Compatability check + other

[KirraZaRock]

Budget (including currency):  2500 Euro

Country: Croatia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Apex Legends, Call Of Duty MW2, War Thunder, Battlefield (V, 2042), OBS Studio, Unreal Engine 5

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
Current parts: Gigabyte H410M S2M, Intel i5 10400F @ 2,9GHz (Intel stock cooler) , Crucial 2x8 2666 MHz,  Gigabyte GTX1650 Super, 500w MS Professional PSU, Case MS ARMOR V700

Upgrade parts: Gigabyte B760 Gaming X DDR5, Intel Core i9-12900KF @ 5.2GH + Be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, Kingston Fury Beast Black, 64GB (2x32GB), DDR5 5600 MHz, CL40, Corsair RM850e, 850W, 80+ Gold, modular, Gigabyte GeForce RTX3070 Eagle OC, 8GB GDDR6, reusing case.

(Other parts Monitor Samsung 27" Odyssey 144hz, Logitech Pro C920, PS5 Controller)

Total: 2500ish euro

 

My main questions are, are these parts compatible and if there are any other good cpu coolers for the 12900kf because I don't think the Dark Rock Pro 4 will fit the case (length wise). Thanks in advance.

Edited May 26, 2023 by KirraZaRock

[adm0n]

37 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

y main questions are, are these parts compatible

The one thing I see, that is incompatible is the CPU cooler, as you noted. It is 5 mm to tall. I only found some random seller list the specs of your case though, so maybe you want to actually measure your case and check what fits in there. I'd go for the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE.

 

If you want some advice on the build in general, I'd advise you against spending all the money on the CPU/RAM and then getting a GPU with only 8 GB on VRAM. Especially if you want to use unreal engine for game dev purposes.

[Why_Me]

2 hours ago, KirraZaRock said:

Budget (including currency):  2500 Euro

Country: Croatia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Apex Legends, Call Of Duty MW2, War Thunder, Battlefield (V, 2042), OBS Studio, Unreal Engine 5

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
Current parts: Gigabyte H410M S2M, Intel i5 10400F @ 2,9GHz (Intel stock cooler) , Crucial 2x8 2666 MHz,  Gigabyte GTX1650 Super, 500w MS Professional PSU, Case MS ARMOR V700

Upgrade parts: Gigabyte B760 Gaming X DDR5, Intel Core i9-12900KF @ 5.2GH + Be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, Kingston Fury Beast Black, 64GB (2x32GB), DDR5 5600 MHz, CL40, Corsair RM850e, 850W, 80+ Gold, modular, Gigabyte GeForce RTX3070 Eagle OC, 8GB GDDR6, reusing case.

(Other parts Monitor Samsung 27" Odyssey 144hz, Logitech Pro C920, PS5 Controller)

Total: 2500ish euro

 

My main questions are, are these parts compatible and if there are any other good cpu coolers for the 12900kf because I don't think the Dark Rock Pro 4 will fit the case (length wise). Thanks in advance.

You don't want to pair that board with that unlocked i9 due to that boards 8 phase VRM design due to thermal throttling. Do you have a link to the site you will be purchasing from?

[KirraZaRock]

17 hours ago, Why_Me said:

You don't want to pair that board with that unlocked i9 due to that boards 8 phase VRM design due to thermal throttling. Do you have a link to the site you will be purchasing from?

All the things on the upgrade list is from https://www.instar-informatika.hr , also only reason I'm not buying from another EU site is because the cost of shipping and customs will exceed the 2500 euro budget (which includes the monitor, controller and webcam).

 

[KirraZaRock]

18 hours ago, adm0n said:

The one thing I see, that is incompatible is the CPU cooler, as you noted. It is 5 mm to tall. I only found some random seller list the specs of your case though, so maybe you want to actually measure your case and check what fits in there. I'd go for the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE.

 

If you want some advice on the build in general, I'd advise you against spending all the money on the CPU/RAM and then getting a GPU with only 8 GB on VRAM. Especially if you want to use unreal engine for game dev purposes.

Here's the thing about getting the whole setup outright. I've had my current pc,

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Current parts: Gigabyte H410M S2M, Intel i5 10400F @ 2,9GHz (Intel stock cooler) , Crucial 2x8 2666 MHz,  Gigabyte GTX1650 Super, 500w MS Professional PSU, Case MS ARMOR V700

for quite a while now (around 4-5 years) and the GPU is dying as well as the ram. So going all in on the cpu/ram is kind out of the question.

 

Ah also one more thing the "Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE" is not being sold on the site. or anything Thermalright.

[Why_Me]

10 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

All the things on the upgrade list is from https://www.instar-informatika.hr , also only reason I'm not buying from another EU site is because the cost of shipping and customs will exceed the 2500 euro budget (which includes the monitor, controller and webcam).

 

Try this cpu with that Gigabyte board. You can use the integrated graphics for OBS.

 

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/procesor-intel-core-i7-12700-49ghz-25mb-lga1700-bx8071512700/112063/product/ 

Intel Core i7-12700 

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134591/intel-core-i712700-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/   <--- review of that cpu.

 

[KirraZaRock]

22 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Try this cpu with that Gigabyte board. You can use the integrated graphics for OBS.

 

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/procesor-intel-core-i7-12700-49ghz-25mb-lga1700-bx8071512700/112063/product/ 

Intel Core i7-12700 

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134591/intel-core-i712700-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/   <--- review of that cpu.

 

what about the I9-12900KS? Because the extra cores would be really nice.

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by KirraZaRock

[Why_Me]

14 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

what about the I9-12900KS? Because the extra cores would be really nice.

 

If you go with the i9 then look for a board with better VRM's.

 

 

[filpo]

17 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

what about the I9-12900KS? Because the extra cores would be really nice.

 

The 12900ks is just an overclocked version of the 12900k. And the 13900k is better than both

[KirraZaRock]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

The 12900ks is just an overclocked version of the 12900k. And the 13900k is better than both

12900ks also has integrated gpu and the 13900k would be a whole lot more money than the 12900kf

 

[KirraZaRock]

3 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

If you go with the i9 then look for a board with better VRM's.

 

 

any recommendations?

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

any recommendations?

This cpu which out performs the 12900K in both productivity and gaming.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/procesor-intel-core-i7-13700f-41ghz-30mb-lga1700-bx8071513700f/150923/product/  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

And this board.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/maticna-ploca-asus-h770-pro-tuf-gaming-wifi-ddr5-intel-lga1700-wifi/154779/product/ 

 

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-h770-pro-wifi/

 

Or that i7 13700F with this board and DDR4 3600.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/maticna-ploca-msi-pro-b760-p-wifi-ddr4-intel-lga1700-wifi-bluetooth/153003/product/ 

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-WIFI-DDR4

[KirraZaRock]

2 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

This cpu which out performs the 12900K in both productivity and gaming.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/procesor-intel-core-i7-13700f-41ghz-30mb-lga1700-bx8071513700f/150923/product/  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

And this board.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/maticna-ploca-asus-h770-pro-tuf-gaming-wifi-ddr5-intel-lga1700-wifi/154779/product/ 

 

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-h770-pro-wifi/

 

Or that i7 13700F with this board and DDR4 3600.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/maticna-ploca-msi-pro-b760-p-wifi-ddr4-intel-lga1700-wifi-bluetooth/153003/product/ 

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-WIFI-DDR4

Any coolers i could get? that you recommend. since the only ones on the site are the dark rock pro 4 and a few aio's (note the DRP4 is bigger than my case i think!!!)

[filpo]

18 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

13900k would be a whole lot more money than the 12900kf

Its more by 130 bucks but you get much more for the price. Even the 13700k is better than the 12900k 

 

4 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

Any coolers i could get? that you recommend. since the only ones on the site are the dark rock pro 4 and a few aio's (note the DRP4 is bigger than my case i think!!!)

If there's a 420 rad mount get this one ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 A-RGB 68.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (ACFRE00109A) - PCPartPicker (see if you can find it in your region)

[KirraZaRock]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

Its more by 130 bucks but you get much more for the price. Even the 13700k is better than the 12900k

The 13900k is over 230 euros more than the 12900kf

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If there's a 420 rad mount get this one ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 A-RGB 68.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (ACFRE00109A) - PCPartPicker (see if you can find it in your region)

too big for my case

[filpo]

1 minute ago, KirraZaRock said:

The 13900k is over 230 euros more than the 12900kf

Then I would get the 13700k or the 12900k

[Why_Me]

8 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

Any coolers i could get? that you recommend. since the only ones on the site are the dark rock pro 4 and a few aio's (note the DRP4 is bigger than my case i think!!!)

For air cooling the DP would be the best choice from that site. If you want to size up on your case then look at the Fractal Design Pop Air or the Fractal Design Focus 2.  Whichever of those cases cost less.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/srednja-kucista/1039/?manuf=62&minPrice=-1 

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/pop/pop-air/rgb-orange-core/ 

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/rgb-black-tg-clear-tint/

 

Rear exhaust fan for the Focus 2.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/ventilator-za-kuciste-arctic-p12-120mm-pwm-crni/115116/product/

[KirraZaRock]

7 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

For air cooling the DP would be the best choice from that site. If you want to size up on your case then look at the Fractal Design Pop Air or the Fractal Design Focus 2.  Whichever of those cases cost the less.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/srednja-kucista/1039/?manuf=62&minPrice=-1 

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/pop/pop-air/rgb-orange-core/ 

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/rgb-black-tg-clear-tint/

 

Rear exhaust fan for the Focus 2.

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/ventilator-za-kuciste-arctic-p12-120mm-pwm-crni/115116/product/

My case is about the size of the Fractal ones

 

Would this cpu cooler be good?

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/hladnjak-za-procesor-be-quiet-dark-rock-slim-1x120mm-intel-lga1155-/154794/product/

Edited May 27, 2023 by KirraZaRock

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

My case is about the size of the Fractal ones

If it fits inside your case then you are good ^^

 

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/hladnjak-za-procesor-be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-1x-135mm-intel-lga170/146324/product/

Overall dimensions without mounting material (L x W x H), (mm) 121 x 136 x 163

[KirraZaRock]

4 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

If it fits inside your case then you are good ^^

 

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/hladnjak-za-procesor-be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-1x-135mm-intel-lga170/146324/product/

Overall dimensions without mounting material (L x W x H), (mm) 121 x 136 x 163

maybe not if the height it 163mm since my case overall is around 17cm maybe it would fit but scratch the glass pannel

 

how big is the Dark rock slim? with a 120mm?

[Why_Me]

2 minutes ago, KirraZaRock said:

maybe not if the height it 163mm since my case overall is around 17cm maybe it would fit but scratch the glass pannel

 

how big is the Dark rock slim? with a 120mm?

The Slim won't handle that cpu. If that site offered the Deepcool AG620 then you would have a cooler that would handle that cpu while not interfering with your side panel. 

[KirraZaRock]

3 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

The Slim won't handle that cpu. If that site offered the Deepcool AG620 then you would have a cooler that would handle that cpu while not interfering with your side panel. 

what about this one?

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/hladnjak-za-procesor-be-quiet-pure-rock-2-fx-black-1x120mm-intel-lg/154803/product/

 

or this one

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/hladnjak-za-procesor-be-quiet-dark-rock-4-1x135mm-intel-lga1150-206/117540/product/

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by KirraZaRock

[Why_Me]

1 minute ago, KirraZaRock said:

what about this one?

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/hladnjak-za-procesor-be-quiet-pure-rock-2-fx-black-1x120mm-intel-lg/154803/product/

 

The Shadow Rock 3 would be a better choice.

[KirraZaRock]

1 minute ago, Why_Me said:

The Shadow Rock 3 would be a better choice.

Okay so

https://www.instar-informatika.hr/hladnjak-za-procesor-be-quiet-shadow-rock-3-white-1x120mm-intel-lga/146323/product/

this one then

 

[KirraZaRock]

Updated PC Parts: (thermal paste is not in stock so cant add to cart) Total 2.463,70 €

  

Edited May 27, 2023 by KirraZaRock