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So after a while of trying to find a good deal on a rtx 2080 laptp with a 240hz screen, I have found the sliger sm580 and a small vesa monitor stand. So I can make the dimensions work with this small desk. Here is the current part list.
 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $499.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $219.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $106.99 @ Amazon
Storage Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Corsair
Storage Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GM 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply $90.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140 mm Fan $27.95 @ Amazon
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140 mm Fan $27.95 @ Amazon
Monitor Gigabyte AORUS KD25F 24.5" 1920x1080 240 Hz Monitor $409.99 @ Newegg
Custom EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER FTW3 HYDRO COPPER GAMING Video Card, 08G-P4-3289-KR, 8GB GDDR6, RGB LED, iCX2 Technology, Metal Backplate $883.98 @ Newegg
Custom Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition TKL Tenkeyless Gaming Keyboard: Linear Optical Switches - Instant Actuation - Customizable Chroma RGB Lighting - Programmable Macro Functionality - Matte Bla $129.99 @ Amazon
Custom SM580 Purchased For $310.00
Custom pump/res $130.00
Custom cpu block $74.99
Custom 120mm rad $31.99
Custom 15mm fan $30.00
Custom 280mm rad $80.99
Custom fittings $26.64
Custom fittings x2 $10.00
Custom tubing $14.99
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $3356.89
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $3346.89
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-22 17:06 EDT-0400  


The custom parts all have the links posted if you go to the build via https://pcpartpickercom/list/r9DGf9 I left out the (.) anyway with this out of the way I am in need of confirmation/help in planning this build. I have done the math according to jayz2cents about having 1 x 240mm x 30mm rad per component you plan on overclocking and 1 x 120mm x 30mm rad per component at stock speeds. Doing the math a 45mm 280mm rad plus the 27mm 120mm rad is roughly a tad bit higher in radiator surface area than 2 240mm x 30mm rads. Please weigh in and let me know i'm correct in the cooling capacity of this current loop. Currently I need conformation on my current pump/res as I'm having trouble verifying if there is room in the case for it. If not do you have any other suggestions vs just using the top rad as a res or a t junction/valve. if there is a combo cpu block that would probably work. Also did i Choose the correct fittings? Thanks again I'm fairly new to watercooling but Very confident. Thanks for the replies

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Can you fit a 45mm thick rad with a standard 25mm thick fans on the top? It looks the case can only support 30-35mm thick radiator.

 

Also, even with 27mm thick rad and 15mm slim fan, the space looks really tight at the bottom. Better make sure before you buy.

 

Also, you don't want to use those Noctua 3000rpm fans. 2000 rpm is more than you will ever use.

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A single 280mm rad will not be able to handle the CPU and GPU both at full load. However, very few apps will use both simultaneously. Most of the time, one is working hard, the other one isn't doing much. In games, the CPU barely hit more than 50%, because you have the 3900X. So, in a nut shell, a single 280mm rad will handle both 2080 and 3900X just fine.

 

You can get away without that 120mm rad at the bottom.

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10 hours ago, Deli said:

A single 280mm rad will not be able to handle the CPU and GPU both at full load. However, very few apps will use both simultaneously. Most of the time, one is working hard, the other one isn't doing much. In games, the CPU barely hit more than 50%, because you have the 3900X. So, in a nut shell, a single 280mm rad will handle both 2080 and 3900X just fine.

 

You can get away with that 120mm rad at the bottom.

get away is in without a fan or get away as in due away with the 120mm rad all together. Also the stop clearance total for rad mounting is 73mm total including a fan. Noctua fans are 25mm meaning a 45mm rad will fit. I  have the 3000rpm fans due to my environment. Like you said I will hardly have them run at 3000 rpm but where I leave (i.E. in barracks) i dont have control over my heat or a/c. Sometimes its 69F and sometimes its 80F it just depends. What are your thoughts on fittings. Should I buy some right angle fittings? And at this price bracket would it make sense to just jump up to a 2080ti?

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"The bottom of the SM580 does support 140mm fans by default.

We have seen customers fit slim 240mm radiators down there(fans DO NOT fit with a slim rad), but it’s not officially supported.

 

I’ve never seen a slim 280mm in the bottom of our case, and again, it’s not officially supported."

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51 minutes ago, TRraven said:

get away is in without a fan or get away as in due away with the 120mm rad all together. Also the stop clearance total for rad mounting is 73mm total including a fan. Noctua fans are 25mm meaning a 45mm rad will fit. I  have the 3000rpm fans due to my environment. Like you said I will hardly have them run at 3000 rpm but where I leave (i.E. in barracks) i dont have control over my heat or a/c. Sometimes its 69F and sometimes its 80F it just depends. What are your thoughts on fittings. Should I buy some right angle fittings? And at this price bracket would it make sense to just jump up to a 2080ti?

Ah, I don't know your system will endure high ambient temperature. You probably need extra cooling than average.

 

I have the 140mm fans set at 1200rpm max for my system. Can't bear the noise. So I can't imagine anyone wants to turn the fans up more than 2000 rpm ever.

 

Thicker rad isn't always better. Because it will have higher resistance to air flow. Thicker rad is better if you can use push/pull, or with very good high static pressure fans running high speed(well, if you can bear the noise). It's up to you.

 

XSPC make some 20mm thick rad, the TX series. Together with slim 15mm fan. May be you can get them fit at the bottom.

 

Right angle fitting is always useful, even for soft tubing.

 

2080Ti or not, is totally up to you. If you want, why not.

 

I also have a 3900X with a 280mm rad in an SFF case, the Streacom DA2. If I overclock it to 4.3GHz, it runs at about 83C. That's is with 1200rpm fan speed.You can definitely knock 4-5C down if you spin up the fans more.

 

Optimum Tech(youtube channel) has a 9900K and a 2080Ti watercooled with only a 240mm rad(30mm thick) in Ghost S1 case. Although he has to undervolt both to keep the temp and noise under control. Take a look at his channel. You may get some idea what to expect for your build.

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7 hours ago, Deli said:

Ah, I don't know your system will endure high ambient temperature. You probably need extra cooling than average.

 

I have the 140mm fans set at 1200rpm max for my system. Can't bear the noise. So I can't imagine anyone wants to turn the fans up more than 2000 rpm ever.

 

Thicker rad isn't always better. Because it will have higher resistance to air flow. Thicker rad is better if you can use push/pull, or with very good high static pressure fans running high speed(well, if you can bear the noise). It's up to you.

 

XSPC make some 20mm thick rad, the TX series. Together with slim 15mm fan. May be you can get them fit at the bottom.

 

Right angle fitting is always useful, even for soft tubing.

 

2080Ti or not, is totally up to you. If you want, why not.

 

I also have a 3900X with a 280mm rad in an SFF case, the Streacom DA2. If I overclock it to 4.3GHz, it runs at about 83C. That's is with 1200rpm fan speed.You can definitely knock 4-5C down if you spin up the fans more.

 

Optimum Tech(youtube channel) has a 9900K and a 2080Ti watercooled with only a 240mm rad(30mm thick) in Ghost S1 case. Although he has to undervolt both to keep the temp and noise under control. Take a look at his channel. You may get some idea what to expect for your build.

Thank you,  and I don't mind noise as I work in fan rooms fairly often and have to wear hearing protection, is the $400 worth the upgrade to the 2080ti?

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2 minutes ago, TRraven said:

Thank you,  and I don't mind noise as I work in fan rooms fairly often and have to wear hearing protection, is the $400 worth the upgrade to the 2080ti?

For 1080p monitor, I'd say no. 2080 can easily drive any game 150 FPS+. I know you will get a 240 Hz monitor. But do you really need 200 FPS+? Only you can answer the question.

 

On the other hand, you have a large budget of $3400. $400 extra to get a 2080Ti isn't such a big deal.

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2 hours ago, Deli said:

For 1080p monitor, I'd say no. 2080 can easily drive any game 150 FPS+. I know you will get a 240 Hz monitor. But do you really need 200 FPS+? Only you can answer the question.

 

On the other hand, you have a large budget of $3400. $400 extra to get a 2080Ti isn't such a big deal.

if you want a universal answer its always yes if you want every advantage possible.

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