Time for My First BFPC!

[Clare]

Budget (including currency): 5500 and under

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, Python, C++, Vr and Regular games.

Other details Here is my parts list please let me know if I forgot anything or anything I could do better.

 

Case: Tower 900 = $264
Cpu: 13900k = $695
Ram: G.Skill Trident Z5 = $270
Gpu: Zotac 3090 = $980 X2
Psu: Evga 1600 t2 = $380
MB: MAXIMUS Z690 HERO = $650
Storage: SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2Tb = $220

Water cooling
Pump1: Alphacool 13324 Eisball = $200
Pump2: Bykski PC DDC Pump = $250
Motor: Alphacool 13294 Eispumpe VPP755 = $80
Gpu Block: EKWB EK-Quantum Vector Trinity = $142
Cpu Block: Thermaltake Pacific MX2 = $180
Hardline: Thermaltake V-Tubler PETG Tube = $30

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2TgJPX

[Dukesilver27-]

Please use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ for everyone's convenience.

[Clare]

1 minute ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Please use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ for everyone's convenience.

sure iI can post for most of the parts the only reason I didnt was because it doesnt show any waterloop items

 

[Raudi_]

1 GPU will be better for gaming, unless you have workloads for using both GPU's

 

[Clare]

1 minute ago, Raudi_ said:

1 GPU will be better for gaming, unless you have workloads for using both GPU's

 

I plan to game on one but with the other use for streaming or rendering while I play games at the same time

[Dedayog]

6 minutes ago, Clare said:

Budget (including currency): 5500 and under

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, Python, C++, Vr and Regular games.

Other details Here is my parts list please let me know if I forgot anything or anything I could do better.

 

Case: Tower 900 = $264
Cpu: 13900k = $695
Ram: G.Skill Trident Z5 = $270
Gpu: Zotac 3090 = $980 X2
Psu: Evga 1600 t2 = $380
MB: MAXIMUS Z690 HERO = $650
Storage: SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2Tb = $220

Water cooling
Pump1: Alphacool 13324 Eisball = $200
Pump2: Bykski PC DDC Pump = $250
Motor: Alphacool 13294 Eispumpe VPP755 = $80
Gpu Block: EKWB EK-Quantum Vector Trinity = $142
Cpu Block: Thermaltake Pacific MX2 = $180
Hardline: Thermaltake V-Tubler PETG Tube = $30

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2TgJPX

Why not a 4090?   It's about 2x 3090's from what I have read.

 

Parts for the PC vs parts for the water cooling, easier to look at one then the other.

 

Hero motherboard.... you going L2N?  Cuz that board isn't worth buying for what you're doing.

 

 

[Birblover12]

11 minutes ago, Clare said:

Budget (including currency): 5000 and under

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, Python, C++, Vr and Regular games.

Other details Here is my parts list please let me know if I forgot anything or anything I could do better.

 

Case: Tower 900 = $264
Cpu: 13900k = $695
Ram: G.Skill Trident Z5 = $270
Gpu: Zotac 3090 = $980 X2
Psu: Evga 1600 t2 = $380
MB: MAXIMUS Z690 HERO = $650
Storage: SAMSUNG 980 PRO 2Tb = $220

Water cooling
Pump1: Alphacool 13324 Eisball = $200
Pump2: Bykski PC DDC Pump = $250
Motor: Alphacool 13294 Eispumpe VPP755 = $80
Gpu Block: EKWB EK-Quantum Vector Trinity = $142
Cpu Block: Thermaltake Pacific MX2 = $180
Hardline: Thermaltake V-Tubler PETG Tube = $30

 

Why would you get 2 RTX 3090's? There's very little use last I checked in the modern era for SLI. Only a handful of games & applications even support SLI anymore. If you really want two GPUs, I believe it's becoming more common to have one Nvidia GPU and one AMD GPU so you can have the best of both company's features. So, something like an RX 6900 XT would do nicely if you wanted to go down that route. Or, you could just get the new RTX 4090.

 

Personally, I'd opt for a bit more storage, as 2 TBs can go rather quickly, especially when you have massive blender projects and such. You can get a few SATA SSDs and use them in Raid one, or alternatively just a crap ton of HDD storage if you really want it.

 

 

 

[Clare]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Why not a 4090?   It's about 2x 3090's from what I have read.

 

Parts for the PC vs parts for the water cooling, easier to look at one then the other.

 

Hero motherboard.... you going L2N?  Cuz that board isn't worth buying for what you're doing.

 

 

the 4090 at best will be 1600 where if i buy 2 3090s its around 19-1800 and I get far more vram for rendering. Im not sure what you mean about the mother board can you explain.

[Zando_]

Just now, Clare said:

get far more vram for rendering

They don't pool VRAM. 3090s can use an NVLink connector for high bandwidth SLI, but they do not use actual NVLink features like a quadro.

[Clare]

1 minute ago, Birblover12 said:

Why would you get 2 RTX 3090's? There's very little use last I checked in the modern era for SLI. Only a handful of games & applications even support SLI anymore. If you really want two GPUs, I believe it's becoming more common to have one Nvidia GPU and one AMD GPU so you can have the best of both company's features. So, something like an RX 6900 XT would do nicely if you wanted to go down that route. Or, you could just get the new RTX 4090.

 

Personally, I'd opt for a bit more storage, as 2 TBs can go rather quickly, especially when you have massive blender projects and such. You can get a few SATA SSDs and use them in Raid one., or alternatively just a crap ton of HDD storage if you really want it.

 

 

 

the board supports 3 m.2 so i was gonna get 3 in the end. also do you think it would be better to render with a amd card over a nvidia for blender bc my plan is to not use sli but to have 2 separate cards doing 2 different things

[Raudi_]

Just now, Clare said:

the 4090 at best will be 1600 where if i buy 2 3090s its around 19-1800 and I get far more vram for rendering. Im not sure what you mean about the mother board can you explain.

The Hero has specific features catering more to XOC/Subzero. I would look more towards Something like the Asrock Steel Ledgen or even the EVGA boards

[Clare]

1 minute ago, Zando_ said:

They don't pool VRAM. 3090s can use an NVLink connector for high bandwidth SLI, but they do not use actual NVLink features like a quadro.

so then if i had a nvlink i could not use there vram together to render faster?

[Zando_]

Just now, Clare said:

so then if i had a nvlink i could not use there vram together to render faster?

Yep. The NVLink connector just acts as an higher-than-high-bandwidth (as they already made "high bandwidth" SLI bridges for older cards) SLI bridge, it doesn't enable NVLink features like VRAM pooling.

[Birblover12]

1 minute ago, Clare said:

the board supports 3 m.2 so i was gonna get 3 in the end. also do you think it would be better to render with a amd card over a nvidia for blender bc my plan is to not use sli but to have 2 separate cards doing 2 different things

iirc Nvidia cards are better for rendering blender stuff, that's not to say AMD's offerings are complete garbage, but I believe Nvidia's GPUs are a bit more optimized for that kind of work atm.

[Clare]

Just now, Zando_ said:

Yep. The NVLink connector just acts as an higher-than-high-bandwidth (as they already made "high bandwidth" SLI bridges for older cards) SLI bridge, it doesn't enable NVLink features like VRAM pooling.

oooooohhh! so then as i understand it more vram is good for rendering would it be better to jus tgo 4090 or 3090 plus 7900xt or something else for best render times

 

[Zando_]

Just now, Clare said:

oooooohhh! so then as i understand it more vram is good for rendering would it be better to jus tgo 4090 or 3090 plus 7900xt or something else for best render times

 

Looks like uh... 2 3090s might still be faster, but barely, and drawing nigh double the power: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4090-24GB-Content-Creation-Review-2374/

The single 4090 looks to be consistently very close to 2x 3090s in various render applications (in blender specifically it's almost double a single 3090, meaning it would closely match 2 of them).

[Clare]

6 minutes ago, Raudi_ said:

The Hero has specific features catering more to XOC/Subzero. I would look more towards Something like the Asrock Steel Ledgen or even the EVGA boards

im looking at the boards now, looking at the asrock it seems a little lesser so being less usb ports, no code display. im truely looking for something that is more if that makes sense.

[Raudi_]

Just now, Clare said:

im looking at the boards now, looking at the asrock it seems a little lesser so being less usb ports, no code display. im truely looking for something that is more if that makes sense.

How many USB for the rear i/o do you need? 

[Clare]

1 minute ago, Zando_ said:

Looks like uh... 2 3090s might still be faster, but barely, and drawing nigh double the power: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4090-24GB-Content-Creation-Review-2374/

The single 4090 looks to be consistently very close to 2x 3090s in various render applications (in blender specifically it's almost double a single 3090, meaning it would closely match 2 of them).

ok so then im my wants for the computer would it not be better then to have 2 3090s so i can game on one and render with the other in sometimes and render with both other times?

[Clare]

2 minutes ago, Raudi_ said:

How many USB for the rear i/o do you need? 

well not to sounds crazy but 2 keyboards, 2 mice, headphones, focusrite for my mic, and console controller for games is normal, vr headset, my cintiq

[Raudi_]

1 minute ago, Clare said:

well not to sounds crazy but 2 keyboards, 2 mice, headphones, focusrite for my mic, and console controller for games is normal, vr headset, my cintiq

Honestly with that much have you considered looking at HEDT platforms? I know there isn't much from either side, but my experience with 12th gen is the boards/windows gets really un happy with to many USB devices. 

[Clare]

Just now, Raudi_ said:

Honestly with that much have you considered looking at HEDT platforms? I know there isn't much from either side, but my experience with 12th gen is the boards/windows gets really un happy with to many USB devices. 

absolutely agree with windows not being a fan of so many things pluged in i have even go to the point of the computer out right not accepting more usb devices in the past

[Clare]

3 minutes ago, Raudi_ said:

Honestly with that much have you considered looking at HEDT platforms? I know there isn't much from either side, but my experience with 12th gen is the boards/windows gets really un happy with to many USB devices. 

Are you talking about a Threadripper is that really an option with the ones i saw being 5 grand on their own

[Raudi_]

Just now, Clare said:

Are you talking about a Threadripper is that really an option with the ones i saw being 5 grand on their own

Could go X299 as well, or older older Threadripper, I've always loved intels HEDT platform.

[Clare]

Just now, Raudi_ said:

Could go X299 as well, or older older Threadripper, I've always loved intels HEDT platform.

The words older older and new pc kinda got me scared i still plan to use this as a daily driver