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Any recommendations for an nvme enclosure? My current laptop is about 3 years old, and I am looking for external storage for games. I want to get an external nvme plus enclosure, because I plan on building a desktop computer several years later.

 

The Samsung T7 2tb external ssd is $160 on amazon, so I would like the drive and enclosure to be around that price. I will be waiting for amazon prime day sale, so hopefully the drives go down in price.

 

My laptop only supports 10Gbps for external enclosures, or 1250 megabytes / second.

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I don't know where you're from, but AliExpress has some great deals on M.2/NVMe enclosures for about 15-20$. Would recommend using a budget but proper SSD itself from a reputable brand. Just make sure to be on a lookout to make sure the key type is compactible between both.

 

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32 minutes ago, Nooblite said:

My current laptop is about 3 years old

Can I ask exactly what model of laptop you have? With many newer laptops there are spare NVMe slots and this would be quite an easy upgrade to perform.

 

32 minutes ago, Nooblite said:

Any recommendations for an nvme enclosure?

If upgrading your laptop isn't an option, I have and use this enclosure from UGreen which does the job pretty well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08DNR22Q7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

As for NVMe drives, the 2TB Crucial P3 is now a very strong value with its 5 year warrenty

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dBBG3C/crucial-p3-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3ssd8

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9 hours ago, Nooblite said:

Any recommendations for an nvme enclosure? My current laptop is about 3 years old, and I am looking for external storage for games. I want to get an external nvme plus enclosure, because I plan on building a desktop computer several years later.

 

The Samsung T7 2tb external ssd is $160 on amazon, so I would like the drive and enclosure to be around that price. I will be waiting for amazon prime day sale, so hopefully the drives go down in price.

 

My laptop only supports 10Gbps for external enclosures, or 1250 megabytes / second.

Are you sure it's $160? I've had one in my cart waiting for prices to drop and it's $117 right now. It's what I'll be picking up soonimage.png.6e58130dee00c20d31ca5b38de19e05c.png

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10 hours ago, will0hlep said:

Can I ask exactly what model of laptop you have? With many newer laptops there are spare NVMe slots and this would be quite an easy upgrade to perform.

 

If upgrading your laptop isn't an option, I have and use this enclosure from UGreen which does the job pretty well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08DNR22Q7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

As for NVMe drives, the 2TB Crucial P3 is now a very strong value with its 5 year warrenty

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dBBG3C/crucial-p3-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3ssd8

I've heard that hmb does not work inside enclosures, so you need dram, and the crucial p3 does not have dram. Will that be a problem?

 

I currently have an external seagate hdd, so this is new.

 

My laptop cannot be upgraded.

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15 minutes ago, Nooblite said:

In canada, the 2tb t7 is $160, and the T7 shield is $220.

Oh my bad, didn't realize you were in Canada

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I would avoid QLC SSD in a first place.

As if it isn't power up, the controller can’t refresh data, and it could be a problem after few months.
HBM does not work over USB ( as it’s in NVMe 1.2 spec ), but the USB to NVMe bridge in itself already do so much delay,  and performance Lost, that it’s not priority, ( but lack of dram will further hinder the SSD performance ).

 

do note to get something that have TRIM passthrough support.

   
 
 
 
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12 hours ago, will0hlep said:

If upgrading your laptop isn't an option, I have and use this enclosure from UGreen which does the job pretty well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08DNR22Q7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Can it be powered from the same data cable, or does it require a separate power adaptor or second cable for it to work?

 

This wasn't answered by questions on UK or US Amazon listings.

 

I am shocked that the more expensive Sabrent 10gbps enclosure requires a separate power supply that they don't even shown in pictures.

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7 hours ago, kokosnh said:

I would avoid QLC SSD in a first place.

As if it isn't power up, the controller can’t refresh data, and it could be a problem after few months.
HBM does not work over USB ( as it’s in NVMe 1.2 spec ), but the USB to NVMe bridge in itself already do so much delay,  and performance Lost, that it’s not priority, ( but lack of dram will further hinder the SSD performance ).

 

do note to get something that have TRIM passthrough support.

I'm looking at 2tb Crucial P3 because it is $128 cad. I might be able to get something better for prime day. Any recommendations?

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3 hours ago, Nooblite said:

I'm looking at 2tb Crucial P3 because it is $128 cad. I might be able to get something better for prime day. Any recommendations?

I personally have my eye on the Silicon Power A80 since it has a cache, whereas the P3 does not, but they have similar price at least in the US if you can get the A80. Otherwise, Silicon Power A60 is cheaper than P3 by ~$15 CAD with comparable specs and competitive TBW+warranty: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/J6ndnQ,VxfFf7,dBBG3C/

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10 hours ago, NobleGamer said:

Can it be powered from the same data cable, or does it require a separate power adaptor or second cable for it to work?

 

This wasn't answered by questions on UK or US Amazon listings.

 

I am shocked that the more expensive Sabrent 10gbps enclosure requires a separate power supply that they don't even shown in pictures.

It's a one cable solution

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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12 hours ago, Nooblite said:

I've heard that hmb does not work inside enclosures, so you need dram, and the crucial p3 does not have dram. Will that be a problem?

 

I currently have an external seagate hdd, so this is new.

 

My laptop cannot be upgraded.

Okay, I don't know what HMB is, but I used my enclosure with a Micron SN370 and a WD SN740 (both of which are 2230 form factor drives that I'm almost certain don't have Dram caches)

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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