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Schokio
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Hello guys,

I got no clue on what to focus if you intend to stream while gaming.
Otherwise I'd just pick parts from tier lists, and ask for adjustmens 😄

Budget: 1500€ - 1750€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:
Mainly streaming a variety of games, currently (mostly caused by current bad PC) Fall Guys and Fortnite

Other details:
Focus would be just on the PC itself. Peripherals would be taken over from the current setup. Buy date is likely asap.
1080p would be enough. 2/3 monitors in usage. Anything above 60 Hz would be good.
The classic 100€ for Windows has not to be included in the budget.
And lastly, who would have guessed otherwise, a case with side panel coupled with fancy RBG


Greetings

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2 hours ago, Schokio said:

Mainly streaming a variety of games, currently (mostly caused by current bad PC) Fall Guys and Fortnite

Streaming via Intel QSV until Twitch supports AV1, but a neck worse stream quality:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€48.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B660M-E D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€122.83 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€86.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: PowerColor RX 7900 XT 20G Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€798.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Antec AX61 ELITE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM850D 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€96.98 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1617.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-10 16:16 CEST+0200

 

or Streaming via Nvidia NVENC, superior h.264 and AV1 quality but worse gaming performance:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€48.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B660M-E D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€122.83 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€86.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€899.00 @ Alternate) 
Case: Antec AX61 ELITE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM850D 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€96.98 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1717.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-10 16:18 CEST+0200

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24 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Streaming via Intel QSV until Twitch supports AV1, but a neck worse stream quality:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€48.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B660M-E D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€122.83 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€86.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: PowerColor RX 7900 XT 20G Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€798.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Antec AX61 ELITE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM850D 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€96.98 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1617.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-10 16:16 CEST+0200

 

or Streaming via Nvidia NVENC, superior h.264 and AV1 quality but worse gaming performance:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€48.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B660M-E D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€122.83 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€86.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€899.00 @ Alternate) 
Case: Antec AX61 ELITE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM850D 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€96.98 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1717.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-10 16:18 CEST+0200

 

Hello SorryClaire,

first of all thanks for your reply.
Regarding ASUS, aren't they currently a complete no-go?

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24 minutes ago, Schokio said:

Hello SorryClaire,

first of all thanks for your reply.
Regarding ASUS, aren't they currently a complete no-go?

Their warranty issues are pretty bad on AM5 yeah but theyre currently the cheapest 10 phase VRM board with good cooling that can handle 13600K. Their Intel side is more stable in terms of BIOS bugs.

 

You also might want to keep an eye on 14600K on the horizon around this summer-fall, until we're sure that its on new platform or not, LGA1700 might not have an upgrade path beyond this.

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5 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Their warranty issues are pretty bad on AM5 yeah but theyre currently the cheapest 10 phase VRM board with good cooling that can handle 13600K. Their Intel side is more stable in terms of BIOS bugs.

 

You also might want to keep an eye on 14600K on the horizon around this summer-fall, until we're sure that its on new platform or not, LGA1700 might not have an upgrade path beyond this.

Okay, I am not really in-depth on the topic, just heard the concerns ^^

Is there any other RX card to recommend, because the provided shop is kinda a hassle to order from.
The closest I've found was a PowerColor Radeon RX 7900 XT Hellhound at 895€
Also the cooler is not available, only as an import product.

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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/ 

 

https://geizhals.de/lian-li-lancool-216-rgb-a2846935.html

Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case €109,89 

 

https://geizhals.de/msi-mpg-a750gf-750w-atx-2-4-306-7zp0b11-ce0-a2389531.html

MSI MPG A750GF 750W 80+ Gold Modular ATX Power Supply €108,94  

 

https://geizhals.de/msi-b760-gaming-plus-wifi-7d98-007r-a2962812.html

MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI €172,86 

 

https://geizhals.de/intel-core-i7-13700f-cm8071504820806-a2871158.html  

Intel Core i7-13700F €369,99  

 

https://geizhals.de/deepcool-ag620-bk-argb-r-ag620-bkanmn-g-2-a2851798.html  

DeepCool AG620 BK ARGB Dual Tower CPU Cooler €59,99  

 

https://geizhals.de/g-skill-ripjaws-s5-schwarz-dimm-kit-32gb-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5k-a2722030.html  

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 €119,55 

 

https://geizhals.de/samsung-ssd-970-evo-plus-2tb-mz-v7s2t0bw-a1972736.html  

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVME SSD €103,94 

 

https://geizhals.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4070-windforce-oc-12g-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd-a2930661.html  

GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Windforce OC 12GB Graphics Card €648,00

 

Total: €1693,16

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/   

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html   

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml    

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD#kf   

 

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31 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/ 

 

https://geizhals.de/lian-li-lancool-216-rgb-a2846935.html

Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case €109,89 

 

https://geizhals.de/msi-mpg-a750gf-750w-atx-2-4-306-7zp0b11-ce0-a2389531.html

MSI MPG A750GF 750W 80+ Gold Modular ATX Power Supply €108,94  

 

https://geizhals.de/msi-b760-gaming-plus-wifi-7d98-007r-a2962812.html

MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI €172,86 

 

https://geizhals.de/intel-core-i7-13700f-cm8071504820806-a2871158.html  

Intel Core i7-13700F €369,99  

 

https://geizhals.de/deepcool-ag620-bk-argb-r-ag620-bkanmn-g-2-a2851798.html  

DeepCool AG620 BK ARGB Dual Tower CPU Cooler €59,99  

 

https://geizhals.de/g-skill-ripjaws-s5-schwarz-dimm-kit-32gb-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5k-a2722030.html  

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 DDR5-6000 32GB (2x16GB) CL30 €119,55

 

https://geizhals.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4070-windforce-oc-12g-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd-a2930661.html  

GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Windforce OC 12GB Graphics Card €648,00

 

Total: €1416,36

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/   

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html   

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml    

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD#kf   

 

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Thanks for your reply aswell. I REALLY appreciate the effort for providing the geizhals links!

I think there a little mistake in your calculation. I am getting a total of 1583€
Although missing a storage (no worries, tier list will assist me enough :D)

The trade off in your build is a better CPU in trade off for a worse GPU?
(And the jump to DDR5)

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45 minutes ago, Schokio said:

Thanks for your reply aswell. I REALLY appreciate the effort for providing the geizhals links!

I think there a little mistake in your calculation. I am getting a total of 1583€
Although missing a storage (no worries, tier list will assist me enough :D)

The trade off in your build is a better CPU in trade off for a worse GPU?

My post has been edited (corrected) with a 2TB SSD and the correct total cost calculation ^^  You want an i7 or Ryzen 7 in order to reduce the hits you will take in frames per second while streaming.  The link to the review showing what games were used for those benchmarks is down below.  Add another 2 - 3 frames per second for the Gigabyte OC card.  

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-founders-edition/

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