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  1. Im going to be upgrading my pc ( dell vostro 3268) having a i5 7400 with 12 gb ram . I will upgrade it to 16gb ram but the problem is i dont know if i ahould buy the 1660super or the rtx 3050 6gb, the motherboard supports pcie 3.0 and since these 2 gpus are almost at the same price range im both confused and worried about bottleneck
  2. Hi everyone! I have a AS Steel legend B450M Mobo with pcie gen3 and I wanna know if it is possible to use rtx 4060 or rtx 4060 ti in with my mobo. And what about gtx 4070?
  3. Hi, I've just purchased a new MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI It has a PCIE 4.0 and a 3.0 x16 Slot. It also has 2 NVME Slots 4.0 and 3.0. I currently have 2 x 4.0 4TB NVME drives in my NVME 4.0 and 3.0 slots. And my GTX 1080 TI in my 4.0 x16 Slot. I was wondering whether it would be better to move my GPU to the 3.0 16x slot as its a 3.0 GPU. And put the 4.0 NVME in a PCIE adapter and put that in the 4.0 x16 slot. Is my logic sound on this or am I missing something, Thanks
  4. I have recently purchased MSI RTX 3060 gaming X and installed it on my MSI Z390 gaming edge AC motherboard. However, I installed the GPU in the second PCie slot which is PCie 3.0 x8 since the x16 slot is very close to my tower CPU cooler and putting the GPU in the x16 slot would almost make the GPU hit the CPU cooler. This I had to install my RTX 3060 in a PCie 3.0 x8 slot because of the fact that the x16 slot was very near to my huge tower style air cooler. I have not yet noticed huge performance drop but the card significantly heats up under load (around 70-75 degrees). I called MSI and they said put the card in x16 slot for performance gain but did not clarify the bandwidth constraints. I still have the following doubts: 1. Why the 3060 or 3070 is significantly overheating when put in x8 instead of x16? Is it because the card working harder to push the bandwidth constraints in x8? 2. Also is it okay to use the 3060/70 card in PCie 3.0 x8 slot instead of 3.0 x16 slot (incase x16 slot isn't available)? 3. Do PCie 3.0 x8 slot gets choked/saturated (because of limited bandwidth) by a 3060/3070 leading to a bottleneck? Does a 3060/3070 really need more than PCie 3.0 x8 (8 lanes) for only gaming? 4. Will this impact my hardware (the GPU) in anyways if I keep using the x8 slot only? Spec: Processor: i7 8700k Motherboard: MSI Z390 gaming edge AC CPU cooler: cooler master hyper 212 evo GPU: MSI RTX 3060 gamingX (plugged in PCie 3.0 x8 slot) PSU: Corsair RM 750
  5. I was just curios how would a top tier gpu perform in gaming/workload on a pci 4x4 (which should be equal to gen2x16) compare to a full gen3x16 or gen4x16. only benchmark i found where from 4090 on gen3 or 3070 on gen2/3. any links would be great i am just curious after watching a few yt vids. how much actual fps would someone lose by going so low
  6. Last few days I have been looking for a reliable & fast 2 TB NVMe M.2 SSD. I was eyeing the Samsung 990 Pro as I saw a decent deal on my favorite PC Part shop, however, after checking my motherboard I realized something; I have a B450 TOMAHAWK MAX which has a Gen 3 x4 M.2 Slot ("Turbo M.2: Delivering speeds up to 32 Gb/s using Gen3 x4") Is a 990 Pro really worth it for the price here (160euro, keep in mind I am in The Netherlands, so component prices are higher than in the US. That's normal) considering I will never be able to use its rated peak speeds anyway until I upgrade to a motherboard with Gen 4 (which I most likely won't for a few years, I think). So what other 2 TB (or 3/4 TB if they fit in my budget of 180euro) SSD's would be good for me? Please keep in mind that prices & availability can differ a lot in the Netherlands (e.g. Sabrent SSDs are either tough to find or way overpriced). I personally just use the NL version of PCPartPicker to check: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/ My use-case is mainly 3 things: - Software Development - Gaming - Graphic Design I am also buying a Akasa M.2 PCI-E SATA RGB LED (https://www.akasa.com.tw/search.php?seed=AK-PCCM2P-04) to put my old SSD's in (Currently have 1 in my MB M.2 Slot and 1 in a Akasa singular PCIE to M.2) All advice & tips are extremely welcome. Thanks in advance
  7. i need help finding a motherboard that is pcie gen 3 and lga 1155 i looked online but almost every chipset was 2.0 is it possible?
  8. As you can see from the images below. This card have just been bought 6 months ago. My very first removal of the card was about few weeks after the purchase of the pc build and I have seen 2 major scratches (red circle). After few months, I reseatted the graphics card again after cleaning the dust off the pc, the scratches have increased and as you can see from the B-Side of the PCIE lanes, all of them have minimal scratches and they're everywhere. The card is still working but I am very curious if this scratched pins are not the one giving me glitches and screen tearing in my games. Is the scratches caused by mounting pressure? Is it caused by often reseatting? Is it caused by the humidity inside the case? Is it caused by careless removal? (I have never carelessly removed a GPU from the socket, my GT610 which is a 7 year old card have no scratches on its pins despite being removed by more than a hundred times) ..OR Is is caused by the heat produced by the contact pins from PCIE slot in the motherboard?
  9. I'm planning on getting a 6900XT or 6800XT, and I'm planning on reusing my GTX 1060 6GB for hardware passthrough with VMs. How will bifurcation work? Will the 2 PCIe slots end up running on 3.0, or will it be possible to run 4.0 at the top and 3.0 at the bottom (or flip)? I currently have an Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master.
  10. To keep it short. I'm interested in buying the "MSI x570s unify max" but the thing is compared to other boards the pcie slot for the graphics card seems to be lower on this one. Will that have a huge effect on an aorus rtx 2070 in a be quiet 802 case regarding temperature or should I go with a vertikal mount in this case?
  11. Wasn't sure whether to put this under Motherboards, Storage, or Troubleshooting. TL;DR Is anyone successfully using a PCIe 4.0 SSD in the chipset M.2 slot on an Asrock B550 board? If so, what drive are you using? My story I have a B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax that I was happily using with 2x PCIe 3.0 SSDs (2x Toshiba XG6 1TB). I'm using a Sliger SM580 case with a 280mm AIO cooler, so taking the system apart to access the rear M.2 slot (attached to the chipset) is a bit of an ordeal. At the time I was using a Ryzen 3700X, though based on what's going on the CPU shouldn't matter. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what BIOS revision I was on. I probably started with either 1.80 or 2.00, and based on the timing 2.10 was probably available, and I definitely would have tried flashing the latest BIOS as a troubleshooting step. When the ADATA S50 Lite (a PCIe 4.0 drive) came out last year, I jumped on it and got a 2TB model. I didn't get it for the speed -- it barely exceeds what PCIe 3.0 is capable of -- it just seemed like a decent, inexpensive 2TB drive. I wanted to throw it in the REAR M.2 slot (attached to the Chipset and running at PCIe 3.0) so that I'd be replacing the harder to access slot and I'd still be able to upgrade the front SSD slot at a later date with another large M.2 drive when I could afford it, when prices came down, when better drives came out, etc. Unfortunately, after tearing apart the system and installing the S50 Lite in the rear M.2 slot, putting it all back together, and booting my system back up, the drive didn't show up in Windows. It didn't show up in Disk Management, in the CLI tool diskpart, or enumerated as a PCIe device in tools like HWINFO. I checked in BIOS(UEFI) and the drive was not showing up there either. I'd already tested the drive in an external M.2 USB enclosure, so I knew the drive worked. The enclosure only supported PCIe 3.0, so I knew that, at least in some instances, the drive didn't have issues with backwards compatibility (yes, I'm aware a 4.0 drive SHOULD work in a 3.0 slot, but as I'm about to demonstrate, that doesn't always seem to be the case). I ended up tearing down my system again and swapped the S50 Lite into the Front M.2 slot (PCIe 4.0 attached directly to the CPU's PCIe lanes) and the XG6 into the rear slot. With this arrangement, both drives are detected and worked. For the last year or so this has served me fine, but now I'm ready to upgrade my 1TB XG6 to either a 2TB or 4TB drive. I don't really need more than PCIe 3.0 speeds for anything, so I don't have a problem slotting the new drive into a 3.0 slot (since I've already established that the S50 Lite can't go in the 3.0 slot), but the market seems to be shifting towards 4.0 drives, even in the budget range. I'm worried that if I buy another PCIe 4.0 drive I won't be able to use it in the rear slot. Does anyone have experience with using PCIe 4.0 drives on the chipset M.2 slot of an Asrock B550 motherboard? Have you had instances of it NOT working like I did? Have you gotten a drive to work? Thanks!
  12. Can anyone please help me with this? I have an ASRock B450 pro4-f motherboard with r5 2600x and a msi rx 570 8gb gpu. I have no SSD just two HDDs. But for some reason my gpu is running at 8x 3.0 instead of 16x 3.0. I'm just hoping nothing is faulty here. And yes I have put the gpu in the 16x slot. I have also reseated my gpu and cpu. I have never updated bios before so I'm a bit nervous about that and I don't know if motherboard has a backup bios if anything goes wrong. Not too sure if it would solve the problem. I have given the bios settings in the attached image. I have updated the graphics card driver twice and also ddu it once. So I don't Think it's a gpu driver issue.
  13. Someone mentioned to me that putting a PCIE 4.0 & 3.0 GPUs won't fare well, especially for the 4.0 GPU. Does the same apply for SSDs? Do I have to put the NVME in 3.0 mode to do that?
  14. My currents server setup: Mainboard -> X470D4U CPU -> AMD Ryzen 7 2700 RAM -> G.Skill Aegis DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-18-18-38 PCIe Add in Card -> Supermicro AOC-SLG3-2M2-O Slotted with -> 2X Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 NVMe SSD 250GB, M.2 OS -> Unraid 6.9.2 The SSD's are in Slot6 (view block diagram in attachments) and in the Bios is PCIe bifrication enabled and set to 4X4. New gear to be added: Mellanox connectX-3 MCX311A-XCAT My problem is when i add the Mellanox card (no matter the slot), one of my SSD's is no longer visible/detected. I also tried every slot combination there is, but nothing worked. The Mellanox card works normal and connects succesfully to my switch. Any help or ideas why this is are very appreciated!
  15. Should i get a Msi mag x570 tomahawk or a b550 around the same price point. Ive been really stressed out about picking a pcie 4 or a pcie 3 gpu slot
  16. My motherboard only supports PCIe 3.0. Because PCIe 4.0 is backwards compatible with PCIe 3.0 (at least this particular drive I'm looking at) my plan is to buy a PCIe 4.0 M.2 drive for future proofing as an incremental upgrade. When I eventually upgrade my motherboard (and other components) a couple of years down the line, I already have an M.2 drive that supports PCIe 4.0 speeds. I have an Asus Z170-A that supports NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 Socket 3, with M Key, type 2280 (up to 32Gbit/s). Here are some other relevant components: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hjm7Cz For example a Samsung 1TB 980 PRO (MZ-V8P1T0BW) M.2 2280, PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c looks nice. The motherboard manual says "The M.2 socket shares SATA ports with SATA Express. Only one SATA device could be activated." which presumably means that I need to move my current SSD away from the SATA Express port into a regular SATA port to give all of the bandwidth to the new M.2 drive (which I of course plan on using as my OS drive)? Additionally: What are some potential pitfalls of using a gen 4 M.2 on a gen 3 motherboard? Can I still expect regular gen 3 speeds in the 3500/3300 MB/s range with a gen 4 drive? I'm not entirely sure how this PCIe lane splitting thing works but that is something to keep in mind? I don't have anything else in my PCIe slots apart from the GPU so this should not be an issue?
  17. First of all I am new on this forum, altho have been following LTT for a long time now. Anyway I came on here as I got a "new" 128 Gb nvme m.2 drive and I want to install it in my old pc Wich is a HP 7900 minitower running on e8400 cpu. As you may already know that's pretty archaic so the motherboard doesn't have any nvme slot ( heck even it's drives are SATA 2 ) . But I want to try anyway , as I red online you could use nvme drives on the pcie slot using some adapter. My question : Will it work ? Those adapters are only pcie3, pcie 3 it's backwards compatible with pcie 2 so technically it should work , right ? But that's unlikely the only factor deciding it , does it need some special bios that only newer motherboards have ? Well I don't know , and altho it would be fun try, would like to have a general idea if I should even bother for a start . So I came here for your wisdom. Thank you in advance .
  18. I ordered my 3080, I have a 3700x with a Strix X570-E, in my O11 I have my 2070 Super vertical mounted. I am fairly certain that the pcie 4.0 won’t work on the riser cable. has anyone ran a benchmark from the 3080 on a pcie3 vs 4 on the Strix variant? I have read a few spots that the manual toggle of it doesn’t make a whole bunch of difference yet. 1440p Ultrawide 165 hz,
  19. I am having some issues installing a new SSD into an older machine. The machine has gotten sluggish with the usual windows bloat of old drivers and autoplay programs so I intended to pop a new SSD in, reinstall windows and get some more use out of the machine. I had noticed that DRAM cached SSDs are becoming harder to find (not hard, but not basically all of them) andd that PCIe 4.0 SSDs are basically the same price as PCIe 3.0 and have a use for me in future systems so I have bought a Samsung 980 Pro 500GB NVME PCIe 4.0 SSD. I did my research in advance and everything I can see suggests that a PCIe 4.0 device is backwards compatible and will operate in a PCIe 3.0 slot at a reduced performance. After I have installed the drive it is not showing up in either the BIOS or in the windows install utility running from a flashdrive. The controller on the SSD is getting warm, so it is receiving power. When installed in a different machine it is detected by the BIOS without issue so the drive is not faulty. And returning the previous PM961 SSD into the slot shows up in the BIOS and boots without issue so I doubt the slot is defective. System boots into the windows installer USB without issue (other than missing drive), and prior to this the machine has run fine apart from DirectX 12 incompatibilities and general sluggishness from excessive background applications. Any ideas on what could be causing this drive to not be recognised in this system? Machine Specs: Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 stock Asus X99-E WS USB3.1 2x 16GB Samsung 2133MHz DDR4 ECC EVGA GTX 1070 SC A selection of WD Red and Black 3.5" HDDs and Samsung Sata SSD currently not connected during install ***SOLUTION*** Following these steps https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/asus-x99-aii-motherboard-doesnt-detect-m-2-samsung-960-evo.2938991/
  20. wanting to upgrade from a GTX 1650 to a RX 5700 XT, on the AMD website they say the GPU runs on pcie gen4 but my motherboard only supports pcie gen3. will I need to buy a different GPU that runs on pcie gen3?
  21. Since USB 4.0 should support up to 40 Gbps what is everyone's thought on using external m.2 enclosures (at least for pcie gen 3 drives)? Assuming the usb bus isnt too crowded it would be nice for quickly transfering or even playing games on the fly. I think it would be useful in some instances, such as the LTT video where they are testing Arc GPUs with downloading games on 1 pc and transferring over to play on another. It could also be useful when upgrading storage such as gen 3 to gen 4 to take advantage of resizable bar and whatnot.
  22. I have no idea what i should do on my older system. I need more storage for gaming. i have no idea what i should get. the system is pci gen 3 and i have 1 onboard m.2 slot. my ssd is fine just small for todays gaming needs. what should i buy? do i buy the cheapest 1TB or 2Tb drive i can find? or should i buy the fastest read /write speed drive? I mainly play video games and some with a ton of mods. video editing in only once in awhile, and i do copy files back and forth from time to time. ( ssd to 1tb hdd) This is what i am wanting to pick since i have always had samsung drives and is my price range. https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX76118 but i see other drives with 2TB that are cheaper. or around the same price range. I'd like the speed to be comparable to my current 500G ssd just larger. here is my bench mark link https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V10/display.php?id=161982151715 Confused In Calgary, Alberta.
  23. I'm doing a new PC build, and I went with two m.2 SSDs. Both 1TB, one is PCIe gen4 and the other is PCIe gen 3. When the gen 4 ssd is in the gen 4 slot, and gen 3 ssd is in the gen 3 slot, the motherboard doesn't seem to recognize both. However, if I switch the two, they both show up in the BIOS. That obviously defeats the purpose of having paid the premium for a PCIe gen 4 m.2 ssd, so I'm hoping that's not the solution. I know that in the motherboard's manual, it says that if there's an m.2 ssd in the gen 3 slot that the neighboring PCIe gen 3 x4 slot is disabled, but that's not a problem as the only other thing plugged in is the GPU in the PCIe gen 4 x16 slot. Any ideas as to what I'm missing here? I've searched through the BIOS but I'm not seeing anything promising. Cheers!
  24. Hi, all! I'm currently looking at upgrading the CPU on my streaming (also my main workstation) computer due to having recently hit the limits of the PCIe bandwidth on my Intel 7800x. I'm running a Blackmagic Design Decklink Duo 2, alongside a PCIe sfp+ card and an NVME SSD. And now I'm in need of another Decklink card due to the increased production demands that has arisen the last couple of weeks. I've been looking at the i9 9940x, so I can stay on the same chipset, but I've also been tempted to go for AMD's Ryzen for the extra horsepower in the editing- and animation department. The thing that confuses me is that while the 9940x is gonna supply me with enough PCIe 3.0 lanes, I have no idea how the 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes on, say, the Ryzen 3950x is going to equate to that. This is the math regarding PCI lane usage on my system: - GTX 1080: PCIe 3.0 16x - Decklink Duo 2: PCIe 2.0 4x - ASUS XG-C100f 10: PCIe 3.0 4x (PCI Express 1x interface) - Samsung 960 EVO: PCIe 3.0 4x And I want to add a Decklink Quad HDMI Recorder, which uses the PCIe 3.0 8x interface Since the Ryzen 3950x is PCIe 4.0, will its 24 lanes equate to 48 PCIe 3.0 lanes? Best Regards Øystein
  25. Hey Community, i have a Vega 64 Nitro+ and a Maximus XI Apex Mb but one Problem. My Soundcard.. it's a PCIe x4 Soundcard, but when i put that huge GPU in the first x16 Slot it blocks the x4 Slot. So i was wondering if the rule of "16x turns into 2x8x" actually applies when i put the Soundcard in a x16 Slot. I dont want my GPU to perform worse cause it might lose 4 Lanes?? 8 Lanes?? idk.. im pretty picky when it comes to my gpu benchmarks and although going from 16 to 8 is not a big fat fps drop, its still some.. so i want it to be as quick as it would right now, but before i swap them around i wanted to ask first if there is a quick answer from you guys Thanks.
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