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I need some one more educated than me to help me decide between the PNY GeForce RTX 3060 Dual 12GB XLR8 Gaming VERTO or ASUS GeForce Dual RTX 3060 12G V2 GPU.

Before judgement is laid upon me - I understand that fundamentally, they are the same card with the same Nvidia backing, HOWEVER - this is a question for the following:

  • Stability

  • Software

  • Compatibility

  • Trust

I have heard of ASUS as I am upgrading from an ASUS Dual Radeon RX580 8GB, but I have never heard of PNY before. I do not want recommendations to go and buy the latest and greatest, as I am restricted by case size, motherboard, budget and availability. I am a gamer, student and part time graphic designer/content maker. This is not for mining or anything extravagant. Please understand this, as I am not wanting trolls.

Thanks in advance

 

PNY GeForce RTX 3060 Dual 12GB XLR8 Gaming Verto GPU: https://www.umart.com.au/product/pny-geforce-rtx-3060-dual-12gb-xlr8-gaming-verto-graphics-card-65979

ASUS GeForce Dual RTX 3060 12GB V2 GPU: https://www.umart.com.au/product/asus-geforce-dual-rtx-3060-12g-v2-graphics-card-68097

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“There will always be those who mean to do us harm. To stop them, we risk awakening the same evil within ourselves. Our first instinct is to seek revenge when those we love are taken from us. But that’s not who we are.”  - My Dad

 

 

My Specifications:

(GPU in process of Upgrade)

Component

Selection

CPU

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor

CPU Cooler

Cooler Master A71C 38.99 CFM CPU Cooler

Motherboard

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Storage

Gigabyte GP-GSTFS31240GNTD 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

GPU

ASUS RX580 8GB

Case

Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case

Power Supply

Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Operating System

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit

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What is the rest of your system?

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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Pny are fine. So are brands like inno3d and gainward. They wouldn't be nvidia partners if there was something wrong with them. There are plenty of systems i've built using those cards and never had an issue with them. I'm rocking an inno3d 3060 ti atm fyi.

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@191x7 as requested:

  • ASUS Prime B450m-A
  • Asus Ryzen 9 5900x to be installed (current Ryzen 3 3400G)
  • 32gb G.Skill Ripjaws 3200mhz RAM
  • Several HDDs/SSDs/M.2
    • Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2TB
    • Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 1TB
    • Seagate Barracuda SSD 480GB
    • Kingston A400 M.2 480GB (Main Drive)
    • Gigabyte SSD 240GB
    • Total Usable Storage (3918.44 GB)
  • Windows 10 64-bit
  • (Current GPU) Radeon RX580 Dual 8GB
Quote

“There will always be those who mean to do us harm. To stop them, we risk awakening the same evil within ourselves. Our first instinct is to seek revenge when those we love are taken from us. But that’s not who we are.”  - My Dad

 

 

My Specifications:

(GPU in process of Upgrade)

Component

Selection

CPU

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor

CPU Cooler

Cooler Master A71C 38.99 CFM CPU Cooler

Motherboard

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Storage

Gigabyte GP-GSTFS31240GNTD 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

GPU

ASUS RX580 8GB

Case

Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case

Power Supply

Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Operating System

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit

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10 minutes ago, Captain Kirks Son said:

@191x7 as requested:

  • ASUS Prime B450m-A
  • Asus Ryzen 9 5900x to be installed

 

PLEASE DON'T.

That board can't handle a 5900X, the VRM-s will blow. The 5900X is the most power hungry and most heating AM4 CPU.

You are going to have issues and then probably a bang followed by some white smoke.

And the board going out might take the CPU, RAM and maybe even the storage with it.

 

Consult this:

That board can barely handle a 65W CPU. The 5900X is a 105W base.

 

I've seen that board having memory compatibility issues, issues with a Ryzen 2700, issues with a 3500X, VRM protection (shutdown) kicking in under 3DMark with a 2700X (far less power hungry than a 5900X!)...

 

The highest I would recommend for that motherboard is a Ryzen 5 5600 (non G, non X), eventually a Ryzen 5700X.

Both are great upgrades over the 3400G.

 

Also, you forgot to name your power supply. That is importan.

 

And is there a reason you're choosing nVidia when you can get a noticeably stronger AMD Radeon in the same price range?

For example a Radeon RX 6650XT.

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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6 hours ago, 191x7 said:

the VRM-s will blow.

Unless it has no protection of any sort, it wouldnt blow... it will just slow down the CPU so you dont get all its performance

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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@Jurruniohere's hoping it comes to that instead then.

 

@191x7I certainly hope not. The current PSU is being replaced with a RM750e at the same time the CPU is/was going to be placed. Is there a board that you can recommend then that will handle it?

 

Quote

“There will always be those who mean to do us harm. To stop them, we risk awakening the same evil within ourselves. Our first instinct is to seek revenge when those we love are taken from us. But that’s not who we are.”  - My Dad

 

 

My Specifications:

(GPU in process of Upgrade)

Component

Selection

CPU

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor

CPU Cooler

Cooler Master A71C 38.99 CFM CPU Cooler

Motherboard

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Storage

Gigabyte GP-GSTFS31240GNTD 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

GPU

ASUS RX580 8GB

Case

Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case

Power Supply

Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Operating System

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit

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11 minutes ago, Captain Kirks Son said:

@Jurruniohere's hoping it comes to that instead then.

 

@191x7I certainly hope not. The current PSU is being replaced with a RM750e at the same time the CPU is/was going to be placed. Is there a board that you can recommend then that will handle it?

 

Any B550 board with a VRM heatsink or any X570 board or any X470 with a heatsink or B450 MSI boards (MSI X570 have the weakest VRM-s but their B450/X470 boards have the best out of the 400 series chipset boards; Gigabyte is usually fine, Asus too, ...).

I linked the AM4 motherboard tier list. Just find the boards you can afford and then check how they rank on the list, higher ranked = better choice.

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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Thanks @191x7 I will check it out

 

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“There will always be those who mean to do us harm. To stop them, we risk awakening the same evil within ourselves. Our first instinct is to seek revenge when those we love are taken from us. But that’s not who we are.”  - My Dad

 

 

My Specifications:

(GPU in process of Upgrade)

Component

Selection

CPU

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor

CPU Cooler

Cooler Master A71C 38.99 CFM CPU Cooler

Motherboard

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS WIFI II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

Storage

Gigabyte GP-GSTFS31240GNTD 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

GPU

ASUS RX580 8GB

Case

Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case

Power Supply

Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Operating System

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit

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