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Budget (including currency): $US 2000 Country: United States Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Heavily modded Minecraft, 3D Modelling, streaming Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Is it a good idea to buy a new system now, or should I wait till the new hardware comes out later this year? I don't want the cutting edge stuff, I would buy the 12th gen CPU if I bought now, or should I wait till the 14th gen comes out and then buy the discounted 13th gen?

Hey there. Total newbie here to overclocking. I recently won a RAM kit through a giveaway (V-Color Skywalker Plus 64GB (32x2) 4400MHz 19-26-26-46) and want to put it into my PC. My current mobo (MSI MS-7B86 "B450 Gaming Plus") only supports OC up to 3466MHz. I was curious if any more experienced overclockers could give some recommendations on timing settings (outside of just clicking XMP) for my mobo? Would 3200 at a certain timing setting be better than maxing out to 3466? As you can tell, this will be a massive upgrade from what I had, but a bit overkill for the rest of my system. Haha. (Plans to upgrade mobo and CPU in the future) but for now would like the best performance I can get out of this new RAM. Any thoughts? Full PC Specs: CPU: Ryzen 3600X RAM: V-Color 64GB (32x2) @ 4400MHz (previously 16GB (8x2) @ 2666MHz) Mobo: MSI B450 Gaming Plus (MS-7B86) OS SSD: WD_Black SN850 500GB (+ other storage SSDs) GPU: GTX1650 Super PSU: 450W

Hey guys, I am in the middle of defining my new build and want to know how much RAM timings effect gaming performance on Ryzen 5000. I guess it could be the same as with Ryzen 3000? If someone could confirm this or have a current source, I'd be happy. I plan to use this: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $329.99 @ Adorama Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $129.99 @ Newegg Memory G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $144.99 @ Newegg Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $614.97 Mail-in rebates -$10.00 Total $604.97 Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-20 06:53 EDT-0400 I dont want to overclock anything but I want to try tightening the timings (if there is performance to be gained) since I use high quality memory. According to this the mobo will have difficulties going higher than 3600 Mhz but tightening timings should be okay, right? Additionally there seems to be a behavior that four sticks perform up to 10% better than just two according to Gamers Nexus. So my plan is to throw in another two trident z in a couple of years since I dont need that extra performance nor the capacity bonus right now. What do you guys think? Is Trident Z overkill and should I just go with cheaper CL18 modules for example or are tighter timings really worth the price when companioned with ryzen 5000? PS.: I want to use a RTX 3070 Ti later on. Thanks in advance

Hello to any1 reading this. I'm brand new to ltt forum, so i apologise if i'm doing something wrong. I have 2 sets of ddr ram: 2x8gb hyperx (HX436C17FB3AK2/16) & 2x8gb Memory D4 3200 16GB C16 GSkill RipV K2 2x8GB;1,35V,RipjawsV black,18 edit: just found this... ripjaws: F4-3200C16D-16GVKB yes, i know i should not be mixing ram but figured that if i dumb down hyperx to the speeds of ripjaws' set, it should fit well. do not ask why i have 2 different sets (seriously, a long story). is there any1 with a decent link on how to or possibly actually actively help me to match those things' timings? the basic 3200mhz 16-18-18-36 is insufficient... need help with the rest of the settings. mobo: msi x570-a pro cpu: ryzen 3900x edit(again): and yes, i DO need more ram. when building custom android OS, 16gb does not cut it. it crashes randomly. heck, even 24gb works (either on vm ubuntu or actual OS)... having 32gb@3200mhz would really come in handy and speed up the process.

Hello All, Ive been putting this off for far too long. In 2019 I bought a Asus Z390-E with an intel core i9 9900k and Gskill Trident Z RGB RAM. Unfortunately pcpartpicker.com did me dirty with the compatibility checker and the ram I bought was not on the QVL for the mobo. 2X 8GB sticks of G-Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-4266 F4-4266C19D-16GTZR. XMPI doesnt work, XMP II Doesnt Work Running latest Bios last released in 2021 I need your help setting up a manual profile with the timing for my RAM 19-19-19-39 @1.4V in the ASUS BIOS it gives me a bunch of different options more than the normal timings which is where I can't get things to sync up. So far the best stable RAM speed without BSOD's is a measly 3000Mhz out of 4266Mhz I will take a photo of the BIOS settings in timing in a few minutes.

Hi I am really confused on weather to upgrade my Ram. I am hoping someone can help me. Ram speed limit for my cpu is 2400 mhz. I have 2 x 4GB hyper fury 2666mhz with case latency of cl16. I am looking to upgrade to 2 x 8GB of KLEVV 8GB 2666MHz DDR4 with a case latency of cl19. My question is will the case latency of cl19 KLEVV 16GB 2400mhz affect gaming performance? Will I see notice a drastic difference in gaming performance between cl19 and cl 16 with the speed kept at 2400mhz? pc specs i3 9100f rx 570 8gb ram Thanks

Hi everyone, I have enabled XMP on my motherboard and it works fine (running at 3200 mhz like the box says it should), now what would happen if I lower the timings in the bios? Does this make it faster? Would it boot at all and is it safe to mess around with this? The timings the motherboard configured with XMP are in the screenshot I attached.

I was planning on upgrading my memory (Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL8 CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8) to 16GB, so I figured the obvious choice would be another kit, but I found out that it is no longer available in my country and on sites like amazon it is crazy expensive for me (around 100 bucks). It is also nowhere to be found in used markets, so I came up with some alternatives, but don't know what would be the best choice(would different timings cause problems or they can be set in the bios to the higher one etc.): CL7 kit for 32$ CMZ8GX3M2X16000C7R CL9 kit for 35$ CML8GX3M2A1600C9W Or sell my old one and buy a 2x8GB CL9 XMS3 kit for 64$

Alrighty, so I'm pretty new here (been signed up for a while, but only now really planning to build. So I have a build parted out on PCpart picker, which I think I'm happy with but would love advice on my selection. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($350.28 @ NCIX) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $7.23) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($186.43 @ NCIX) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($67.78 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: AMD 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $68.91) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.52 @ Newegg Canada) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($395.48 @ Amazon Canada) Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.68 @ NCIX) Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($112.98 @ Newegg Canada) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($149.14 @ PC Canada) Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($50.83 @ Memory Express) Monitor: AOC G2260VWQ6 21.5" 75Hz Monitor ($187.56 @ PC Canada) Total: $1743.82 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-11 12:01 EST-0500 I know some things are a little over powered for a 1080p gaming rig, but I'm also not planning any major upgrades in the near future (think more than 3-4 years) and if I do I figure I'll save up slowly and maybe in 3 years buy a new gpu. Are the parts I have going to hold up well long term or could I go cheaper? My gaming plans in the very short term won't be too taxing (I'm coming off a 2010 white macbook, which still runs!), but my plan is to slowly build up a good gaming library and maybe move into vr once the rift or vive go on sale. (I currently game on a PS4). My biggest dillemma is timing, as my wife and I are both upgrading and the plan was to give us each a limit of 2500 CAD. She's going to buy a macbook pro and I'm going to build a gaming pc and probably get a tablet or something small for some low end on the go gaming (think asus transformer windows edition to play CIV V on). The idea is that we can spend up to 2500 but whoever spends more the other gets the excess for spending money (hence me likely getting a low end tablet). We don't currently have the cash for us both to upgrade, we will likely save up the rest once our school debt is paid off. But we have enough that I can build my system, and we agreed that this would be best so if I see sales I can nab the parts. But since we both have old computers the idea would be that I wouldn't "use" mine until we both have our new computers (keeping things fair, I have no problem with this so don't focus on it please). My question is, should I buy this system now and build it/do all the tests to confirm everything works, then leave it till my wife can buy her system, or will prices drop in the future enough to warrant waiting (some good sales on these parts I think ,but what do I know, this is my first build!). I welcome any input and hope that you guys can help me make a decision here, as I'm looking forward to getting the chance to actually build a pc myself.

I got my vengeance lpx ddr4 3200Mhz timings to 14-13-13-31, I normally only see values that are equal or bigger than the first one on the other values my question is, is this normal and stable or should I set it to 14-14-14-31

I am using Trident Z F4-3000C16D-16GTZR which has tested timings of 16-18-18-38 at 1.35v.But , on my Strix B350 F board , I cannot get it past 2400mhz without changing things like timings or Voltage.I am able to set 2933mhz on myram.. but I have set timings to 18-18-18-38 at 1.35v and I can get a stable 2933mhz..Or , else I can keep the default timings but I have to get Dram voltage to like 1.38vSo which one is safer? 1.38v dram with 16-18-18-38 timings default OR1.35v with 18-18-18-38 timings

Greetings, I would like to try to avoid to universal question, but I need more infos or ideas. The main problem is that I have an old computer at the moment from 2011 (AMD Phenom II X6 1090T, Gigabyte GA-810A-UD3, 8GB DDR3 and GTX 260²). My Palit GTX 560Ti 2GB is broken since early 2016. So, Should I just buy a RX 480 8 GB (or equivalant) or buy a complete new system. 1. Budget & Location Germany so € aka. Euro. Budget is my biggest questionmark. I want the best (or very good) value system without having to buy a new system in 2 years or having to upgrade in 3 years. I don't think spending more than 1000 € is worth it, but I am not sure. 2. Aim My most common use of the system would be gaming and general browsing/media. Maybe some light PHREEQC/Modflow/3D Modelling work. Games: Dark Souls 1/2/3 Grim Dawn / Path of Exile Overwatch maybe Deus Ex Borderlands 1/2 Dota 2 / Cs Go 3. Monitors Current goal always 60FPS+ and if possible higher if one monitors with 75+ hz are affordable. Resolution is not that important for me (Currently on an ancient 1280x1024 60Hz). Will use an old monitor as second screen. 4. Peripherals None needed atm. Proabably going to run Windows 7 64-bit, but I have a copy. 5. Why are you upgrading? My Current system is 5 years old and I have the feeling a simple GPU and SSD upgrade won't be sufficient! Thank you in advance for input, LL

Hello, got a Ryzen 1600 recently with slow RAM and 8GB capacity. It is 2x4 GB sticks which I will replace. I am looking to upgrade to 16 GB, and wanted to know if you have any recommendations in regards to brands, speeds and timings.

So I'm wondering with a new build coming up how important are RAM timings. As we all know AMD said ddr4-3733 at c17 is the best but how much worse of I would be if i got this at cl18 or 19. Also I'm considering getting 3200 cl16 as the price here in Spain is nearly 50% lower so I just wonder if the double price for 3733 c17 is worth the cost? Thanks!

Hi. I'm gonna upgrade the RAM in my Lenovo Thinkpad E585 (Ryzen 5 2500U) laptop. The standard RAM that is installed right now is a single block of Samsung 8GB DDR4-2400 and according to CPU-Z the timing is 17-17-17-39. Is it necessary for the new ram to have the exact same timing? I was thinking of installing either of these: 1) Corsair Vengeance SO DDR4-2400 SODIMM 260 (2 x 8 GB - Dual channel) CL-16-16-16-39. 2) Kingston HyperX Impact DDR4-2400 SODIMM 260 (2 x 8 GB - Dual channel) CL-14-14-14-(tRAS?) So neither has the exact right timing, so don't know if they will work properly?

I will be building a pc within the next few weeks and with the new ryzen 1600 AF I've decided to base it around this and my already purchased RX5700. I have decided on 16gb of memory as it's the accepted minimum at this stage and I had a few questions. Since the 1600 AF is essentially Zen+, I'm assuming it treats memory in the same way meaning that around 3000/3200 is the best speed for it from what I can tell, can anyone confirm this? Secondly, there is currently a deal going on at amazon UK for 16gb of crucial ballistix sport Lt for around £50. There is a 3000MHZ CL15 kit that is slightly cheaper than a 3200MHZ CL16 kit and I have heard that latency is more important for ryzen, does anyone know which would really be better if it would make a difference at all? Or even if a different kit for a bit more would be worth it? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07MNJP6RW/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_apa_i_AngoEb77Y8RMN crucial memory for reference. I really am knew to this kind of thing so would be open to any other suggestions, thanks in advance.

Right now, in my rig I got 1 pair of corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R (on xmp 1600mhz cl8) 4GB and 1 pair of samsung M378B5173QH0-CK0 (base 1600mhz cl11) 4GB (total 16GB) With the samsung ram in the system, i cannot run xmp so i am stuck at cl11, but i can force my ram to run 1600 since corsair can run 1600 beside xmp. For me to be able to run xmp, i'd have to switch out the samsung ram, but my question is, do i need to use the same exact ram modules as corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R which is 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 OR could I get any type of ram (like kingston hyperx, crucial, etc.) that supports 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 and I could still run xmp just fine? I do not want to switch my entire ram config for a new 16gb kit one, not one of my options. Any help appreciated. I'd get the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R however I cant find it anywhere, i found one kit ages ago so i bought it, but getting another one is so hard, looked up my local shopping sites, ebay, chinese sites etc etc.

I have a question After going through the forum for some time I take that as long as the DRAM type like DDR3 and DDR4, and Timing are matching there shouldn't be too much of a issue. Speed will end up using the slowest of the mix. It will not be a average of the mix. Brands can be different Memory Size can be different. So Hypothetically if I were to buy something like this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148982 Ballistix 4GB Single stick DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Timing 16-16-16 CAS Latency 16 Voltage 1.2V Then later decide to get something like this : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233982 Corsair 8GB Single stick DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Timing 16-16-16-39 CAS Latency 16 Voltage 1.2V Now here's the question about the Timing The former has 16-16-16 as a timing but the latter is using 16-16-16-39 Will something like this considered a match in timing or not?

Hey guys, I'm looking at upgrading the RAM in my laptop but I have no idea what the different numbers mean. Could someone help me out? For the exact same price, I'm seeing: DDR3 1866 PC3L 14900 CAS Latency 11 DDR3 1600 PC3L 12800 CAS Latency 9 What do all these differences mean? Which one's better?

Does a CL 11 Ram mean it has a timing of 11-11-11-28?

Budget (including currency): AED 15000, around USD 4,000 (excluding TV) Country: UAE Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Browsing: Chrome, Brave Browser, will be YouTube and Netflix in 4K. Work: Microsoft Word, Excel, Teams, and Outlook Content Creation: Adobe Premiere, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator, Adobe After Effects Gaming: Borderlands 3, Doom Eternal, Overwatch Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Current build: PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b67qCL Parts will be bought from local physical stores or from www.amazon.ae with a Prime account, but if I can find some components in the USA which will be cheaper with shipping (I do have an American Amazon Prime account and I am signed up with a couple of international shipping services with some decent shipping rates across several weight classes), then I don't mind doing that. So I'm looking to upgrade my PC. Honestly, I don't need to, my current build is serving me fine for the light gaming and editing work I'm doing right now. Everyone's been raving about the AMD processors, so I figured why not go AMD? I was able to save a bit more money than usual during the lockdown and WFH, so this will probably be the only time in a while when I would be able to spend a lot of money on a top-notch setup. But, I want to make sure that I have a system that would handle any game or workload I might have to throw at it in the future. I am planning on launching a YouTube channel and a podcast, so will definitely be doing more editing work than I usually do. My aim is to: Future proof by getting the best I can now Get better gaming performance (plan on getting the 48-inch LG CX TV as a main display, so would be nice to get 120 fps at 4K on that) Get faster render times Once I upgrade, I plan to tinker around with my current PC, take it apart and put it back together as a hands-on way to learn building PCs on my own. It will then probably go to my dad to use for work. I still haven't grasped PC building (regardless of how many times I've watch Linus and team do it), so I attempted a build based on the basic knowledge I have but I'm not sure on what better choices would have been. Here's what I've assembled: PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/83cvBZ CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory Storage: Western Digital Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (From old build) - OS Storage: Western Digital Black NVMe 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive - For games Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive - For creative work (including Adobe install) Storage: Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (From old build) - Downloads and storage Storage: *Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (From old build) - Backup Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB ROG Strix Gaming Video Card Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Monitor: Wacom Cintiq 13HD (From old build) So here are my questions: Do I need to change anything in this build? Did I overdo it somewhere or miss something? Is now the right time to build a new PC? I know Nvidia is about to launch new cards soon, but now sure when that's going to happen. With all these components in mind, what would be a recommended case? I will not be building this myself, I'll have someone do it for me, but I need a nice looking case (no RGB-fest please!) that hopefully isn't monstrous, and down the line once I'm comfortable to start tinkering with it, I'll be upgrading it myself. Thank you all in advance! EDIT: Sorry guys, had the wrong PC Part Picker links, updated now.

Hey guys, So I recently built my dad a computer using the 8GB (2x4) kit of Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600mhz from his old computer and a new 16GB (2x8) kit of Patriot Viper DDR3 1866mhz. Initially we were just going to get another 8GB Corsair kit but we found the 16GB Viper kit on sale for the same price and we were just going to use that alone instead. But, we ended up just throwing it all in for a total of 24GB running at 1600mhz. It seems to operate fine as it's been a couple of weeks now; however, I was wondering what problems(if any) might incur as a result of using kits of different size, speed, and timings. Thank you!

Sorry for the story! Hello! I am fairly new to PC building and overclocking. I bought my PC from somebody and it has worked fine so far. I upgraded my RAM and put my PC inside of a new case. My PC boots and runs fine, however I have some issues. I can run games like Doom at 1440p smooth, however when I play esports titles like Fortnite or Rocket League, my game crashes. I thought it might be from streaming the esports titles or some issue with my specs. So I didn't use obs and even turned my settings down. I think it might be my ram compatibility/motherboard/processor issue. My temps are fine and my ram doesn't max out at all. Also, I can't run my ram at above 2133mhz or I will bsod on boot. Specs: CPU: Ryzen 7 1700 OC to 3.8ghz (currently at 3.2) GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW MOTHERBOARD: ASUS B350 PLUS RAM: 4x4GB G.SKILL RIPJAWS V 2400MHZ PSU: CORSAIR RM750X GOLD RATED I don't want to start buying stuff randomly because I don't have a big budget. I appreciate any help.

Hello, long time watcher of LTT, first time poster on the forums. If there is a thread of this type already please direct me to it. TL;DR: Purchased new build with Threadripper, didn't research enough on compatibility for RAM, now have unstable RAM at stock speed/timing. SPECS: Mobo: ASUS PRIME x399-A Proc: Ryzen Threadripper 1900x (Overclocked to 41.00 in BIOS, Voltage AUTO. Tested stable with RAM at default 2133mhz) RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x4 (16gb) Quad Channel (CMD16GX4M4C3200C16) Latency: 16-18-18-36 3200mhz CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 M.2: Samsung 960 EVO 250gb GPU: MSI Gaming X Trio 1080ti PSU: Corsair H1000i 1000w PC used for 1080p video editing, gaming, streaming. Symptoms: After installation, boots to windows without with default BIOS settings of 2133mhz. Upon booting to BIOS and turning on D.O.C.P 3200mhz, blue screens before windows loads to desktop. Troubleshooting / Overvolting at 3200mhz: 1.350v: Blue screen before desktop 1.355v: Boots to desktop, crashes in around 15 seconds 1.360v: Boots to desktop, Chrome crashes sometimes, other programs crash, but otherwise stays alive. Gaming crashes full system to blue screen. 1.365v: Boots to desktop, crashes in around 15 seconds 1.370v: Blue screen before desktop 1.375v: Boots to desktop, crashes in around 15 seconds 1.380v: Blue screen before desktop 1.385v: Blue screen before desktop 1.390v: Boots to desktop, crashes in 5-10 seconds 1.395v: Blue screen before desktop 1.400v. Boots to desktop, Apps crash but stays alive. Gaming crashes full system to blue screen. Troubleshooting / Overvolting at 2966mhz: Similar results to the above, none of which are stable Troubleshooting / Overvolting at 2800mhz STABLE @ 1.350v, No blue screens in sight So i am asking for a second pair of eyes and some advice on whether i should return the item, as it was just delivered yesterday, or play with it some more. I'd like to get the 3200mhz it's rated for but i do not have enough experience with overclocking / overvolting to push further. Should i change latency at all? Are there any settings i am missing besides just changing the AB, CD DRAM voltage? Is there a noticeable difference between 2800mhz and 3200mhz? Would i have better results using Dual Channel instead of the Quad channel the MOBO supports? Are there any other compatibility issues here i am missing other than manufacturer compatibility between RAM/CPU? Thank you for your time in reading this and i hope someone can provide some good advice.

So in my PC right now, I have 2 x 8gb of Corsair XMS3 ram, that are 9-9-9-24. I see a deal for the same 2 x 8gb sticks of XMS3 ram, but these new ones are 11-11-11-30. I have the room on my motherboard and it got me curious about whether adding 16gb of ram to my motherboard would be worth it if it lowers the overall performance to 11-11-11-30? Also, I am totally aware that 32gb of ram is overkill for gaming, but I also do photoshop, video editing, etc. Will I actually end up seeing decreased performance because the timing is worse, or better performance because of the doubled ram? Thanks.