FPS Drops

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Specs:

GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Super Gaming X Trio
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI (MS-7B93)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro / 4 x 8GB, 3600 MHz, DDR4-RAM, DIMM (32GB)
Bios Date: 03/01/2023 Version: 1.I0
OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Home (x64) Build 22621.1485
Monitors:
Acer XB273 GX, 1920x1090 and 240hz (Main Monitor for FPS games)
Acer VG270U P, 2540x1440 and 144hz (for High quality games)
Acer V277, 1920x1080 and 75hz (2nd Monitor)

In game (CSGO and Overwatch):
Capped FPS at 300.
FPS aren't stable.
FPS Drops to 160 in both games. CPU peak 75%, GPU peak 60%
It drops more when I record.
CPU and GPU usage both at around 50%, Temps at GPU AVG:64C CPU Avg: 62C.
Ram stable at 15GB.

What I've tried:
Reinstalled Window multiple times.
Playing with graphic settings (always same fps drops on high or low graphics).
Updating drivers (Bios, Gpu Drivers and updating Windows).
Multiple uninstalls of game, also used repair game files function.
Ran games with closing all background processes.
Auto overclocked the CPU with AMD Ryzen Master.

I just want stable at least 250 FPS in Overwatch and CSGO.
I'm thinking the CPU is bottle necking my GPU but I don't really know.
And I'm thinking of buying a new CPU maybe a Ryzen 7 5900x or Ryzen 7 5800x3d but I don't know if its going to solve my problem.

[191x7]

You are looking at it right, it's a CPU bottleneck and you have two ways of improving, you have a choice of;

1. Gaming on the 1440p monitor

2. Upgrading the CPU or the whole platform

 

A regular Zen3 CPU like the 5600, 5700X or 5900X would help a nice bit, but not nearly as much as a 5800X3D, the difference between them is huge.

The best would be a new platform, but that's the priciest; for example a B650 motherboard with the Ryzen 7800X3D and 32GB DDR5.

 

The 5800X3D would probably be the best option you can opt for if you want to keep playing the shooters on 1080p. 

And, after that, a whole platform upgrade would be in order (Ryzen 9000 would be my bet).

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6 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

You are looking at it right, it's a CPU bottleneck and you have two ways of improving, you have a choice of;

1. Gaming on the 1440p monitor

2. Upgrading the CPU or the whole platform

 

A regular Zen3 CPU like the 5600, 5700X or 5900X would help a nice bit, but not nearly as much as a 5800X3D, the difference between them is huge.

The best would be a new platform, but that's the priciest; for example a B650 motherboard with the Ryzen 7800X3D and 32GB DDR5.

 

The 5800X3D would probably be the best option you can opt for if you want to keep playing the shooters on 1080p. 

And, after that, a whole platform upgrade would be in order (Ryzen 9000 would be my bet).

Thank you very much for your quick answer.
I will try to get my hands on a 5800X3D as soon as possible then and keep you up to date.

[SquintyG33Rs]

throwing hardware at problems is a common solution... so yeah slapping a 5800X3D will solve your problems (or at least improve them).

 

but technically short drops will always happen randomly. are you just seeing 160 in the graph and you don't like it? or is it a thing that continues happening every 3 seconds? because those are very different... it's impossible you don't have stuff open when over 20GB are used for just CS:GO open... I don't know what it is but there's something in the background.

your hardware shouldn't be a limiting factor. CS:GO is ancient and is very single thread limited, you should probably just turn on PBO and let the CPU auto boost itself instead of trying to do an OC manually. even a GTX 1660 gets 300FPS and 0.1% low of 160fps is not a problem at all.

 

you have to look at the usage on individual cores to tell if it's not working as intended. and to prevent the windows from doing dumb stuff you can lock the CS:GO process to specific cores (it'll prevent bouncing the process and it will remove some drops) using the set affinity in the details tab of task manager

 

edit TLDR: I extremly doubt that your hardware is not powerful enough to do what you're describing.

 

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1 hour ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

throwing hardware at problems is a common solution... so yeah slapping a 5800X3D will solve your problems (or at least improve them).

 

but technically short drops will always happen randomly. are you just seeing 160 in the graph and you don't like it? or is it a thing that continues happening every 3 seconds? because those are very different... it's impossible you don't have stuff open when over 20GB are used for just CS:GO open... I don't know what it is but there's something in the background.

your hardware shouldn't be a limiting factor. CS:GO is ancient and is very single thread limited, you should probably just turn on PBO and let the CPU auto boost itself instead of trying to do an OC manually. even a GTX 1660 gets 300FPS and 0.1% low of 160fps is not a problem at all.

 

you have to look at the usage on individual cores to tell if it's not working as intended. and to prevent the windows from doing dumb stuff you can lock the CS:GO process to specific cores (it'll prevent bouncing the process and it will remove some drops) using the set affinity in the details tab of task manager

 

edit TLDR: I extremly doubt that your hardware is not powerful enough to do what you're describing.

 

The drops happen when I fight/being in combat and it really affects me. In the spawn where almost nothing is going on im at 300 fps.
I'd like to have some tabs open and be able to record or stream. I already tried running games with absolutely nothing running in the background and it just helped only a little bit.
So I'll go for the upgrade of the cpu.

[SquintyG33Rs]

Just now, Barcodeyy said:

The drops happen when I fight/being in combat and it really affects me. In the spawn where almost nothing is going on im at 300 fps.
I'd like to have some tabs open and be able to record or stream. I already tried running games with absolutely nothing running in the background and it just helped only a little bit.
So I'll go for the upgrade of the cpu.

yeah i don't think that's will fix it... the 3700X is not slow enough to be a problem with CS:GO. something else is going on here.

 

how are you recording? having a few tabs open shouldn't be a problem but Chrome is getting really bad in background usage (it used to be just ram) people are turning off GPU acceleration in chrome to try and keep it in check.

 

and when you say absolutely nothing running. how deep down the rabbit hole of manually killing stuff in task manager did you go? did you just close your browser and discord and assume they where closed?

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27 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

yeah i don't think that's will fix it... the 3700X is not slow enough to be a problem with CS:GO. something else is going on here.

 

how are you recording? having a few tabs open shouldn't be a problem but Chrome is getting really bad in background usage (it used to be just ram) people are turning off GPU acceleration in chrome to try and keep it in check.

 

and when you say absolutely nothing running. how deep down the rabbit hole of manually killing stuff in task manager did you go? did you just close your browser and discord and assume they where closed?

I killed everything in the taskmanager under details tab before. Also when I reinstalled Windows I only had steam (csgo) and battlenet (overwatch) installed and it wasn't rly better.

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Is it possible that it's caused by using 4 RAM sticks instead of 2. I have read that that can cause some sort of instability but I have never tried it and have no clue if it holds up to anything.

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Just now, Nefect said:

Is it possible that it's caused by using 4 RAM sticks instead of 2. I have read that that can cause some sort of instability but I have never tried it and have no clue if it holds up to anything.

Maybe in the past like years ago. It does not really cause a problem now.

[SquintyG33Rs]

4 hours ago, Nefect said:

Is it possible that it's caused by using 4 RAM sticks instead of 2. I have read that that can cause some sort of instability but I have never tried it and have no clue if it holds up to anything.

it loads the controller more so they're not able to hit the really really high speeds but he's not using crazy ram.