Is my GPU dead?

[Rafael brds]

Hey, i bought a NVIDIA GT 1030 for my low-end PC About 6 months ago and it was working perfectly on a everyday use.

I use to play and work on it and it wansn't Being giving any issues.

Till today, even yesterday it was working normally, but today i turned on my PC and it wasn't displaying anything.

I tried the igpu and it works but says the 1030 isnt plugged in.

Tried to reinstall the drivers it says: " none NVIDIA gpu installed".

The gpu fan works and i didnt update anything so no software changes ocurred.

I cant get a display with the GT 1030 and cant understand why.

Computer is:

-AMD A8-7600 processor

- 8gb DDR3 RAM

-1 terabyte HDD disk

-the Said not working NVIDIA GT 1030 gpu

-220w power supply(which never Gave problems to the gpu)

-windows 10

 

The store build was an: Acer tc-220 

Pretty old PC but the GT 1030 i bought was Shining.

 

 

 

[Takumidesh]

did you try reaseating the gpu?

[CaptainDarkstar42]

Did you try the GPU in another computer or slot on the motherboard?

[Rafael brds]

Just now, Takumidesh said:

did you try reaseating the gpu?

Yes i unistalled all NVIDIA software and drivers but when i tried to install them back the gpu was stilo not displaying 

[Rafael brds]

Just now, CaptainDarkstar42 said:

Did you try the GPU in another computer or slot on the motherboard?

Dont have another computer and i have only 1 PCI express x16 on my motherboard 

[Takumidesh]

3 minutes ago, Rafael brds said:

Yes i unistalled all NVIDIA software and drivers but when i tried to install them back the gpu was stilo not displaying 

ok, you are saying you reinstalled the drivers. I am asking if you removed the gpu, and re installed it back iinto the computer.

[Rafael brds]

Just now, Takumidesh said:

ok, you are saying you reinstalled the drivers. I am asking if you removed the gpu, and re installed it back iinto the computer.

Yes, i've tried it all day, but still, the only displaying image i get is from the igpu.

[An0maly_76]

30 minutes ago, Rafael brds said:

Yes i unistalled all NVIDIA software and drivers but when i tried to install them back the gpu was stilo not displaying 

Uninstalling drivers is not the same as reseating the GPU, which involves opening the cabinet, preferably physically removing the GPU, cleaning with compressed air or vacuum, then reinstalling it.

 

If doing that does not work, you might look in your BIOs to see if there's an option to default to IGP that might have gotten reset. I'm repurposing an old H61 / LGA1155 machine right now that has a video options setting with IGP, PCI, or AUTO settings, integrated, GPU, or auto-detect, respectively. It's possible if your board has such a setting that it might have gotten scrambled and defaulted to the integrated graphics.

 

One other thing, have there been any recent BIOS updates or other hardware changes? BIOS revisions sometimes contain flubs that create unintentional ill effects. MSI just recently released a beta that shipped on some new boards and was rescinded after a month or so because they made the dumb move of removing Zen 2 support. I've also seen PCIe support conflicts on older A320 boards after updating for a newer processor. It's also possible the slot could be damaged or contaminated with dust or something.

Edited October 24, 2022 by An0maly_76
Revised, more info

[Rafael brds]

12 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

Uninstalling drivers is not the same as reseating the GPU, which involves opening the cabinet, preferably physically removing the GPU, cleaning with compressed air or vacuum, then reinstalling it.

 

If doing that does not work, you might look in your BIOs to see if there's an option to default to IGP that might have gotten reset. I'm repurposing an old H61 / LGA1155 machine right now that has a video options setting with IGP, PCI, or AUTO settings, integrated, GPU, or auto-detect, respectively. It's possible if your board has such a setting that it might have gotten scrambled and defaulted to the integrated graphics.

 

One other thing, have there been any recent BIOS updates or other hardware changes? BIOS revisions sometimes contain flubs that create unintentional ill effects. MSI just recently released a beta that shipped on some new boards and was rescinded after a month or so because they made the dumb move of removing Zen 2 support. I've also seen PCIe support conflicts on older A320 boards after updating for a newer processor.

Hey, no , no updates have been made on this computer, the only update i do is gpu updates, on BIOS i dont even have an options to choose default graphics it just changes automaticly to the igpu if no PCI express gpu is found.

The question is, if my GT 1030 is installed on PCI express, and igpu is the only One outputting image the computer thinks GT 1030 is not connected on PCI, but the fan still spinning it just dont display.

Tried to reset CMOS, didnt worked, tried cleaning gpu still doesnt work.

The computer been working with no hardware changes ir movings from a place to another, it was just sat on my table for 6+ months with this GT 1030 and suddently from yesterday to today it stopped displaying.

[An0maly_76]

GPU updates? I'm not sure a GT1030 really requires updates, unless you're talking about driver updates. I'm not aware these have a flashable BIOS. However, it IS possible to brick a GPU with a failed BIOS flash if that is a factor. That said, the Lenovo I'm wrestling with seems to want to default to IGP if VGA / DVI port is connected. It is possible your GT1030 is dead, but if it's not that old, I'd suspect another issue.

 

EDITED:

Just off the cuff, and I'm not sure this would apply to your processor, but AM4s (I'm thinking yours is an FM2+) have been known to have issues with RAM stability. I haven't confirmed it yet, but I believe this may have been a factor in a previous rig shutting down and refusing to power on. In addition to booting with the GT1030 it came with, but not the GTX1650 I was upgrading to. It was also neurotic after the RMA. I now know the RAM used was not QVL'd for the board and today registers two of the same DIMM at different speeds, which it should not do.

 

So if you have more than one DIMM, you might try with a single DIMM by itself and see if the problem can be isolated to a flaky DIMM. I had a kit in my 5900X that it did NOT like and it drove me nuts for months. One of the issues was a random start or POST failure with no video. Of course, with no video and no debug light, impossible to tell. So, just a thought. A flaky or failing DIMM might also cause something like this.

Edited October 24, 2022 by An0maly_76
Revised, more info

[Rafael brds]

15 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

GPU updates? I'm not sure a GT1030 really requires updates, unless you're talking about driver updates. I'm not aware these have a flashable BIOS. However, it IS possible to brick a GPU with a failed BIOS flash if that is a factor. That said, the Lenovo I'm wrestling with seems to want to default to IGP if VGA / DVI port is connected. It is possible your GT1030 is dead, but if it's not that old, I'd suspect another issue.

 

Just off the cuff, and I'm not sure this would apply to your processor, but AM4s (I'm thinking yours is an FM2+) have been known to have issues with RAM stability. I haven't confirmed it yet, but I believe this may have been a factor in a previous rig shutting down and refusing to power on, as well as being neurotic after the RMA.

 

So if you have more than one DIMM, you might try with a single DIMM by itself and see if the problem can be isolated to a flaky DIMM. I had a kit in my 5900X that it did NOT like and it drove me nuts for months. One of the issues was a random start or POST failure with no video. Of course, with no video and no debug light, impossible to tell. So, just a thought. A flaky or failing DIMM might also cause something like this.

Only drivers updates were made on my gpu, as of the RAM problem it isnt the case because i've tried to Change and replace for new ones and still the gpu aint displaying.

I can only get image when plugging HDMI onto igpu , on GT 1030 the HDMI cable dont display any image, the GT 1030 is pretty easy as it is a plug and play device. 

The only thing i've installed extra was its drivers, as for the rest its a default PC setup. 

I've remembered now, my Samsung monitor had a driver update but if my igpu which has its default drivers installed works my GT 1030 should work too.

[An0maly_76]

7 minutes ago, Rafael brds said:

Only drivers updates were made on my gpu, as of the RAM problem it isnt the case because i've tried to Change and replace for new ones and still the gpu aint displaying.

I can only get image when plugging HDMI onto igpu , on GT 1030 the HDMI cable dont display any image, the GT 1030 is pretty easy as it is a plug and play device. 

The only thing i've installed extra was its drivers, as for the rest its a default PC setup. 

I've remembered now, my Samsung monitor had a driver update but if my igpu which has its default drivers installed works my GT 1030 should work too.

Yeah, source shouldn't matter for a monitor driver update. I can only surmise that either the PCIe port is somehow damaged or compromised, or the GT1030 is indeed dead. The only way to know for sure is to put it in another board or put another GPU in your board. A shop might be willing to test the GPU for you to confirm.

Edited October 24, 2022 by An0maly_76
Revised, more info

[CaptainDarkstar42]

1 hour ago, Rafael brds said:

Dont have another computer and i have only 1 PCI express x16 on my motherboard 

What happens when you go to the BIOS, does it show any active card at all? 

Also, what happens when you look at the GPU in device manager?

 

[Rafael brds]

3 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

Yeah, source shouldn't matter for a monitor driver update. I can only surmise that either the PCIe port is somehow damaged or compromised, or the GT1030 is indeed dead. The only way to know for sure is to put it in another board or put another GPU in your board. A shop might be willing to test the GPU for you to confirm.

GPUs fan still works and from yesterday to today i cant believe its either One of those but it wouldnt hurt to try.

[Rafael brds]

Just now, CaptainDarkstar42 said:

What happens when you go to the BIOS, does it show any active card at all? 

Also, what happens when you look at the GPU in device manager?

 

Device manager doesnt show anything because PC thinks gpu is not connected to PCI express, but the fan spins.

When on BIOS it shows igpu is on but normally with gpu connected BIOS hides igpu settings

[Rafael brds]

13 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

Yeah, source shouldn't matter for a monitor driver update. I can only surmise that either the PCIe port is somehow damaged or compromised, or the GT1030 is indeed dead. The only way to know for sure is to put it in another board or put another GPU in your board. A shop might be willing to test the GPU for you to confirm.

I've just picked my old AMD r5 235 from my mom's house to try the PCI express Lane ill update with results when i get home.

[CaptainDarkstar42]

14 minutes ago, Rafael brds said:

Device manager doesnt show anything because PC thinks gpu is not connected to PCI express, but the fan spins.

When on BIOS it shows igpu is on but normally with gpu connected BIOS hides igpu settings

Ok, with the GPU installed into the PCIe slot and the HDMI/DisplayPort/whatever connected to the iGPU, what does the BIOS show about the card, if anything?  With that same set up, does the GPU show up in device manager?

[Rafael brds]

28 minutes ago, CaptainDarkstar42 said:

Ok, with the GPU installed into the PCIe slot and the HDMI/DisplayPort/whatever connected to the iGPU, what does the BIOS show about the card, if anything?  With that same set up, does the GPU show up in device manager?

It shows only igpu settings on BIOS and it doesnt appear on device manager.

[Rafael brds]

3 hours ago, An0maly_76 said:

Yeah, source shouldn't matter for a monitor driver update. I can only surmise that either the PCIe port is somehow damaged or compromised, or the GT1030 is indeed dead. The only way to know for sure is to put it in another board or put another GPU in your board. A shop might be willing to test the GPU for you to confirm.

So ive tried my old gpu and it worked normally, now i have to figure out why and how can i revive my GT 1030.

[An0maly_76]

14 minutes ago, Rafael brds said:

So ive tried my old gpu and it worked normally, now i have to figure out why and how can i revive my GT 1030.

Look at it this way, at least it's not a more expensive 1660 or 20x0 / 30x0 series. Cheaper to replace.

[Rafael brds]

1 hour ago, An0maly_76 said:

Look at it this way, at least it's not a more expensive 1660 or 20x0 / 30x0 series. Cheaper to replace.

Should i try to install an older version of Windows? As the NVIDIA driver installer says its not suported

 by my 20h1 version build 190** win 10? 

Cant actually be buying GPUs Every 6 months.

[An0maly_76]

1 hour ago, Rafael brds said:

Should i try to install an older version of Windows? As the NVIDIA driver installer says its not suported

 by my 20h1 version build 190** win 10? 

Cant actually be buying GPUs Every 6 months.

It couldn't hurt. But if your GT1030 is dead, might be a good reason to upgrade to a 1650 or better. If the GT1030 was under warranty, however, you can certainly start an RMA and run your old one in the meantime. As an aside, you might want to have an electrician check your building / house wiring for issues that could be causing electrical noise and such, as this can cause PSU fluctuations that can lead to such failures.

[Rafael brds]

11 hours ago, An0maly_76 said:

It couldn't hurt. But if your GT1030 is dead, might be a good reason to upgrade to a 1650 or better. If the GT1030 was under warranty, however, you can certainly start an RMA and run your old one in the meantime. As an aside, you might want to have an electrician check your building / house wiring for issues that could be causing electrical noise and such, as this can cause PSU fluctuations that can lead to such failures.

Well, after updating Windows to 20h2 and trying the GT 1030 again after a clean Windows install i manager to make it work again tnx for all the suporte.

[An0maly_76]

3 hours ago, Rafael brds said:

Well, after updating Windows to 20h2 and trying the GT 1030 again after a clean Windows install i manager to make it work again tnx for all the suporte.

Ah, yes... The good, old, ever-changing dumpster-fire goodness that is Windows...  Haven't seen Windows update do this sort of thing before, though. Usually when it turns out to be a software issue, it is a device driver.

[Sarra]

23 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

Ah, yes... The good, old, ever-changing dumpster-fire goodness that is Windows...  Haven't seen Windows update do this sort of thing before, though. Usually when it turns out to be a software issue, it is a device driver.

Windows IS a software issue. o.x;