Help with my build please!

[Hooondy]

Budget (including currency): AU$6,000 (inc. monitor)

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming (COD:MW2, Cyberpunk, BF, RDR2), Photoshop and PremierePro, General work from home computing.

Other details: Pairing with a (yet to be purchased) Acer Predator X34GS 34inch IPS QHD Curved Gaming Monitor (AU$1099) for 1440 gaming, video editing and Netflix etc.

 

New Build Design:

1 X Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX MB, X670, 4x DDR5, 3x PCI-E 4.0 x16, 4x M.2, 4x SATA3, 9x USB 3.2, HDMI 2.0, ATX, WIFI 6E, BT 5.2, 2.5GbE LAN

1 X AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (Base: xxGHz, Boost: 5.0GHz / 104MB Cache / AM5 / 8 Core / 120 Watt, No Heatsink Fan / Raphael)

1 X G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo Black 64GB (2x32GB) PC5-48000 (6000MHz) DDR5, CL32-38-38-96, 1.40V, Dual Module Kit, AMD Ready, AMD EXPO

1 X Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 Ti EAGLE OC 12G (Boost: 2625MHz), 12GB GDDR6X (21000MHz), PCI-E 4.0, 3x DisplayPort 1.4, 1x HDMI 2.1, WINDFORCE Cooling Syst

1 X be quiet PURE LOOP 2 FX 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler, Light Wings PWM Fans, Compatible with Intel: 1700 / 1200 / 2066 / 1150 / 1151 / 1155 / 2011(-3) Squar

1 X Samsung 1TB SSD, 980 PRO, M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Gen4, Read up to 7,000MB/s, Write up to 5,000MB/s, IOPS R/W up to 1,000/1,000K, 1.5M Hours MTBF, 600TBW

1 X Samsung 2TB SSD, 980 PRO, M.2 2280 NVMe PCle Gen4, Read up to 7,000MB/s, Write up to 5,100MB/s, IOPS R/W up to 1000/1000K, 1.5M Hours MTBF, 1200TBW

1 X be quiet! Dark Base 900 Black E-ATX Case, Full-Circuit Airflow System, No PSU, 3x Silent Wings 3 Fans, Relocatable Motherboard Tray

1 X be quiet Pure Power 12 M 850W Power Supply, 80PLUS Gold, Fully Modular, 120mm Fan, 2x EPS, 4x PCIE (6+2), 6x SATA, 2x Molex, DC-to-DC Conversion, LLC,

Supplier Extras:
1 X Custom System Parts Assembly 7 to 11 Parts
1 X Custom System Standard 2yr Return to Base, Parts & Labour Warranty
1 X Custom System Assembly Normal Time Frame
1 X Instapak Packaging for Shipping - Large

 

Cost: AU$4,529

 

Questions:

1. GPU: 4070Ti or 7900XT? Cost differnece is negligible.  My thoughts, Ray Tracing & DLSS vs 20Gb VRam, what am I missing to make a decision?  FYI COD performance is important to me.

2. GPU: If 4070Ti, is there any difference between GeForceRTX 4070 Ti WINDFORCE OC and the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti EAGLE OC (rev.1.0)?  At all?!

3. GPU: Should I care about Ray Tracing?  At all?!

4. GPU: Should I care about whether my monitor choice is GSync, FreeSync or ActiveSync? (Assuming RTX4070Ti choice)

5. GPU Should I care about GSync vs GSync compatible?

6. RAM: Best RAM to pair with the 7800X3D?  I've read 6000Hz CL30 is best.  But Supplier contacted me today with the following:

     "We've been checking through the chosen components and have noticed that, even though RAM capable of up to a 6000MHz frequency has been added to this order, due to how new DDR5 still is, it is unfortunately a possibility that the system will not be able to reach a stable 6000MHz memory frequency as yet with 4 sticks. That is likely to change in the near future once newer BIOS updates are released to better support higher memory frequencies. 
Please let me know if you're happy for our team to clock the memory at its highest stable frequency, or if you'd like to downgrade the RAM to possibly make a saving on its cost."

    Does he know what he's talking about? What should I do?

7. RAM:  Am I right in saying 2 x 32Gb is a better combination than 4 x 16Gb for this RAM, on this mobo, with this CPU?  If not, then what?

8. Feedback on a better choice for any of the other components are welcomed.

Sourcing my build from Scorptec Computers | Online Computer Store, Huge Range of the Best Brands, Fast Delivery, Laptops and Gaming

 

 

[Hooondy]

Sorry should add - the quote from Supplier says "4 sticks".  This is because I've ordered and paid for a custom build from different supplier to Scorptec.  Their communication has been non-existent so I'm cancelling the order in lieu of the one I've captured above.  As a matter of principal.  The orginal build had 4 16Gb sticks because they didn't have 2 x 32Gb sticks in stock of the 6000Hz CL30 variety.

[filpo]

10 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

GPU: 4070Ti or 7900XT? Cost differnece is negligible.  My thoughts, Ray Tracing & DLSS vs 20Gb VRam, what am I missing to make a decision?  FYI COD performance is important to me.

you should be able to get a 4090

 

10 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

GPU: If 4070Ti, is there any difference between GeForceRTX 4070 Ti WINDFORCE OC and the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti EAGLE OC (rev.1.0)?  At all?!

no not much, maybe a slightly higher boost on the windforce but overall no

 

11 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

GPU: Should I care about Ray Tracing?  At all?!

your decision. I don't use it but you could

 

11 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

GPU: Should I care about whether my monitor choice is GSync, FreeSync or ActiveSync? (Assuming RTX4070Ti choice)

if you worry about tearing then sure, most monitors come with g sync compatible certification so you should be alright 

 

12 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

GPU Should I care about GSync vs GSync compatible?

g sync means its officially certified whereas g sync compatible is a freesync monitor that can do g sync

 

12 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

RAM: Best RAM to pair with the 7800X3D?  I've read 6000Hz CL30 is best.  But Supplier contacted me today with the following:

     "We've been checking through the chosen components and have noticed that, even though RAM capable of up to a 6000MHz frequency has been added to this order, due to how new DDR5 still is, it is unfortunately a possibility that the system will not be able to reach a stable 6000MHz memory frequency as yet with 4 sticks. That is likely to change in the near future once newer BIOS updates are released to better support higher memory frequencies. 
Please let me know if you're happy for our team to clock the memory at its highest stable frequency, or if you'd like to downgrade the RAM to possibly make a saving on its cost."

    Does he know what he's talking about? What should I do?

tbh it sounds like bullshit. I would go for 6000 CL30 and if it doesn't work then raise the subtimings to cl32

 

13 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

RAM:  Am I right in saying 2 x 32Gb is a better combination than 4 x 16Gb for this RAM, on this mobo, with this CPU?  If not, then what?

yes your right, better for compatibility

[Hooondy]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

you should be able to get a 4090

A 4090 would be out of my budget (at least AU$1500 more and upwards) so out of my budget unfortunately :(.

 

6 minutes ago, filpo said:

no not much, maybe a slightly higher boost on the windforce but overall no

Ok thanks.

 

6 minutes ago, filpo said:

your decision. I don't use it but you could

Ok.  Since posting I read a bit more about it.  I considered it an input to the GPU choice but I tend to agree with your sentiment now.  It could actually push me towards the 7900XT because test results for COD are more favourable.

 

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

if you worry about tearing then sure, most monitors come with g sync compatible certification so you should be alright 

Ok thanks

 

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

g sync means its officially certified whereas g sync compatible is a freesync monitor that can do g sync

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

 

9 minutes ago, filpo said:

tbh it sounds like bullshit. I would go for 6000 CL30 and if it doesn't work then raise the subtimings to cl32

Yeah I thought so too.  I'm not an overclocker though, is it something I can do through a gui interface or is it a more complex change (to the CL)?

 

10 minutes ago, filpo said:

yes your right, better for compatibility

Great, thanks.

 

Thanks for taking the time to offer me your insights, they're much appreciated!

[filpo]

31 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

is it something I can do through a gui interface or is it a more complex change (to the CL)?

in the bios

 

31 minutes ago, Hooondy said:

A 4090 would be out of my budget (at least AU$1500 more and upwards) so out of my budget unfortunately :(.

if you go for this build it won't be 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pVkhW4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($730.00 @ Centre Com) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($97.91 @ Amazon Australia) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($323.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($244.08 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($143.29 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: Inno3D iChill X3 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($2669.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 55 MESH ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($289.00 @ Centre Com) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MPG321UR-QD 32.0" 3840 x 2160 144 Hz Monitor  ($1339.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Total: $5894.28
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