive bay.

The reason I was considering the fan upgrade to the case was it has 120mm fans on the front, and especially with the Radeon GPU,  i was thinking it might need bigger 140mm fans to help keep it cool plus the stock fans aren't PWM. But if the stock fans would be fine, I'd probably just use those to save some money.

I'll take a look at the Non-RGB version of that CPU cooler you mentioned, if it's better and can save me some money, I'm all for it.

Is there much of a difference on the thermal compound? i heard the Arctic MX6 was good as well.

The reason i had the PSU i had chosen was actually before i decided on AMD over Nvidia for the GPU, The Corsair PSU had the 12VHPWR connector for Nvidia GPUs, i was thinking it would be more future proof, if i decided to go Nvidia later. That and I had good luck with the Corsair PSU in my previous build too, but that Enermax looks like a quality PSU and is cheaper and would save me some money, though after looking it appears to be a B tier PSU, not an A tier, not that it's bad just wanted to clarify, I'm sure it was just an honest mistake, since there are similar PSUs on the list.

The SSDs I don't know much about those SSDs but  i want something reliable since those drives i plan for my OS's (Windows and Linux)and probably best without heatsinks included since the motherboard has 3 M.2 slots with heatsinks. Thanks for the heads up, but I typically go through and update all firmware, bios and drivers to their latest, when i setup a new machine anyway.
 

 

5 hours ago, brob said:

Given that the system is used mostly for gaming you might consider a 7800X3d.

 

The Torrent Compact offers excellent airflow in its standard configuration. It offers a front panel USB-C port. Additional fans should not be needed. 

 

The CPU cooler includes thermal compound.

 

The GPU only needs a 750W PSU.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($441.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  ($110.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2452.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 18:59 EDT-0400

Thanks i have been considering the 7800X3D and the 7700X on AM5 but some of the stability issues and all kinda scared me away, i just kinda want things to work without a lot of extra headaches, i went Intel on my previous build, i figured that would be the safest bet, and the 13600K seemed like the best bet. I also considered the 13700K but i figured it wasn't worth the extra cost and heat output for my use case I do like that AM5 has an upgrade path though and its really enticing and is something i was (and still am) seriously considering, but i keep coming back to the 13600K, i didn't upgrade my CPU for a long time so I figure by the time i need a new CPU, I'll be ready for a new build again.

The Torrent Compact is a solid case to be sure and that's a good price too, if i wasn't planning to reuse my optical drive, I'd probably go with something like that.
 

 

2 hours ago, SorryBella said:

If you want a frictionless experience with Linux and bang for the buck for high end gaming, then yeah AMD with 7900XTX would be it. But if you're willing to tweak about with Linux NVidia driver (which would be a challenge even after Nvidia gives their limited source code to Linux repository) that would be a viable play too for a boost in Photoshop, but that really only matter if you are doing active 100s of high resolution layers with a lot of GPU based filters. Either way 2 separate boot drive is a must, W11 LOVES to corrupt Linux bootloader under 1 partition.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($441.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($939.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MPG321QRF-QD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 175 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2407.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 22:16 EDT-0400

 

If this is going to be mostly productivity rather than gameplay, then 13700 would be a better plan. This is what it would look like with it.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($379.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($36.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($107.89 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($939.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MPG321QRF-QD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 175 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2328.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-20 22:19 EDT-0400

 

 

Yeah, Tell me about it, it seems Windows doesn't play well with Linux at times, even with Windows 10, Windows wanted to keep overwriting the bootloader, it was a headache because it would keep happening when Windows would update, in the end i had to put Linux and Windows not only on separate partitions, but separate drives with their bootloaders, and then boot from the drive that Linux was on and it would let me choose to boot into either Linux or Windows.

As i mentioned previously about AM5, i have been considering the 7800X3D and the 7700X on AM5 but some of the stability issues and all kinda scared me away, i just kinda want things to work without a lot of extra headaches, i went Intel on my previous build, i figured that would be the safest bet, and the 13600K seemed like the best bet. I also considered the 13700K but i figured it wasn't worth the extra cost and heat output for my use case I do like that AM5 has an upgrade path though and its really enticing and is something i was (and still am) seriously considering, but i keep coming back to the 13600K, i didn't upgrade my CPU for a long time so I figure by the time i need a new CPU, I'll be ready for a new build again.

[filpo]

3 hours ago, Excalibur. said:

As i mentioned previously about AM5, i have been considering the 7800X3D and the 7700X on AM5 but some of the stability issues and all kinda scared me away,

those issues have been fixed now

3 hours ago, Excalibur. said:

i figured that would be the safest bet, and the 13600K seemed like the best bet

at this point tho the 7800X3D is performing better than the 13700k and 13900k while being much cooler and power efficient

 

3 hours ago, Excalibur. said:

The Torrent Compact is a solid case to be sure and that's a good price too, if i wasn't planning to reuse my optical drive, I'd probably go with something like that.

if you are then get something like the fractal pop air Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (FD-C-POR1A-06) - PCPartPicker

 

Btw if you want the 13600k I'd go for this edited version of @PC HEROES build

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J9kjjZ

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-6 4 g Thermal Paste  ($7.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($244.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($939.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($110.26 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MPG321QRF-QD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 175 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2486.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-21 03:57 EDT-0400

[PC HEROES]

3 hours ago, Excalibur. said:

Thanks, i appreciate it, but there are a couple things, One, I'm not too crazy about RGB, I kinda like the old style PCs with the standard side panel, in the location where the PC will be, the RGB would probably be more of a distraction after awhile anyway. That was in part the reason i chose the Pop Air case, that and the Optical drive bay.

The reason I was considering the fan upgrade to the case was it has 120mm fans on the front, and especially with the Radeon GPU,  i was thinking it might need bigger 140mm fans to help keep it cool plus the stock fans aren't PWM. But if the stock fans would be fine, I'd probably just use those to save some money.

I'll take a look at the Non-RGB version of that CPU cooler you mentioned, if it's better and can save me some money, I'm all for it.

Is there much of a difference on the thermal compound? i heard the Arctic MX6 was good as well.

The reason i had the PSU i had chosen was actually before i decided on AMD over Nvidia for the GPU, The Corsair PSU had the 12VHPWR connector for Nvidia GPUs, i was thinking it would be more future proof, if i decided to go Nvidia later. That and I had good luck with the Corsair PSU in my previous build too, but that Enermax looks like a quality PSU and is cheaper and would save me some money, though after looking it appears to be a B tier PSU, not an A tier, not that it's bad just wanted to clarify, I'm sure it was just an honest mistake, since there are similar PSUs on the list.

The SSDs I don't know much about those SSDs but  i want something reliable since those drives i plan for my OS's (Windows and Linux)and probably best without heatsinks included since the motherboard has 3 M.2 slots with heatsinks. Thanks for the heads up, but I typically go through and update all firmware, bios and drivers to their latest, when i setup a new machine anyway.
 

 

Thanks i have been considering the 7800X3D and the 7700X on AM5 but some of the stability issues and all kinda scared me away, i just kinda want things to work without a lot of extra headaches, i went Intel on my previous build, i figured that would be the safest bet, and the 13600K seemed like the best bet. I also considered the 13700K but i figured it wasn't worth the extra cost and heat output for my use case I do like that AM5 has an upgrade path though and its really enticing and is something i was (and still am) seriously considering, but i keep coming back to the 13600K, i didn't upgrade my CPU for a long time so I figure by the time i need a new CPU, I'll be ready for a new build again.

The Torrent Compact is a solid case to be sure and that's a good price too, if i wasn't planning to reuse my optical drive, I'd probably go with something like that.
 

 

 

Yeah, Tell me about it, it seems Windows doesn't play well with Linux at times, even with Windows 10, Windows wanted to keep overwriting the bootloader, it was a headache because it would keep happening when Windows would update, in the end i had to put Linux and Windows not only on separate partitions, but separate drives with their bootloaders, and then boot from the drive that Linux was on and it would let me choose to boot into either Linux or Windows.

As i mentioned previously about AM5, i have been considering the 7800X3D and the 7700X on AM5 but some of the stability issues and all kinda scared me away, i just kinda want things to work without a lot of extra headaches, i went Intel on my previous build, i figured that would be the safest bet, and the 13600K seemed like the best bet. I also considered the 13700K but i figured it wasn't worth the extra cost and heat output for my use case I do like that AM5 has an upgrade path though and its really enticing and is something i was (and still am) seriously considering, but i keep coming back to the 13600K, i didn't upgrade my CPU for a long time so I figure by the time i need a new CPU, I'll be ready for a new build again.

RGB can always be turned off with software. I only added it because that's what 95% of people seem to want these days.

 

In a PC Case of that size 120mm Fans will do more than fine especially if you add more which I did.

 

Thermal Grizzly Paste is much better than Arctic MX6. TG is pretty much the best right now without going super industrial.

 

The PSU was A-Tier about 6 months ago. You can always get a Thermaltake Toughpower, they come with the new 16-Pin Cable for 40 Series RTX Cards.

 

You can go with the Samsung M.2 Drives if you want but for the same Speeds you can go with the Silicon Power ones and save a total of $60 that could be used for something much more important like a GPU upgrade to the 7900XTX.

 

I made a updated list that took out all the RGB. I put in all version of parts without the RGB. I replaced all the Fans including the ones that come with the case for all Black Be Quiet Fans, 2 in the Front, 2 in the Top, and 1 in the Rear. At only $11 per Fan, it's a bargain for such a good Brand.

 

I changed back to the Samsung Drives and I added a Corsair Shift PSU that has the Cables on the side of the PSU not in the front. I figured this would be better see as you are using a Optical Drive on the bottom on the Case and will need as much room as you can.

 

I still have the Fan Hub there too if you want.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3dpryK

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($317.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($45.90 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ B&H)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: Thermalright ARGB Fan HUB Controller Support 8 Groups of Fans, 8-Port 3 Pin PC Fan Controller, 5V Fan Hub, Strong Paste+Magnetic Suction, (12V 4-pin RGB is not Supported)  ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: Corsair RM1000x Shift Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - Modular Side Interface - ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 Compliant - Zero RPM Fan Mode - 105°C-Rated Capacitors - 80 Plus Gold Efficiency - Black  ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2497.29

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, PC HEROES said:

RGB can always be turned off with software. I only added it because that's what 95% of people seem to want these days.

 

In a PC Case of that size 120mm Fans will do more than fine especially if you add more which I did.

 

Thermal Grizzly Paste is much better than Arctic MX6. TG is pretty much the best right now without going super industrial.

 

The PSU was A-Tier about 6 months ago. You can always get a Thermaltake Toughpower, they come with the new 16-Pin Cable for 40 Series RTX Cards.

 

You can go with the Samsung M.2 Drives if you want but for the same Speeds you can go with the Silicon Power ones and save a total of $60 that could be used for something much more important like a GPU upgrade to the 7900XTX.

 

I made a updated list that took out all the RGB. I put in all version of parts without the RGB. I replaced all the Fans including the ones that come with the case for all Black Be Quiet Fans, 2 in the Front, 2 in the Top, and 1 in the Rear. At only $11 per Fan, it's a bargain for such a good Brand.

 

I changed back to the Samsung Drives and I added a Corsair Shift PSU that has the Cables on the side of the PSU not in the front. I figured this would be better see as you are using a Optical Drive on the bottom on the Case and will need as much room as you can.

 

I still have the Fan Hub there too if you want.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3dpryK

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($317.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($45.90 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($749.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ B&H)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 32GP850-B 32.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: Thermalright ARGB Fan HUB Controller Support 8 Groups of Fans, 8-Port 3 Pin PC Fan Controller, 5V Fan Hub, Strong Paste+Magnetic Suction, (12V 4-pin RGB is not Supported)  ($9.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: Corsair RM1000x Shift Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - Modular Side Interface - ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 Compliant - Zero RPM Fan Mode - 105°C-Rated Capacitors - 80 Plus Gold Efficiency - Black  ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2497.29

Instead of all those fans why don't we put a 7900 xtx in here?

[PC HEROES]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

Instead of all those fans why don't we put a 7900 xtx in here?

Because the budget doesn't allow it. There is a $200 difference between the 7900XT & XTX. The price of the build is already at $2,497.00. If you took out the Fans then it only frees up about $55, where's the extra $150 coming from?

 

The OP is pretty set on what they want.

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, PC HEROES said:

Because the budget doesn't allow it. There is a $200 difference between the 7900XT & XTX. The price of the build is already at $2,497.00. If you took out the Fans then it only frees up about $55, where's the extra $150 coming from?

 

The OP is pretty set on what they want.

It most definitely does allow it

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J9kjjZ

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($312.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-6 4 g Thermal Paste  ($7.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($244.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($939.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($110.26 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MPG321QRF-QD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 175 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2486.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-21 03:57 EDT-0400

[Excalibur.]

I've made some changes to my potential build, based on some of the comments here, and i also took one of the m.2 drives down to a cheaper 1 TB since it will be the drive i use for Linux and i can get by with a smaller drive there. i am wondering if it would be better to just move up my budget just a bit, and get a 4K monitor, since there were some mentions of getting the 7900 XTX over to XT or would i be better served to stay at 1440p with my monitor?

Something like this for roughly $300 more.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xf43cb

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($317.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($45.90 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  ($8.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($259.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($949.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($162.25 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 94.2 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($12.90 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 94.2 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($12.90 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Gigabyte M32U 31.5" 3840 x 2160 144 Hz Monitor  ($679.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2804.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-24 15:00 EDT-0400