nvme vs ssd?

[OGKRG]

Is Samsung still king of SSD's? I loved my EVO's and I've owned both NVME and SSD. Going to get another SSD for my laptop currently and slap it in the new rig I'm building also. Real question, is there a real difference between NVME vs SSD? When I owned both I really didn't notice a difference, maybe placebo. I had Windows on my NVME and games on my SSD.

[LIGISTX]

3 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

Is Samsung still king of SSD's? I loved my EVO's and I've owned both NVME and SSD. Going to get another SSD for my laptop currently and slap it in the new rig I'm building also. Real question, is there a real difference between NVME vs SSD? When I owned both I really didn't notice a difference, maybe placebo. I had Windows on my NVME and games on my SSD.

NVMe is a type of SSD interface. I think you mean NVMe vs a SATA 2.5" SSD?

 

But no, honestly not a huge difference. These days NVMe costs about the same, so why not get that since it is faster... In the future as games may start loading textures in directly from disc like PS5 and new xbox, an NVMe SSD may actually provide a significant gaming improvement. 

[svmlegacy]

3 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

NVME vs SSD

All NVMe's are SSD's, but not all SSD's are NVMe.

 

NVMe is the type of interface the SSD uses. This requires NVMe support in BIOS, and a PCIe enabled M.2 port. The common alternative SSD solution is SATA, which requires it's own support.

 

Depending on what you do, you may not notice the difference between a SATA SSD and an NVMe SSD.

[OGKRG]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

NVMe is a type of SSD interface. I think you mean NVMe vs a SATA 2.5" SSD?

 

But no, honestly not a huge difference. These days NVMe costs about the same, so why not get that since it is faster... In the future as games may start loading textures in directly from disc like PS5 and new xbox, an NVMe SSD may actually provide a significant gaming improvement. 

Right! Well currently in my laptop I can only use an SSD not the NVMe plug like my old AORUS M board. 

Just now, svmlegacy said:

All NVMe's are SSD's, but not all SSD's are NVMe.

 

NVMe is the type of interface the SSD uses. This requires NVMe support in BIOS, and a PCIe enabled M.2 port. The common alternative SSD solution is SATA, which requires it's own support.

 

Depending on what you do, you may not notice the difference between a SATA SSD and an NVMe SSD.

Ya in my old Ryzen rig I honestly didn't notice a difference from booting windows 10 NVMe vs SSD, both Samsungs, the NVMe was an EVO 970 and the SSD was an EVO 870

[GuiltySpark_]

Just now, OGKRG said:

Right! Well currently in my laptop I can only use an SSD not the NVMe plug

 

Just to help further clear this up. As was said above, both of what you're describing are SSD's. 

 

SSD's come in two physically different form factors being 2.5" and M.2. 2.5" SSD's, in the consumer space, are generally SATA based in its connection protocol. Meanwhile, physical M.2 based SSD's can both be SATA based or NVMe. 

 

From what you're describing, your laptop can only accept 2.5" SATA based SSD's and does not have an M.2 connector. What laptop is this?

[BondiBlue]

3 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

Ya in my old Ryzen rig I honestly didn't notice a difference from booting windows 10 NVMe vs SSD, both Samsungs, the NVMe was an EVO 970 and the SSD was an EVO 870

Both of those are SSDs. You're confusing NVMe, M.2 and SATA. M.2 is the connector, and it can accept (depending on the board and computer) either a SATA SSD or an NVMe SSD. A 2.5" SATA SSD is SATA only. 

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, OGKRG said:

Right! Well currently in my laptop I can only use an SSD not the NVMe plug like my old AORUS M board. 

Ya in my old Ryzen rig I honestly didn't notice a difference from booting windows 10 NVMe vs SSD, both Samsungs, the NVMe was an EVO 970 and the SSD was an EVO 870

They are both SSD's... NVMs SSD vs SATA SSD is the difference. NVMe is an interface as is SATA.

 

SSD stands for Solid State Drive, which refers to the NAND flash on the drives vs a harddrive which uses magnets/voltage potential and spinning discs.

 

So while we do know what you are trying to say, just trying to help you use the correct terms to 1) avoid confusion in the future 2) understand the technology a little better

[OGKRG]

2 minutes ago, rickeo said:

Just to help further clear this up. As was said above, both of what you're describing are SSD's. 

 

SSD's come in two physically different form factors being 2.5" and M.2. 2.5" SSD's, in the consumer space, are generally SATA based in its connection protocol. Meanwhile, physical M.2 based SSD's can both be SATA based or NVMe. 

 

From what you're describing, your laptop can only accept 2.5" SATA based SSD's and does not have an M.2 connector. What laptop is this?

Alienware 17

[OGKRG]

13 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

They are both SSD's... NVMs SSD vs SATA SSD is the difference. NVMe is an interface as is SATA.

 

SSD stands for Solid State Drive, which refers to the NAND flash on the drives vs a harddrive which uses magnets/voltage potential and spinning discs.

 

So while we do know what you are trying to say, just trying to help you use the correct terms to 1) avoid confusion in the future 2) understand the technology a little better

Ya sorry I'm confusing the two haha. My laptop is 2.5". Is Sara phasing out tho. I mean I could get a 2.5" rn and then get a m.2 later on. I ran both in my Ryzen rig just fine. 

[BondiBlue]

Just now, OGKRG said:

My laptop is 2.5". Is Sara phasing out tho.

SATA has been here a long time and it isn't going anywhere in a hurry. It's still used on basically every consumer mechanical hard drive, and there's no real need (other than speed) to switch to something else. You don't have to worry about that when buying a SATA drive. 

[OGKRG]

3 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

SATA has been here a long time and it isn't going anywhere in a hurry. It's still used on basically every consumer mechanical hard drive, and there's no real need (other than speed) to switch to something else. You don't have to worry about that when buying a SATA drive. 

So a SATA SSD rn wouldn't be a dumb buy until I can get another M.2?

 

Looking at getting a 500gb of this.

 

Limited-time deal: Samsung 870 EVO 500GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-77E500B/AM) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QBMD6P4/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_154YEC0AD5KVWH90BMY3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

Had a 250gb last year and it was solid even with the Samsung speed boost thing.

[BondiBlue]

4 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

So a SATA SSD rn wouldn't be a dumb buy until I can get another M.2?

No, not at all. 

4 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

Looking at getting a 500gb of this.

 

Limited-time deal: Samsung 870 EVO 500GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-77E500B/AM) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QBMD6P4/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_154YEC0AD5KVWH90BMY3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

Had a 250gb last year and it was solid even with the Samsung speed boost thing.

That's very expensive for a 500GB SSD. I'd get this instead:

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX500-500GB-NAND-Internal/dp/B0786QNS9B/

 

It's just as great of a drive, and it's a lot cheaper. 

[OGKRG]

7 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

No, not at all. 

That's very expensive for a 500GB SSD. I'd get this instead:

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX500-500GB-NAND-Internal/dp/B0786QNS9B/

 

It's just as great of a drive, and it's a lot cheaper. 

Oh shit that is a deal! I love Samsung so maybe I am bias. Is that prob the cheapest best budget 2.5" SSD on the market? Thank you you're the best

[BondiBlue]

2 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

Oh shit that is a deal! I love Samsung so maybe I am bias. Is that prob the cheapest best budget 2.5" SSD on the market? Thank you you're the best

The Crucial MX500 isn't really a budget SSD. It's just as nice as the Samsung 870 EVO. I have several MX500s, and they perform just as well as my Samsung 860 and 870 EVOs do.