Is this build overkill?

[Megamogusmaster]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/tGYmyK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€90.94 @ Azerty) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€43.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Tones.be) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €371.59
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I already have the cpu and I found a a second hand 6800 XT for 260€ on markeplace

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Blqckqut]

11 minutes ago, Megamogusmaster said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/tGYmyK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€90.94 @ Azerty) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€43.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Tones.be) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €371.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-20 14:27 CEST+0200

 

I already have the cpu and I found a a second hand 6800 XT for 260€ on markeplace

 

 

 

 

 

 

that gpu is going to be destroyed by the cpu

 

id say get it sicne its such a good price, but upgrade to a 5000 series down the line

 

for budget, 5700x will be just fine, but if you want the best of am4, look no further than 5800x3d

[PcBeExpensive]

22 minutes ago, Megamogusmaster said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/tGYmyK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€90.94 @ Azerty) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€43.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Tones.be) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €371.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-20 14:27 CEST+0200

 

I already have the cpu and I found a a second hand 6800 XT for 260€ on markeplace

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats a horrible list, balance is a thing. Whats your budget and we can help you out.

[Megamogusmaster]

9 minutes ago, Blqckqut said:

that gpu is going to be destroyed by the cpu

 

id say get it sicne its such a good price, but upgrade to a 5000 series down the line

 

for budget, 5700x will be just fine, but if you want the best of am4, look no further than 5800x3d

Thanks!

Isn't there something cheaper than this cpu? How do you calculate bottleneck? 

[Blqckqut]

Just now, Megamogusmaster said:

Thanks!

Isn't there something cheaper than this cpu? How do you calculate bottleneck? 

hopw do calculate bottleneck

 

6600xt and under work great with ryzen 5600

 

anything above that (6700xt and above) require at least a 5700x to run smoothly without bottlnecks

 

as for the 6950xt series and above, 5800x3d, i am running this cpu together with a 7900xtx and no issues so far

[PcBeExpensive]

1 minute ago, Megamogusmaster said:

Thanks!

Isn't there something cheaper than this cpu? How do you calculate bottleneck? 

the 5600 is a good option. Theres not really a way to calculate bottleneck, its just kinda obvious. The 2600 is old outdated and really trash while the 6800xt is still newish and is still a great card. Whats your budget??

[Megamogusmaster]

6 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Thats a horrible list, balance is a thing. Whats your budget and we can help you out.

around 600€ 

[PcBeExpensive]

Just now, Blqckqut said:

hopw do calculate bottleneck

 

6600xt and under work great with ryzen 5600

 

anything above that (6700xt and above) require at least a 5700x to run smoothly without bottlnecks

 

as for the 6950xt series and above, 5800x3d, i am running this cpu together with a 7900xtx and no issues so far

Not really? A 5600 would work fine with a 6700xt, do you understand what bottlenecks are? They don't change performance or anything. A bottleneck is when a component (usually cpu or gpu) limits another component forcing it to not perform at its best.

[PcBeExpensive]

Just now, Megamogusmaster said:

around 600€ 

Oh then you can grab a great PC for this price.

 

28 minutes ago, Megamogusmaster said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/tGYmyK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€90.94 @ Azerty) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€43.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Tones.be) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €371.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-20 14:27 CEST+0200

 

I already have the cpu and I found a a second hand 6800 XT for 260€ on markeplace

 

 

 

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€142.95 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€84.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€60.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €544.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-20 14:58 CEST+0200

Try and find a used 6700xt for cheaper but if you can't then the 6800xt is fine, a 5800x3d later down the line would be a great update. Note that AM4 soon will be a pretty dead platform.

[Blqckqut]

1 minute ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Not really? A 5600 would work fine with a 6700xt, do you understand what bottlenecks are? They don't change performance or anything. A bottleneck is when a component (usually cpu or gpu) limits another component forcing it to not perform at its best.

yea i supose it would work well with that, i had one but saw better performance on my 5700x, so i asumed its the best option for that gpu without goin balls to he walls

[Blqckqut]

Just now, PcBeExpensive said:

Oh then you can grab a great PC for this price.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€142.95 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€84.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€60.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €544.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-20 14:58 CEST+0200

Try and find a used 6700xt for cheaper but if you can't then the 6800xt is fine, a 5800x3d later down the line would be a great update. Note that AM4 soon will be a pretty dead platform.

what about a cooler?

[PcBeExpensive]

Just now, Blqckqut said:

what about a cooler?

5600 comes with a cooler.

[PcBeExpensive]

1 minute ago, Blqckqut said:

yea i supose it would work well with that, i had one but saw better performance on my 5700x, so i asumed its the best option for that gpu without goin balls to he walls

yeah the 5700x is going to give better performance but you don't need a 5700, the 5600 is a decent cpu already and should be able to support a 6700xt pretty well. A 6800xt is too much for a 5600 though.

[Megamogusmaster]

1 minute ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Oh then you can grab a great PC for this price.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€142.95 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€84.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€60.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €544.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-20 14:58 CEST+0200

Try and find a used 6700xt for cheaper but if you can't then the 6800xt is fine, a 5800x3d later down the line would be a great update. Note that AM4 soon will be a pretty dead platform.

thanks you very much dude 

[Blqckqut]

1 minute ago, PcBeExpensive said:

5600 comes with a cooler.

gotcha

[Blqckqut]

Just now, Megamogusmaster said:

thanks you very much dude 

rat cat

or downs cat

 

both have wide necc

[Megamogusmaster]

9 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Oh then you can grab a great PC for this price.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€142.95 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€84.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€60.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Total: €544.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-20 14:58 CEST+0200

Try and find a used 6700xt for cheaper but if you can't then the 6800xt is fine, a 5800x3d later down the line would be a great update. Note that AM4 soon will be a pretty dead platform.

Do you think i could replace the 5 5600 with a 5 5500 

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, Megamogusmaster said:

Do you think i could replace the 5 5600 with a 5 5500 

No not if your gonna pair it with a 6800 xt. Then your gonna get a really heavy cpu bottleneck

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/tZTpZw

 

6800xt for 260€ does seem abit cheap though so make sure its not a scam or something

 

You can resell that 2600 for 30-40€ and add to budget

 

Find a cheap used office case for the case

 

 

For optional optimizations

The psu should do fine powering the build but i would highly reccomend looking around the used market for 700-850w gold units which should be around 40-60€ used, you may be able to get cheaper units if you settle for bronze or you get a less recognized local brand thats still solid (ex silentiumpc). Make sure not to buy something over 7 years old as psus last 10-15 years for all psus not just the high quality ones (i have my 12yo dazumba 450w as proof)

 

Ryzen 5500 has a cache deficit but a very solid imc (5000+ ddr4 1:1 fclk, 4533+ dual rank) so i would highly reccomend buying some used samsung m378a1g43eb1 or hynix hma41gu6afr8n 8gb 2133 sticks and lazy overclocking to 4400mhz 18-26-26-56 1.5-1.6v vdimm (depends on how tight you want trfc to be), trfc 300/350, 1.3v vsoc, 2t cmd, everything else auto set. This can save abit of money but most importantly yeild some decent performance gains. Just pair with a 4.7-4.8ghz allcore oc to match or outright beat the 5600

 

Wraith stealth is kinda dinky so you can dumpster dive or buy a cheap lga 775 (like 2€ or something) copper core cooler and ziptie onto your cpu, its  weight isnt dangling on a tall finstack so you can still get good mounting with just zipties

[PcBeExpensive]

8 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/tZTpZw

 

6800xt for 260€ does seem abit cheap though so make sure its not a scam or something

 

You can resell that 2600 for 30-40€ and add to budget

 

Find a cheap used office case for the case

 

 

For optional optimizations

The psu should do fine powering the build but i would highly reccomend looking around the used market for 700-850w gold units which should be around 40-60€ used, you may be able to get cheaper units if you settle for bronze or you get a less recognized local brand thats still solid (ex silentiumpc). Make sure not to buy something over 7 years old as psus last 10-15 years for all psus not just the high quality ones (i have my 12yo dazumba 450w as proof)

 

Ryzen 5500 has a cache deficit but a very solid imc (5000+ ddr4 1:1 fclk, 4533+ dual rank) so i would highly reccomend buying some used samsung m378a1g43eb1 or hynix hma41gu6afr8n 8gb 2133 sticks and lazy overclocking to 4400mhz 18-26-26-56 1.5-1.6v vdimm (depends on how tight you want trfc to be), trfc 300/350, 1.3v vsoc, 2t cmd, everything else auto set. This can save abit of money but most importantly yeild some decent performance gains. Just pair with a 4.7-4.8ghz allcore oc to match or outright beat the 5600

 

Wraith stealth is kinda dinky so you can dumpster dive or buy a cheap lga 775 (like 2€ or something) copper core cooler and ziptie onto your cpu, its  weight isnt dangling on a tall finstack so you can still get good mounting with just zipties

Used power supplies are a no-no if your not experienced and know what your doing, that can easily be fatal if you don't know what your doing. The wraith stealth cooler is fine?? I don't understand where you got that?? For a cpu like a 5600 that has a tdp of like 65w that cooler is fine?

[PcBeExpensive]

8 hours ago, Megamogusmaster said:

Do you think i could replace the 5 5600 with a 5 5500 

what @filpo said, no. You could but it would be stupid. Your going to just put a heavier cpu bottleneck on and lose performance.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

11 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Used power supplies are a no-no if your not experienced and know what your doing, that can easily be fatal if you don't know what your doing. The wraith stealth cooler is fine?? I don't understand where you got that?? For a cpu like a 5600 that has a tdp of like 65w that cooler is fine?

mate i dont even know the inner workings of a psu and you are calling me experienced =/

 

used psus are absolutely fine, forgot to add if you find a good deal on one post it here to verify quality. So does your logic just mean a psu that has been used for one day will insta blow up? Smh ppl gotta stop fearmongering others and making them waste uneccesary amounts of money especially on a budget build, ALL psus last 10-15 years so anything below 7 years of age i consider ok to buy, the rule of swapping psu every 5 years is retarded baseless fearmongering considering how long psus actually last

 

If you need proof i have 3 used psus all <20$, ones already 12 years old (bought 3 years ago iirc)

 

At this rate i might as well make it my goal to start ridding the pcmr of rubbish fearmongering by diving into fire pits and making sure theyre actually safe (buying used psus, high voltages, etc.), its evident noones enough of a man to test this stuff out themselves so ill just have to be the guy that does all the trials by fire

[PcBeExpensive]

7 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

mate i dont even know the inner workings of a psu and you are calling me experienced =/

 

used psus are absolutely fine, forgot to add if you find a good deal on one post it here to verify quality. So does your logic just mean a psu that has been used for one day will insta blow up? Smh ppl gotta stop fearmongering others and making them waste uneccesary amounts of money especially on a budget build, ALL psus last 10-15 years so anything below 7 years of age i consider ok to buy, the rule of swapping psu every 5 years is retarded baseless fearmongering considering how long psus actually last

 

If you need proof i have 3 used psus all <20$, ones already 12 years old (bought 3 years ago iirc)

 

At this rate i might as well make it my goal to start ridding the pcmr of rubbish fearmongering by diving into fire pits and making sure theyre actually safe (buying used psus, high voltages, etc.), its evident noones enough of a man to test this stuff out themselves so ill just have to be the guy that does all the trials by fire

its risky, you don't know what that psu has been through. You don't know if this guy has been using a 750w on a system with a 13900k and a 4090. Also watch your language.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, PcBeExpensive said:

its risky, you don't know what that psu has been through. You don't know if this guy has been using a 750w on a system with a 13900k and a 4090. Also watch your language.

Again risk is wayyyyy overexaggerated by idiots that have never even bought a psu, i dont blame you if you fall for this shit but damn idiots gotta stop spreading nonsense misinformation when they have absolutely no experience (ex bclk oc corruption)

 

3 <20$ psus and all work fine to this day, i will keep buying used psus and i will keep rubbing the proof on everyones faces

 

Also everyone here is problably over 13 so swearing is fine anyways