Upcoming First Time Build

[SooperValar]

1. Budget & Location

USA, 3-3.5k

2. Aim

Primarily Gaming, and other generalized computer nonsense.

3. Monitors

Plan to use at least 2 if not 3 monitors.  Buying one that will be 1440p, others will only be 1080 as that's all I have.  Eventually will upgrade to at least a primary monitor that can do 4k.

4. Peripherals

Coming from using a laptop, so i will be buying a monitor and keyboard.  Already have a mouse that works well for me.  Will be buying windows as well.

5. Why are you upgrading?

First build, finally after years of working my ass off and getting through life im finally at the point that i can afford to build a pc.  This has been a dream of mine for as long as i can remember.

6. Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NpMwLs

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor  ($562.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 5.5 g Thermal Paste  ($17.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($234.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1192.91 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 7000D AIRFLOW ATX Full Tower Case  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($229.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($14.88 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Sceptre E275B-QPT168 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($199.97 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Redragon K582 SURARA RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Duttek (2-Pack) 6 inch 19 Pin USB 3.0 Female to 9 Pin USB2.0 Male Motherboard Cable Adapter Converter(Black)  ($8.86 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Windows 11 ($35.00)
Total: $3422.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-09 23:02 EDT-0400

 

So i tried to break down below kind of my thought process on each part incase you needed further info.

 

Cpu: Went with the I9 even though its overkill because it does indeed improve performance over both the i5 and i7 and was within my budget. I seriously looked at the new 7800x3d but i didnt think it provided enough of an improvement over the intel chips. I was also not impressed by the selection of motherboards available for amd cpus.

Cooler: I went with the Arctic LF II 420 because from all my research it seems to be the best you can get, and the price seems to be the best as well.

MB: After doing a bit of research the Gigabyte Gaming X AX seemed to have all the features i wanted while still staying under 300$.

RAM: wanted 6000+ at 10 or lower First Word, This seemed to be the best specced ram at a good price.

Storage: Wanted a Samsung 980 pro, and another storage. Honestly didnt want to have to fight with decision on which drive to store any given game so i went with the same drive. I know thats a little dumb, but hey.

GPU: Was originally considering the 7900xtx but i wanted to go with the 4080 for the possibility of raytracing. and just overall seemed to be a better performer.

Case: This i have gone through so many selections, i eventually landed on this case after watching alot of videos on builds using various cases. I wanted a case that could fit the 420 in a top mounted position, as well as a case that was big enough to be easy to work in for my first time. And i wouldnt mind eventually upgrading to a custom loop down the road and this case will also handle that easily.

Powersupply: Was using a filter for cheapest ATX 3.0 high on the PSU Tier list. Currently its landed on the Montech Titan Gold. I know 1200w is a little overkill but i know the i9 and the 4080 can be a bit power hungry so i wanted plenty to be available.

Case Fans: Just picked up some extra fans to fill out the rest of the case. Will use the fans coming with the case as front intake, use the Arctic as side (120s) intake and the rear (140) exhaust. Top radiator will cover top exhaust.

Monitor: This seemed to be the best bang for the buck 1440p high refresh monitor.

Keyboard: Wanted a decent mechanical 100% keyboard that wasnt too expensive. can always upgrade later.

 

Duttek cable is because the case needs 2 3.2 Gen 1 headers and my motherboard only has one.

 

I am about 2 or 3 weeks from pulling the trigger and i know prices may change a tad but i wanted to make sure im not missing anything. I am coming from using a laptop for years, so i have a mouse, but needed a keyboard and Monitor. Ive tried to do as much research on everything as i could but watching alot of youtube doesnt = experience. Thanks in advance for any advice and help!

If you need any further information please let me know.

 

[Bingus_Bongus]

I legit don't see any issues. Maybe add another identical RAM kit in the future but that's about it. 13900K will be excellent future proof as well as 4080.

[SorryBella]

3 hours ago, SooperValar said:

Primarily Gaming

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

but i didnt think it provided enough of an improvement over the intel chips

Did you look at this in the perspective of current scalping price of 800$ or are you looking at this in MSRP of 450$? Because 13900K is 50$ more expensive, harder to cool, and needs a contact frame to fix said cooling issue while AMD is more creature comfort for a more level cold weld contact with the heatspreader. Diamond hands, 7800X3D would be a far better CPU.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

Cooler: I went with the Arctic LF II 420 because from all my research it seems to be the best you can get, and the price seems to be the best as well.

Then youll be awfully aware that its hard to find cases for it, 360mm is more common. But hey, if you want it then it is possible to get them.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

RAM: wanted 6000+ at 10 or lower First Word, This seemed to be the best specced ram at a good price.

For Intel you want the highest frequency, not latency. You can straight face just run 6800+ RAM with high CL40 latency on it. But i am going AMD on this rebuild so the opposite is true.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

Storage: Wanted a Samsung 980 pro, and another storage. Honestly didnt want to have to fight with decision on which drive to store any given game so i went with the same drive. I know thats a little dumb, but hey.

Bleh, its fine to get identical drive for different purpose, its just not optimal for cost per gigabyte and thats it. I personally think that budget 4.0 drives are fine for the most part and 3.0 is still very viable for both boot drive and game drive as even in Forspoken (first proper directstorage title) the difference between 3.0 to 5.0 is around 1 second.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

for the possibility of raytracing. and just overall seemed to be a better performer.

If you account for ray traced performance yes, the 4080 is just better especially with access to nvidia-specific settings in certain games like DLSS 3 with Deep Learning Frame Generation. Theyre bad today, but im gonna bet theyll be better and better by time just like DLSS 1 was a trash heap of fire. For raw rasterization though, XTX fights 4090 in value and sit in between 4080 and 4090 in performance for 200$ and 600$ less respectively.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

Case: This i have gone through so many selections, i eventually landed on this case after watching alot of videos on builds using various cases. I wanted a case that could fit the 420 in a top mounted position, as well as a case that was big enough to be easy to work in for my first time. And i wouldnt mind eventually upgrading to a custom loop down the road and this case will also handle that easily.

Ive said it before, shopping cases to fit 420mm is pain. Its either your pick or Lancool 3, pick a poison.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

Powersupply: Was using a filter for cheapest ATX 3.0 high on the PSU Tier list.

Its fine to go for dedicated 12VHPWR but remember that both adapters and dedicated would still burn without proper connection on 12VHPWR. And besides, the power and heat of the 4000 series Nvidia and 7000 series AMD is so much lower in burden than the previous generation, you can genuinely run it through an 850W PSU.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

Monitor: This seemed to be the best bang for the buck 1440p high refresh monitor.

Nope, cheap doesnt equal good value especially in fast paced games. G27Q exists for 40$ more with far better response times and color.

4 hours ago, SooperValar said:

can always upgrade later

KM360 by G.Skill is only 5$ extra if you dont mind TKL and thats 1000hz instead of 125hz. More close to endgame. Im gonna assume youve had a mouse.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 5.5 g Thermal Paste  ($17.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($112.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($1599.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 
Keyboard: G.Skill KM360 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Duttek (2-Pack) 6 inch 19 Pin USB 3.0 Female to 9 Pin USB2.0 Male Motherboard Cable Adapter Converter(Black)  ($8.86 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Windows 11 ($35.00)
Total: $3438.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-10 03:35 EDT-0400

[PC HEROES]

16 hours ago, SooperValar said:

1. Budget & Location

USA, 3-3.5k

2. Aim

Primarily Gaming, and other generalized computer nonsense.

3. Monitors

Plan to use at least 2 if not 3 monitors.  Buying one that will be 1440p, others will only be 1080 as that's all I have.  Eventually will upgrade to at least a primary monitor that can do 4k.

4. Peripherals

Coming from using a laptop, so i will be buying a monitor and keyboard.  Already have a mouse that works well for me.  Will be buying windows as well.

5. Why are you upgrading?

First build, finally after years of working my ass off and getting through life im finally at the point that i can afford to build a pc.  This has been a dream of mine for as long as i can remember.

6. Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NpMwLs

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor  ($562.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 5.5 g Thermal Paste  ($17.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($234.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1192.91 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 7000D AIRFLOW ATX Full Tower Case  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($229.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($14.88 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Sceptre E275B-QPT168 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($199.97 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Redragon K582 SURARA RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Duttek (2-Pack) 6 inch 19 Pin USB 3.0 Female to 9 Pin USB2.0 Male Motherboard Cable Adapter Converter(Black)  ($8.86 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Windows 11 ($35.00)
Total: $3422.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-09 23:02 EDT-0400

 

So i tried to break down below kind of my thought process on each part incase you needed further info.

 

Cpu: Went with the I9 even though its overkill because it does indeed improve performance over both the i5 and i7 and was within my budget. I seriously looked at the new 7800x3d but i didnt think it provided enough of an improvement over the intel chips. I was also not impressed by the selection of motherboards available for amd cpus.

Cooler: I went with the Arctic LF II 420 because from all my research it seems to be the best you can get, and the price seems to be the best as well.

MB: After doing a bit of research the Gigabyte Gaming X AX seemed to have all the features i wanted while still staying under 300$.

RAM: wanted 6000+ at 10 or lower First Word, This seemed to be the best specced ram at a good price.

Storage: Wanted a Samsung 980 pro, and another storage. Honestly didnt want to have to fight with decision on which drive to store any given game so i went with the same drive. I know thats a little dumb, but hey.

GPU: Was originally considering the 7900xtx but i wanted to go with the 4080 for the possibility of raytracing. and just overall seemed to be a better performer.

Case: This i have gone through so many selections, i eventually landed on this case after watching alot of videos on builds using various cases. I wanted a case that could fit the 420 in a top mounted position, as well as a case that was big enough to be easy to work in for my first time. And i wouldnt mind eventually upgrading to a custom loop down the road and this case will also handle that easily.

Powersupply: Was using a filter for cheapest ATX 3.0 high on the PSU Tier list. Currently its landed on the Montech Titan Gold. I know 1200w is a little overkill but i know the i9 and the 4080 can be a bit power hungry so i wanted plenty to be available.

Case Fans: Just picked up some extra fans to fill out the rest of the case. Will use the fans coming with the case as front intake, use the Arctic as side (120s) intake and the rear (140) exhaust. Top radiator will cover top exhaust.

Monitor: This seemed to be the best bang for the buck 1440p high refresh monitor.

Keyboard: Wanted a decent mechanical 100% keyboard that wasnt too expensive. can always upgrade later.

 

Duttek cable is because the case needs 2 3.2 Gen 1 headers and my motherboard only has one.

 

I am about 2 or 3 weeks from pulling the trigger and i know prices may change a tad but i wanted to make sure im not missing anything. I am coming from using a laptop for years, so i have a mouse, but needed a keyboard and Monitor. Ive tried to do as much research on everything as i could but watching alot of youtube doesnt = experience. Thanks in advance for any advice and help!

If you need any further information please let me know.

 

I think this would be a much better build for you, I did keep some things you wanted but had to change most of it so that it actually made sense, I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please let me know.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KJWy6r

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($585.80 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer 360 74 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($134.69 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 5.5 g Thermal Paste  ($17.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($57.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($179.99 @ Best Buy)
Monitor: Sceptre E275B-QPT168 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($199.97 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Redragon K512 SHIVA RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3348.32