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Hello ive been wanting to build a pc for years but never had the money to do so ive threw together some parts on pc part picker and was hoping i could get some feedback on any possible issues as im more than likely going to go ahead and give it ago and build the end results. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mmzFv3

 

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buy a cheaper board. expensive boards only come with more features, not more performance.

 

If your only gaming you don't need more than 16GB of ram.

 

Samsung drives are expensive. You could get a 2TB Kingston NV2 for alot less than the 2TB of samsung storage you've bought (and with the Kingston it will all be NVMe, instead of just half).

 

Your spending alot on RGB case fans. Keep in mind that they have no effect on performance.

 

Consider an RX 6700 XT instead of a 3060. It will be better value for money.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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53 minutes ago, JaffertonM7 said:

Hello ive been wanting to build a pc for years but never had the money to do so ive threw together some parts on pc part picker and was hoping i could get some feedback on any possible issues as im more than likely going to go ahead and give it ago and build the end results. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mmzFv3

 

Hey... This build I have here below is much better price to performance and what you had and costs about $200 less. I have been building PCs for 30 years and this is what I do for a living. If you have any questions please let me know.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9NKNd9

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£129.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£63.07 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£170.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£60.76 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£149.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (£361.19 @ Newegg UK)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (£95.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.43 @ Amazon UK)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 kHz Sound Card  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: GAMDIAS AEOLUS M2 56 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1306.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I have been building PCs for over 30 years so if you have any questions please ask. For Future Communication I use Discord for much Faster Response Times as I have it open 24/7. I am also available if you need help before, during, or after the Build Process on Discord through Text,Voice, or Video Chat. I can be with you while you build your new PC if you need me to be. Here is my Discord: Wizardsnapper#2772

 

 

 

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Would spending less on this be in your best interest?   If money is tight, I would highly recommend not overspending on things that don't have much of an effect on how the PC is gonna work.   A little for aesthetics here and there is no big deal, but you could spend a lot less than this and get something that works about the same.

 

Scratch that, this would be significantly faster in every game for about 880 pounds, which if money is tight, might be a godsend/  Hell, even if it's not tight, you really wouldn't be any better off spending much more than this for this performance level:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£129.99 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING SE-214-XT 68.2 CFM CPU Cooler  (£19.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£94.61 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (£65.02 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£99.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (£361.19 @ Newegg UK) 
Case: Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600 GD 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £879.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-29 23:56 BST+0100

 

 A lot of these other parts lists still have a decent amount of frivolous or downright ridiculous allocations of budget going on, but I promise you this is as optimized as it gets for a gaming PC without compromising anything.  

  • Hyperthreaded hexacore that's more than fast enough for the GPU
  • The CPU does not get very hot, but a basic aftermarket cooler is plenty to keep it cool and running at max speed.  Anything more would be wasted.
  • 32GB of 3600MHz RAM for 63 pounds is a great deal.  Some of these other parts lists have you paying 60 pounds for 16GB.  Yeah, you only need 16GB, but it's only a teeny bit more for 32GB, so you may as well.
  • The gigabuyte DS3H have been a good board for a while without any bells and whistles that just work well.  It also has onboard wifi and bluetooth.
  • 6700xt is the best value/performance GPU rioght now, and it'll play everything very well at 1440p
  • 2TB gen 4 SSD.  You really donp;t need 2 SSDs, just make a separate 120gb partition for windows, drivers, and other appas and utilities
  • This case has good airflow and comes with all the fans you need, as well as an ARGB controller and a PWM splitter for the fans.  The PSU shroud runs the length of the case and is ventilated, so despite being compactt, your GPU will still get plenty of air while giving you plenty of space to store the extra PSU cables out of sight
  • Good deal for a well-made PSU.  600w on a good unit like this is plenty for a 5600 and a 6700xt.

 

 

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1 hour ago, will0hlep said:

buy a cheaper board. expensive boards only come with more features, not more performance.

 

If your only gaming you don't need more than 16GB of ram.

 

Samsung drives are expensive. You could get a 2TB Kingston NV2 for alot less than the 2TB of samsung storage you've bought (and with the Kingston it will all be NVMe, instead of just half).

 

Your spending alot on RGB case fans. Keep in mind that they have no effect on performance.

 

Consider an RX 6700 XT instead of a 3060. It will be better value for money.

kingston drives have no cache 😕

you dont need an aio for anything but i9 cpus or heavy oc jobs just get an nh-d15 or peerless assassin

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4 minutes ago, McrP87 said:

kingston drives have no cache 😕

Yes, but for every day use and gaming, cache just isn’t that important any more. It might be slow on large amounts of writes, but the lack of cache barely effects the reads and small writes which comprise normal use.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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5 minutes ago, McrP87 said:

kingston drives have no cache 😕

 

2 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Yes, but for every day use and gaming, cache just isn’t that important any more. It might be slow on large amounts of writes, but the lack of cache barely effects the reads and small writes which comprise normal use.

This.  People obsess over SSD specs and stuff way too heavily on gaming PCs.  Anything NVMe, for all intents and purposes, will do everything you want it to virtually instantly.  Even SATA SSDs are still ultra snappy for office, web, and most gaming use. 

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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OP, do you have a gaming monitor?  With a system like this, you'd be robbing yourself to not get one, especially if you were planning on spending 1500 pounds and can get what you want for a lot less.

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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2 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

OP, do you have a gaming monitor?  With a system like this, you'd be robbing yourself to not get one, especially if you were planning on spending 1500 pounds and can get what you want for a lot less.

+1. I honestly wanna wait for OP response on some of these questions:
1. Whats the purpose of the rig?
2. How much are you willing to spend?

3. Do you already have any peripherals handy?

 

If you havent, watch Linus' video on part picking, the 1st 33 minutes of The Last Guide You'll Ever Need.

 

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So im also looking to invest in a monitor and i have one picked out but atm id mostly be using my 4k 120 tv untill i can get the money to get the monitor, im mostly trying to buy the computer parts of amazon purely for convenience as i cant be bothered buying of multiple sites (very lazy ik but i can schedule the deliveries more conveniently for work). Im willing to spend upto £1500. The build is mostly threw together of what seems to be compatible so it is messy and unoptimised and i havent really tried to cut back on price to much. I have watched the video linked above before but i will try and find some time to rewatch it when i get a moment to refresh. The fans i deffo added to many but im not sure whats most optimal for air circulation so i thought it would be better to be safe, ideally if i can get a pc the runs better and faster than what i built has decent ram abit of cache and what not as it will mainly be used for gaming but i do like playing around with modelling software and other things, games ill mainly be playing would be the big bois like mw2 and that but i also enjoyed playing civ type games and that. Some of the parts ive chosen like the cpu and gpu mainly of brand recognition as ive heard they are decent but if there is better for cheaper then all the better really. On the rgb front im honestly not to fussed i just sort of added it in but i can live without it, As for peripherals im just going to get some cheap ones to start with and upgrade over time. Thanks to everyone who has responded ur advice and recommendations are really appreciated 🙂 

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This is the new concept i included the future monitor i plan on buying mostly took inspiration from pc heroes with some items exchanged for in stock equivalents. Thank you queen as u basically backed up that i didnt do to good of a job picking a cpu and gpu and that there is better on the market for similar or cheaper pricing 

 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jqB9k9

  

CPU

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor

Price

£129.99

CPU Cooler

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler

Price

£63.07

Motherboard

MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard

Price

£170.98

Memory

Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Price

£60.76

Storage

Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

Price

£54.99

Storage

Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

Price

£149.99

Video Card

Asus DUAL Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card

Price

£387.08

Case

Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case

Price

£109.99

Power Supply

Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Price

£99.43

Sound Card

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Rx 24-bit 192 kHz Sound Card

Price

£59.99

Case Fan

GAMDIAS AEOLUS M2 56 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack

Price

£59.99

Monitor

MSI Optix MAG322CQRV 31.5" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor

Price

£279.00

Total:

£1346.26

In reality its probably gonna be 1676 total due to Amazon pricing not being the best but for convenience sake and being able to get it all at once and not over the next 6 months works out better for me

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