Gpu stuttering like crazy

[Atef Ahmed]

Hello guys,
I recently got a Rx 5600 XT 6 GB. And it has been stuttering like crazy. The fps isn't stable and the utilization is also very unstable. 

The games I ran were FH4, RE4 remake & Spider-Man Remastered. They all had the utilization go from 99% to 0% and everything in between. FPS was going from 60-20. 

Can anyone help me troubleshoot it? 

My current system is : CPU: Intel Pentium Gold G5400 

                                     GPU: Gigabyte RX5600 XT 6GB

                                    Ram: 12 GB (4+8)

                                    Motherboard: Gigabyte H310M S2P 

                                    PSU: Thermaltake SMART BM2 550W 

                                    Storage: Toshiba HDD 1TB 

[Dukesilver27-]

Well, from specs alone I can see that the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU, RAM isn't ideal, and no SSD.

Speaking as someone who had the same CPU a while back, with G5400 I would only go as high as GTX 1060, which is about 40% slower than 5600XT.

RAM isn't exactly running in dual channel, which is a huge performance hole, and no SSD for some games are also a big no no.

[Atef Ahmed]

5 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Well, from specs alone I can see that the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU, RAM isn't ideal, and no SSD.

Speaking as someone who had the same CPU a while back, with G5400 I would only go as high as GTX 1060, which is about 40% slower than 5600XT.

RAM isn't exactly running in dual channel, which is a huge performance hole, and no SSD for some games are also a big no no.

It could be bottlenecking, but the utilization to go from 99% to 0% is a bit weird, no? I would be happy if it gave me a constant fps with 30. Idm 30 fps but it is just all over the place. I am so confused. Could it be anything other than the CPU bottlenecking? 

[Dukesilver27-]

IMO, RAM is the biggest suspect here. It's not running in dual channel since the capacity is different, most likely different speed and latency too.

Stuttering could be caused by a lot of things.

[Neutraliz]

It's a pretty loud & clear CPU bottleneck. I don't think ram will play that much of a big role here. 

[Atef Ahmed]

4 minutes ago, Neutraliz said:

It's a pretty loud & clear CPU bottleneck. I don't think ram will play that much of a big role here. 

I thought bottlenecking would at least keep the GPU utilization to a certain percentage. Like 60%. But it is just not. It is just fluctuating. That's what I am looking for. I bought the GPU 2nd hand. I would like to know if there is something wrong with it. I am worried abt that fact. 

 

[jaslion]

7 minutes ago, Atef Ahmed said:

I thought bottlenecking would at least keep the GPU utilization to a certain percentage. Like 60%

No.

 

Lets use some numbers (they mean nothing just values)

 

Say your cpu can crunch 100f a second.

 

1 frame asks for 140f.

 

So your gpu now needs to wait longer for your cpu to finish causing a stutter.

 

Games are erratic so 1 frame could be 60f whilst another 243f. Since the cpu can at max do 100f the first frame gets done in time no problem but the other takes far longer.

 

Now in your case you are playing games made for 8 threads+. You have 4.

 

So you can see it as getting 8 requests to process but every worker needs to do 2 at the same time. Which is just not possible. So they have to hope that the requests arent too heavy. Which they will be so again stuttering

 

Your gpu is not an issue here. Its the cpu.

 

Keep in mind that ALL the games you have are expecting a 8 thread cpu as the bare minimum. Yours has 4. It literally cannot run the needed processes in parallel so the game needs to wait till some resource gets free somewhere else.

 

Anotherpoint is ram. Since its a single stick you can lose up to 50% performance depending on the game.

 

 

 

[Atef Ahmed]

8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

No.

 

Lets use some numbers (they mean nothing just values)

 

Say your cpu can crunch 100f a second.

 

1 frame asks for 140f.

 

So your gpu now needs to wait longer for your cpu to finish causing a stutter.

 

Games are erratic so 1 frame could be 60f whilst another 243f. Since the cpu can at max do 100f the first frame gets done in time no problem but the other takes far longer.

 

Now in your case you are playing games made for 8 threads+. You have 4.

 

So you can see it as getting 8 requests to process but every worker needs to do 2 at the same time. Which is just not possible. So they have to hope that the requests arent too heavy. Which they will be so again stuttering

 

Your gpu is not an issue here. Its the cpu.

 

Keep in mind that ALL the games you have are expecting a 8 thread cpu as the bare minimum. Yours has 4. It literally cannot run the needed processes in parallel so the game needs to wait till some resource gets free somewhere else.

 

Anotherpoint is ram. Since its a single stick you can lose up to 50% performance depending on the game.

 

 

 

I see. So, if I change my CPU, the stutters will be gone? 

[jaslion]

3 minutes ago, Atef Ahmed said:

I see. So, if I change my CPU, the stutters will be gone? 

Depending on the cpu AND you get a 2nd stick of ram so its no longer in single channel yes.

 

However there are only 2 cpu's worthwhile on your socket and both are far too expensive used for what they can still do. The i7 8700(k) and i9 9900(k) both need a good cooler too. The 8700 is abput 100$ and its super easyto get a faster new cpu for that money. Its also kinda slow meh days.

 

The 9900k is far better but also double the costs if not more, needs a beefy cooler and for that money you can buy a better cpu + motherboard (a ryzen 5600 is a faster gaming cpu)

 

 

[Atef Ahmed]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Depending on the cpu AND you get a 2nd stick of ram so its no longer in single channel yes.

 

However there are only 2 cpu's worthwhile on your socket and both are far too expensive used for what they can still do. The i7 8700(k) and i9 9900(k) both need a good cooler too. The 8700 is abput 100$ and its super easyto get a faster new cpu for that money. Its also kinda slow meh days.

 

The 9900k is far better but also double the costs if not more, needs a beefy cooler and for that money you can buy a better cpu + motherboard (a ryzen 5600 is a faster gaming cpu)

 

 

I see. Ig I will have to go full team red now. The next upgrade should be at a Ryzen 5 5600. And that will fix the issue, yh?

 

[jaslion]

36 minutes ago, Atef Ahmed said:

I see. Ig I will have to go full team red now. The next upgrade should be at a Ryzen 5 5600. And that will fix the issue, yh?

 

Yup basically.

 

However you will NEED dual channel ram. Any modern cpu falls apart without having at least 2 sticks of ram in a system.