PC for work and play

[DHUMSHAN]

Budget (including currency): Rupees 1,70,000 (~$2000)

 

Country: India

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Assassin's Creed games after Valhalla, Cities Skylines I & II (When Released) Playing and Recording Gameplay, New Far Cry Releases, CoD, Adobe Illustrator, After Effects, Chrome Tabs (135 are open right now), I plan to add a 2nd 1440P monitor in future.

 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Existing Parts: 

• 1 x 27" 2K Monitor Gigabyte G27Q
• Mouse & Keyboard

Needed:

• Wifi 6/6E receiver (I think motherboards have that now a days)
• 1 TB SSD
• 2 TB HDD
• 64 GB RAM
• Windows 11 Pro

Required Resolution and Refresh Rate:

1440P & 120-144 Hz

Upgrading From:

Acer Predator Helios 500 (i9 8950HK, Geforce GTX 1070, 48 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 2 TB HDD)

Why Upgrading:

I have used Acer Predator Helios 500 for 4 years now as my work and entertainment computer. It worked fine until now. Recently I repasted it. GPU temps have gotten 10 degrees less but CPU temps are wildly fluctuating and it shutdowns if I play AC games after overheating. I suspect that one of the screws is not putting enough pressure on the CPU. Also I am going to buy a laptop suitable for carrying around with good battery backup for my business purpose. So I decided to get a PC that I can work and play video games on in my home office.

When Buying:

In April 2023. Within a Month.

No water cooling if possible. Remember that room temperatures are higher in India.

[Penpilot]

1 hour ago, DHUMSHAN said:

Remember that room temperatures are higher in India.

dude just give the ambient of summers and winters, if u live in Shimla then you can just use the stock cooler but if u live in delhi then you will need otherwise overkill cooling

 

this is what i could get- this is all from amazon BTW-

 fans

GPU

case

power supply

hard drive

SSD

motherboard

cooler

RAM (get 2 of these for 64GB)

CPU

this totals to 1 laks 71 thousand and 500

[brob]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($389.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($234.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP34 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($221.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2110.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-29 07:53 EDT-0400

[Penpilot]

@brob have you cross cheeked for the local Indian prices? almost every thing is more expensive over here(yes, i live in India too), especially the storage devices

[brob]

40 minutes ago, planetary problem said:

@brob have you cross cheeked for the local Indian prices? almost every thing is more expensive over here(yes, i live in India too), especially the storage devices

 

No I haven't. I also didn't check for product availability. I know the outlined system is well over budget. Fact is, I doubt the given specs are reasonably possible within the given budget.

[Penpilot]

i cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not

 

[brob]

30 minutes ago, planetary problem said:

i cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not

 

 

No sarcasm intended.

[DHUMSHAN]

21 hours ago, planetary problem said:

 

dude just give the ambient of summers and winters, if u live in Shimla then you can just use the stock cooler but if u live in delhi then you will need otherwise overkill cooling

 

this is what i could get- this is all from amazon BTW-

 fans

GPU

case

power supply

hard drive

SSD

motherboard

cooler

RAM (get 2 of these for 64GB)

CPU

this totals to 1 laks 71 thousand and 500

31-32 degrees celsius or 87-89 degrees F.

[DHUMSHAN]

On 3/29/2023 at 5:23 PM, brob said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($389.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($234.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP34 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($221.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2110.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-29 07:53 EDT-0400

 

On 3/29/2023 at 4:08 PM, planetary problem said:

 

dude just give the ambient of summers and winters, if u live in Shimla then you can just use the stock cooler but if u live in delhi then you will need otherwise overkill cooling

 

this is what i could get- this is all from amazon BTW-

 fans

GPU

case

power supply

hard drive

SSD

motherboard

cooler

RAM (get 2 of these for 64GB)

CPU

this totals to 1 laks 71 thousand and 500

Will going for AMD CPU + GPU reduce the build cost?
I just prefer the latest generation ones so as to get as much mileage out of them as possible. Also, more often than not, new ones are more power efficient.

[brob]

15 minutes ago, DHUMSHAN said:

 

Will going for AMD CPU + GPU reduce the build cost?
I just prefer the latest generation ones so as to get as much mileage out of them as possible. Also, more often than not, new ones are more power efficient.

 

Possibly a little with a 7700X, perhaps around 5%. But the i7-13700 has better performance than the 7700X. Passmark suggests ~8% better.

[DHUMSHAN]

On 3/29/2023 at 4:08 PM, planetary problem said:

 

dude just give the ambient of summers and winters, if u live in Shimla then you can just use the stock cooler but if u live in delhi then you will need otherwise overkill cooling

 

this is what i could get- this is all from amazon BTW-

 fans

GPU

case

power supply

hard drive

SSD

motherboard

cooler

RAM (get 2 of these for 64GB)

CPU

this totals to 1 laks 71 thousand and 500

 

On 3/29/2023 at 5:23 PM, brob said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($389.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($234.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP34 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($221.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2110.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-29 07:53 EDT-0400

Hi, I have gotten a quote from a gaming PC builder. Their quote includes the following configuration:

Processor:

Intel i7 13700KF

 

Motherboard:

MSI B760P WIFI

 

Cooler:

Deepcool LS720 360MM AIO

 

RAM: 

32GB (16GB * 2) 6000MHZ ADATA Xpg Lancer

 

Graphics Card: 

Nvidia RTX 4070TI
 

SSD:

1TB Adata S50 Lite Gen4 NVME
 

Chassis:

Lian Li Lancool 216 Mesh

 

PSU:

Corsair RM850E ATX3.0 PCIE GEN5 80+ Gold 850W Fully Modular

 

Any thoughts on the brands used and anything else? Also, the i7 13700 KF does not have onboard graphics. Will it cause a problem if the GPU is dead or not connected during troubleshooting?

[brob]

2 hours ago, DHUMSHAN said:

Any thoughts on the brands used and anything else?

 

The brands and part choices are fine.

 

2 hours ago, DHUMSHAN said:

Will it cause a problem if the GPU is dead or not connected during troubleshooting?

 

Yes. A GPU of some sort is usually necessary when troubleshooting.

[Penpilot]

On 5/14/2023 at 5:18 PM, brob said:

Yes. A GPU of some sort is usually necessary when troubleshooting

though usually not needed but going for a non-F sku (for the CPU) may save you from a headache

[UnusualDevices]

if you are building in 2023 and your budget allows it, you should go AM5, absolutely without a doubt.

get a pcie 5 mobo with a blazing m.2 slot.

that will future proof you more than any other option.

[DHUMSHAN]

Hi, @planetary problem, @UnusualDevices, & @brob.
Finally, got this PC last week:
Processor Intel i7 13700K 
Motherboard MSI B760P WIFI (DDR5)
Cooler Deepcool LS720 360MM AIO 
RAM 32GB (32GB * 1) 6000MHZ ADATA Xpg Lancer (To add 1 32GB stick later instead of 2 16GB ones)
Graphics INNO3D NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti X3 12GB GDDR6X
SSD 1TB Adata S50 Lite Gen4 NVME

SSD 512GB Adata S50 Lite Gen4 NVME
Chassis Lian Li Lancool 216 Mesh
PSU Corsair RM850E ATX3.0 PCIE GEN5 80+ Gold 850W Fully Modular

[Penpilot]

have fun!

 

[Penpilot]

On 5/18/2023 at 6:29 PM, UnusualDevices said:

if you are building in 2023 and your budget allows it, you should go AM5, absolutely without a doubt.

get a pcie 5 mobo with a blazing m.2 slot.

that will future proof you more than any other option.

i disagree, i still recommend the 870 evo and 970 evo plus to NEW builders, SATA is not going to be obsolete anytime soon, so why worry about PCIE obsolescence????

[UnusualDevices]

On 6/25/2023 at 8:19 AM, planetary problem said:

i disagree, i still recommend the 870 evo and 970 evo plus to NEW builders, SATA is not going to be obsolete anytime soon, so why worry about PCIE obsolescence????

Well going AM5, you will be able to upgrade cpu's for a least a couple generations. And nothing Intel has is going to beat AMD X3D until at least 2025.

14th gen will just be another rehash. Few more cores, little more cache, viola! Still stuck at same process, no new architecture.

As far as game developers are concerned, once the consoles have moved on the technology is obsolete, which is why games are now being written to take advantage of at least 8 cores, and all high end consoles use high speed pcie storage. So yeah, sata is kind of obsolete for gaming.

And as for pcie obsolescence, we are just starting to see technologies that can take advantage of how fast pcie has become, like directstorage, for example.

Whats next? We don't know yet. Yet. So why buy into last gen's technology, when you can buy current gen for just a tiny bit more?

You can get a 1tb 5.0 drive today that's almost 3 times faster and has higher endurance than a 970 evo plus for less than $170.

[Penpilot]

On 6/30/2023 at 9:10 AM, UnusualDevices said:

You can get a 1tb 5.0 drive today that's almost 3 times faster and has higher endurance than a 970 evo plus for less than $170.

yet a 1TB 970 evo plus is $70, and a GEN 4 P5 plus 1TB often lower than that. and 2400TBW is high enough endurance. a GEN 5 SSD has no reason to exist, the NAND flash is not fast enough yet.

 

On 6/30/2023 at 9:10 AM, UnusualDevices said:

Well going AM5, you will be able to upgrade cpu's for a least a couple generations. And nothing Intel has is going to beat AMD X3D until at least 2025.

X3D is a waste of money, the zen 3 X3D was important cuz DDR 4 bandwidth was relatively low, but with DDR 5, that is not a problem anymore, and with AMDs second gen DDR 5 memory controller, i expect zen 5 X3D to have perf uplifts less than 7%. 

 

On 6/30/2023 at 9:10 AM, UnusualDevices said:

Well going AM5, you will be able to upgrade cpu's for a least a couple generations.

ya spend 1.5x for AM5 and get back the money during a upgrade, in either case, the cost is 2x, so why not get better performance now? LGA 1700 MOBOS are $120-140 for a good B760, the cost for amd is ~200 last i bothered to recommend AMD

On 6/30/2023 at 9:10 AM, UnusualDevices said:

14th gen will just be another rehash. Few more cores, little more cache, viola! Still stuck at same process, no new architecture.

IDK where u got that info, but that's wrong, 14th gen refresh will bring PROPER AVX support along with DLVR, which will result in 15-20% lower power consumption for the same perf or 10% higher clocks at the same power consumption. 14th gen will not have more cores