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3 hours ago, Danny Gonsalez said:

Great,the partlist is awesome.still in my budget and mostly i can buy everything on amazon.nl.only 1 question, this card could be better than the rx580 and do i have to upgrade my monitor into a 144hz or not?

 

The RX 6600 is quite a bit faster than the RX 580. 84% faster in a recent bench of about 25 games by Techpowerup

 

relative-performance_1920-1080.png

 

Does your 75Hz monitor have FreeSync? If so I wouldn't bother replacing it. If it doesn't then a 144 Hz monitor with FreeSync would be really nice. Pretty much any monitor that has come out in the last five years has FreeSync unless it's cheapo crap for office use or something.

 

I'd probably avoid the RX 580 now. Polaris is coming up on 7 years old and we now have a game that flat out won't run on it (Forspoken) thanks to it not supporting Direct X12_1. Forspoken is a trash game but probably still a canary in the coal mine.

Budget (including currency): €750

Country:  netherlands 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mostly newer games like elden ring but also older games like resident evil

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Hello everybody,im new on this forum and im planning to build a new pc.i know a bit basic things of pc parts but am struggling to put the right combo for cpu and gpu. Because the higher prices for gpu in my country its so difficult to make the right decission

Oke here are my thoughts what i think can lean in my budget.

Cpu: ryzen 5 5600x or intel i5 12400

Ram: 16gb 3200 cl 16

Mobo, b550 aorus pro - or mobo for intel.

I have a asus 75hz 1080p monitor.

I will mostly play at 1080p maybe upgrading in the future sometime to 1440p. But for now it will be at 1080p.

Will the monitor be good enough? 

Or do i have tp upgrade to a 144hz 1080p monitor?

Second is the GPU,here comes thebig dilemma,what to buy.

Either i wait for more budget or i buy a gpu now and maybe in the future a better gpu when prices drop down a bit. Thats why im leaning to a good cpu and mobo so i can upgrade the gpu later on this year.

I was looking to buy the radeon rx580 8gb.

But also looking the 5500xt or 5600 xt.

For days i was thinking to just wait and buy the 6700xt but price is around 450 in my country.

I dont play online games or competitive games like fortnite or cod...maybe i can try to play online also, who knows im not that experienced, cyberpunk 2077 is a game im looking to play for sure.But dont want choppy footage. It has to be somewhat smooth.i understand that higher tier gpus are better but its a budget thing for me.

Mostly i will play games in single player mode,like elden ring or resident evil and god of war. And also rpg games.And if possible most settings on high or ultra.

Im leaning more to ryzen 5 5600x with a b550 Motherboard  

The gpu is killing me.when i look some videos on youtube i see great smooth gameplays with the rx580 8gb.im leaning to that side,and second hand i can grab one for around €125. Dont know if second hand is a good buy.

Also i hope to not get bottlenecking with the cpu i want to buy.

I hope to get some guidance and help or advice here from you guys.

 

Thanks in advance

Gr danny 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Danny Gonsalez said:

Budget (including currency): €750

Country:  netherlands 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mostly newer games like elden ring but also older games like resident evil

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Hello everybody,im new on this forum and im planning to build a new pc.i know a bit basic things of pc parts but am struggling to put the right combo for cpu and gpu. Because the higher prices for gpu in my country its so difficult to make the right decission

Oke here are my thoughts what i think can lean in my budget.

Cpu: ryzen 5 5600x or intel i5 12400

Ram: 16gb 3200 cl 16

Mobo, b550 aorus pro - or mobo for intel.

I have a asus 75hz 1080p monitor.

I will mostly play at 1080p maybe upgrading in the future sometime to 1440p. But for now it will be at 1080p.

Will the monitor be good enough? 

Or do i have tp upgrade to a 144hz 1080p monitor?

Second is the GPU,here comes thebig dilemma,what to buy.

Either i wait for more budget or i buy a gpu now and maybe in the future a better gpu when prices drop down a bit. Thats why im leaning to a good cpu and mobo so i can upgrade the gpu later on this year.

I was looking to buy the radeon rx580 8gb.

But also looking the 5500xt or 5600 xt.

For days i was thinking to just wait and buy the 6700xt but price is around 450 in my country.

I dont play online games or competitive games like fortnite or cod...But dont want choppy footage. It has to be somewhat smooth.i understand that higher tier gpus are better but its a budget thing for me.

Mostly i will play games in single player mode,like elden ring or resident evil and god of war. And also rpg games.And if possible most settings on high or ultra.

Im leaning more to ryzen 5 5600x with a b550 Motherboard  

The gpu is killing me.when i look some videos on youtube i see great smooth gameplays with the rx580 8gb.im leaning to that side,and second hand i can grab one for around €125. Dont know if second hand is a good buy.

Also i hope to not get bottlenecking with the cpu i want to buy.

I hope to get some guidance and help or advice here from you guys.

 

Thanks in advance

Gr danny 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, do you need pheriferials in that budget as well (or do you only need to build the PC and buy an OS)?

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

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At that budget I'd be looking at something like this.

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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2 minutes ago, Danny Gonsalez said:

No only parts, OS is outside the budget. Thanks for youre time and reply. Im going to look at youre list ok.

In that case I’d: 1) swap the 5500 to a 5600 or 5600X or 2) add some extra storage in the form of a 2 TB hard drive (I like the Seagate barracuda).

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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3 hours ago, Danny Gonsalez said:

Great,the partlist is awesome.still in my budget and mostly i can buy everything on amazon.nl.only 1 question, this card could be better than the rx580 and do i have to upgrade my monitor into a 144hz or not?

 

The RX 6600 is quite a bit faster than the RX 580. 84% faster in a recent bench of about 25 games by Techpowerup

 

relative-performance_1920-1080.png

 

Does your 75Hz monitor have FreeSync? If so I wouldn't bother replacing it. If it doesn't then a 144 Hz monitor with FreeSync would be really nice. Pretty much any monitor that has come out in the last five years has FreeSync unless it's cheapo crap for office use or something.

 

I'd probably avoid the RX 580 now. Polaris is coming up on 7 years old and we now have a game that flat out won't run on it (Forspoken) thanks to it not supporting Direct X12_1. Forspoken is a trash game but probably still a canary in the coal mine.

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SteveGrabowski0  i have this monitor from asus. Didnt knew but when i looked uo the specs it has 75hz refresh. I se something with 1ms...dont know if this has domething to do with freesync. I attached a puc with the specs. Ive bought the monitor 4 years ago.

 

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22 minutes ago, Danny Gonsalez said:

SteveGrabowski0  i have this monitor from asus. Didnt knew but when i looked uo the specs it has 75hz refresh. I se something with 1ms...dont know if this has domething to do with freesync. I attached a puc with the specs. Ive bought the monitor 4 years ago.

 

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Yeah it's got FreeSync

 

https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/gaming/vg245he/

 

There's a few hoops you have to jump through to get FreeSync working properly. But once you do you can turn off VSync in game and get rid of stutters while FreeSync gets rid of tearing. Basically you'll need to

  • turn on variable refresh rate support in Windows (from Windows: Settings->Display->Graphics Settings->Variable Refresh Rate->On)
  • From the Adrenaline control panel turn on FreeSync support (from Adrenaline: Settings->Display->AMD FreeSync -> Enabled)
  • In the Adrenaline control panel setup a frame cap at say 71 fps, maybe 72 fps (From Adrenaline: Settings->Graphics->Advanced->Frame Rate Target Control->Enabled, then set to say 72FPS in the MAX FPS box below)
  • Turn on Radeon Enhanced Sync (from Arenaline: Settings->Graphics->Radeon Enhanced Sync->Enabled)

This should allow you to use FreeSync to get the most out of your monitor and gpu with the RX 6600. You have to set the frame cap to say 71 or 72 FPS because otherwise you'll get tearing in some games when it goes to 75 fps or above since your panel goes up to 75Hz. For instance, on my 60 Hz FreeSync panel (Asus TUF Gaming VG289Q1A) if I play Cyberpunk for some reason I don't get tearing if I frame cap to 60, but in Control I have to frame cap to 57 to keep it from ever going over 60 and introducing tearing. Once you get FreeSync working right it's a real gamechanger though. It allows me to not have to chase 60 fps minimums like I did using a non FreeSync monitor, as I find anything ~50 fps or better to look indistinguishable from 60 fps, although steady drops to below 45 fps start getting ugly even though my panel has a FreeSync range down to 40 Hz.

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SteveGrabowski0  thank you very very much for the effort to explain it to me. For sure I didnt knew that how to do it. Oke 1 question about adrenaline...is that the amd software that i will get when i install the gpu driver.

Btw i will also use emulators to play games especially switch. So i hope this setup will support that also. 

Im happy to hear that i dont have to buy another monitor for now maybe in future i will step up to 1440p but for now i will be happy with 1080p.

Again thank you very much for helping.

 

 

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