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  1. So I have an ASUS H170 Pro Gaming board with I5-6600K. As you know I can't OC on this board but I saw an CPU_OV jumper on the board and I was wondering what is it for? I mean it is for overclocking but I can't overclock or can I? If I can't then what is it for? I don't get it.
  2. So I have been having this problem that's been bothering me for weeks! Bear with me because I've tried almost everything and can't find a permanent fix. I'm running a year old gaming PC with the following specs: EVGA GTX 1070 SC 8GB graphics card ASUS H170 Pro Gaming motherboard Intel Core i5-6600 3.3 GHZ processor 24GB DDR4 RAM (2 x 8 GB Kingston HyperX Fury 2133, 2 x 4 GB Crucial 2133) 120GB Kingston HyperX 2.5" SSD, 3TB Seagate 3.5" HDD EVGA SUPERNOVA G1 650w 80+ Gold PSU Corsair SPEC-02 case Windows 10 Professional 64-bit This gaming setup ran most games at 60+ fps at 1080p, however I capped performance at 60 with Vsync because I don't have a G-Sync monitor. The motherboard does not support overclocking and I have never attempted to overclock either the CPU or GPU. About two weeks ago, almost all my games, including DOOM, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Project CARS, & Bioshock Infinite (to name a few) are now running at framerates that range anywhere from 1 - 15 fps. Performance seems to stay at this level despite loading games after booting the PC cold or after it's been running for a few hours. Figuring it was the GPU, I RMA'd it with EVGA and received a replacement one, but that didn't solve the problem. Switching the replacement card to the other PCI-E lane on my motherboard didn't solve the problem either. I reinstalled Windows and Steam on my SSD, but the problem persisted with a fresh copy of Windows. I tried this process on two separate occasions but I still had problems, each time making sure to use DDU to remove and reinstall the latest NVIDIA drivers. Thinking I had a faulty HDD, I moved a few games to the SSD, but the problem wasn't resolved. Chkdsk on the HDD revealed no bad sectors. I redownloaded and reverified a few of the games above and their local content, but I didn't see any change. It's not only Steam: uPlay and Origin games give me the same problems. I used Memtest on both sets of DDR4 RAM and attempted to run a few games, but the fps issues were still there, despite running games on both sets of RAM separately. An EVGA customer support representative recommended I check the PSU voltages for any voltage spikes over the 12V rail, but I didn't see any issues. To be on the safe side, I purchased an EVGA 850w 80+ Bronze PSU from a local Best Buy, but changing the power supply didn't fix the problem. I used Intel's Processor Diagnostic Tool to run stress and bench tests on the CPU and all the tests passed. It's odd because I ran benchmarking tests with both Unigine Heaven & Furmark and noticed no dips in performance. Temperatures stayed at around 60-65 C, but I had ran other benchmarking utilities beforehand. Temperatures typically didn't exceed 60 C when using Vsync. Unigine Heaven Scores FPS: 91.6 Score: 2307 Min FPS: 10.0 Max FPS: 194.6 Render: Direct3D11 Mode: 1920x1080 8xAA fullscreen Preset: Custom Quality: Ultra Tessellation: Extreme I suspect the problem is the motherboard, but I want to make sure I've exhausted all my options. And ASUS is not the most service-friendly company when it comes to customer service. I called on two separate occasions and received no helpful feedback. Can anyone provide additional feedback and advice as to how to proceed next? Thanks in advance!
  3. I currently have a pre-built system with a h170 motherboard with a i7-6700(non-K) i was wondering if its worth upgrading the motherboard for the eligibility for the XMP profiles, i wanted another opinion for this choice of upgrade.
  4. Hi everyone, Last December i built my new build to replace a core 2 duo / HD 5670 PC. I got the Sapphire Nitro RX480 8GB card and was worried about overclocking. I bumped it by 25mhz without messing with power limit at all. I heard that even small overclocks increase the power draw by a lot. I have a Seasonic M12ii Evo 520w power supply and am concerned about bumping the power limit up to 50%. Is this safe, and is there a good way to measure power draw so i know its not straining my PSU. Any advice on the overclock itself is also welcome. Thanks
  5. So the "impossible" clock I have achieved is a meager 3.9 GHz. The catch is, its on my i5 6600 (non k), in my Gigabyte H170 motherboard, and I did it via multiplier. I was rooting around in my Bios, and decided to see how it would refuse me the multiplier increase, because why not, and it didn't. I reasoned that surely it wouldn't stick when I saved and exited, so I did, went straight back in, and it was still there. Naturally in my disbelief I opted to put on a very modest overclock of 200MHz, boot through to Windows and ask CPU-Z for its opinion. It, RealTemp and the Windows performance monitor agreed that it was running at my OC'd speed of 3.5GHz. So some tinkering down the line, I have reached a stable clock of 3.9GHz (a Bios imposed limit), with voltage at 1.3V. Hardware monitors agree with this, and there was a consistent improvement in Cinebench scores to back up my disbelief. Does anyone know how in seven hells this is possible? It really doesn't make sense to me. Edit: I was a cake, I now know how the multiplier works with non-K CPU's and turbo, this is the first non-K CPU I've owned, and was confused. Thanks all
  6. my current specs are/ cpu: core i5 6600k mobo: gigabyte gaming 3 h170 ram: 2x8gb corsair sport gpu: evga titan black Im trying to stream and record game play, but im noticing a substantial lag and choppiness in my recording. The advice im seeking is would it be enough to possibly upgrade to a z170 mobo and do a generous oc on my i5 to get rid of these frame issues (ideal solution to save a few bucks). or should i just choke it down and look into upgrading to an i7? could i get some pro's and con's perhaps? thank you for your feedback.
  7. Hey, So first attempt at building a computer, and I've picked out most parts for a relatively low budget build to handle some basic number crunching (python ML stuff on smaller datasets), and games like EU4 and CIV6. However, having never built a PC before this whole motherboard swamp has me treading water regarding what to choose. Any help from experienced builders is very welcome! Parts: CPU: i5-6500 GPU: GTX 1060 (although I may have to run with just integrated graphics for a short while so mobo will need display outs) RAM: 2x8gb (expandable to 2x16) SSD: Samsung 750 500g Power: ?? Mobo: ?? Case: Jonsbo umx4 My demands on the mobo aren't very extreme, but I'd like to be able to expand with a PCIe or M.2 memory unit, and have decent sound for some speakers. Many thanks in advance for any help!
  8. Greetings everyone, So the other day I was trying to run VirtualBox but as soon as I started the virtual machine it crashed and my system restarted. Earlier I was trying to run Nox Player and it showed an error of 'Can't run virtual machine'. So I configured in the BIOS setting to enable Vt-d in the BIOS features and enable Hyper-v in windows features setting but the problem persists. I can't figure out what to do. Am I missing something or am I doing something wrong. My plan is to run Android in the background as I work on my regular applications. System specification: i7 6700 Ga-H170-gaming3 16gb Radeon 7870 2gb.
  9. I have recently gotten into overclocking but currently own a H170 Board, ASRock Fatal1ty Performace to be exact. I own a 6700k to go along with that, my cooler is a H100I V2 so heat is no issue, i cant find the setting in the BIOS for CPU multiplier, i can only find it when i using the software F-Stream, provided by ASRock. In the BIOS i can find CPU Vcore Voltage, is that the same as just regular old CPU Voltage? Im still pretty new to overclocking but PC Building is a strong skill of mine so i know im doing too many things wrong, any help/suggestions are very welcome, thanks
  10. Hey guys, What do you think about the i5 6500 paired with a gtx 1070? i was thinking what motherboard should i buy tho? i really don't know a thing about the features that premium mobo have so... i found this AsRock b150 pro4 that is a mini itx board that cost around 75 euros.. it support the ddr4 2133mhz that is kinda what i wanted.. then it should support an ssd and an hdd? then 1 thing i was thinking do i need a certain mobo to be able to use the turbo boost of the cpu? or any mobo is going to work fine? the final idea is this one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pjWpQV ($=euro) the ssd that is missing is this one https://www.amazon.it/PNY-SSD7CS900-120-PB-SSD-Interno-120GB/dp/B01KFLH1WS/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1482333676&sr=8-9&keywords=ssd+120+gb guys i need serious answers tho, i have around 80euros to spend on a mobo so if u have some advice feel free to tell me... and... the 1070 that im thinking to get is a big one so do you think is gonna stress to much the mobo? or is no big deal? this one was another idea https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LZFV2R but i think that a 1070 with the 6500 will still outperform the 1060 with the 6600k.. but still what do you guys think?
  11. Hey all, I am preparing to order parts for a SFF ITX dorm and LAN party rig to run my 970 that I am pulling from my current home PC which is getting an upgrade to a 1060. As far as Skylake motherboards go, is there much of a difference between the H110 and H170 chipsets in the gaming department? I am on a pretty tight budget and am looking to go as inexpensive as I can without sacrificing too much reliability. I am just throwing an i3 6100 in there because my only requirement is that it doesn't bottleneck my 970, so that rules out the Z170 chipsets for me. Wifi in the board would be a big plus. I have pretty much narrowed my selection down to the MSI H110 Pro AC, ASRock H170M-ITX/ac, and possibly the Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI (rev. 1.0) though going with the last board would be really stressing my budget. In my situation, would there be any real drawback to the MSI board? Would I see any real benefit in an H170 board? Here is my complete parts list as of now if it would help any of you in your recommendation. PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrP26X Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrP26X/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99) Motherboard: MSI H110I PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg) Storage: PNY CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($0.00) Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($46.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit ($119.99 @ Newegg) Monitor: Sceptre E225W-1920 22.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($79.99 @ Newegg) Total: $575.91 Thanks!
  12. I have a Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 motherboard which is equipped with two m.2 slots. By the look of it they are 'M Key' sockets and i was wondering whether i can use a M.2 card with 'B & M' Key, specifically a Transcend MTS600 32GB M.2 Drive. Is it possible to use this drive in the above mentioned motherboard?
  13. Hey i'd like to know which of these two motherboards are better, even though they are near exact. Obviously they have different chipsets.
  14. So, I have recently made and upgrade from a 1060 to a 2070 super. This was because I dont have enough money for a 3080 or 3070 but managed to get a really good deal on a 2070 super second hand. The issue is that I have an i5 7600k. Paired with a H170 chipset. Again, got a decent second hand deal. Been running an i5-6500 for years but cost me 30€ to upgrade to a 7600k. The 7600k to no suprise is a massive bottleneck in most games. Eventho it's single core rating is quite good. So im really looking to boost it's performance. The issue I have found is the following. The processor: i5 7600k 3.8 base 4.2 boost, is constantly running at 3997mHz or something around there. In that state it reports 40 watts of power usage. And since it's water cooled only stays on about 50C. I was wondering why it doesn't go any higher. Since I assume there is more performance to be had. More info: Motherboard Asrock H170 Pro4 hyper. Temps usage and clocks measured with HWmonitor. Stress tested with: Aida 64, p95, Rainbow 6 siege, Counter strike.
  15. Hi everyone, So here's my dilemma, I have a 6700 paired with a H170 board. I am fairly certain that my H170 board's 8-PIN CPU connection is loose, and will fail permanently soon. Currently there are only H270s left on the market, should I just get a new H270? Or go for a full upgrade? I looked at the stats of 8700s and they only offer a negligible improvement for gaming. Some backstory: This is the second time I was troubleshooting the same problem - my computer would not start up, (no Post, BIOS nothing), I found out that my 8-pin CPU pin was loose. The first time I just checked all connections and my PC worked after (I think I just knocked it into the right angle). After adjusting its angle my computer would start up, so I am strongly certain that the CPU was not getting any power before I adjusted the angle. I'm fairly confident that everything is fine, as I ran an AIDA64 stress test for an hour with no issues. I have also managed to game perfectly fine. Opinions on the matter? If anyone has opinions on other avenues of troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated, (in case I missed anything). Troubleshooting log: Unplugged everything from the computer Checked the PSU connections Re-seated RAM, (I know there were no beeps, but I did it anyway) Specs: Intel Core i7 6700 Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB Cooler Master GM Series 80 plus Bronze 650W Gigabyte H170-HD3 (Mobo) MSI Gaming X 1070 GTX Windows 10 64bit (duh)
  16. Here hoping for some help from the great and faceless internet crowd, so here's my problem: Two days ago my year old build froze during basic web surfing. After a few restart attempts with no video signal I tried switch to the integrated GPU and found out that the computer was actually booting just fine but not detecting the RX 480 (neither in bois nor in windows). So I tried clearing cmos, reflashing MB's bios, reinstalling the RX 480 into the second PCIE, and using other power connectors on it to no avail (the led lights always lighted up but not much else). Finally, I tried replacing the RX with my old Asus Radeon HD6850 and it worked fine, i even did a few stress test and everything went well. So I RMA'd the RX 480 today and was ready to wait for the retailer to get back to me. Buuut then I come back from work today only to find my PC (currently with the HD6850 in it) frozen. After a few restarts I found out that the computer would freeze (with sound continuing working fine but a frozen screen and no input reaction) after a short and random period of time, like 1-5 min, even in bios which I reset to default settings just in case. Those freezes persisted until I removed the HD 6850 and switched back to the internal GPU, then it became completely stable again. So, my question is, do you think that my original assessment that the RX 480 was faulty is wrong and maybe the problems originated from a faulty PSU or motherboard/PCIE slot, rather than the GPU? PC specs: Motherboard: Asus H170 PRO GAMING GPU: SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon™ RX 480 8G D5 OC CPU: Intel I7 6700 3.4ghz RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4 2400MHz SSD: Sandisk Plus 2.5 240GB PSU: Antec Basiq 700w VP700p
  17. As in the title, I'm looking for that compatibility. In the Specifications part, AsRock says: This looks a bit confusing. When they says "M.2 PCI EXpress module up to Gen3 x4 (32 Gb/s)", they're specifically referring to NVMe SSDs? I'm asking this because, afaik, NVMe can be SATA or PCI or NVMe, with NVMe as the fastest of the group. Is that correct? I'd like to have this upgrade possibility in the future without changing motherboard, since it works fine and smooth. Also, anyone can firsthand confirm this? Do you have this motherboard with an NVMe SSD installed? TL;DR: could I slot on that motherboard, for example, a 960 EVO? Let me know, thanks in advance guys.
  18. My friend told me to build a rig for him that could make him game decently on 1080p the latest games and be quiet. Since he said he didn't want to spend too much on the PC he said he could give up overclocking, he wouldn't mind. Well, AsRock always been one of the most overclocking friendly brands and have been on the news lately by allowing their H170 motherboards overclock even those more affordable nonK CPU's which in the end you save in the CPU and chipset. First off, these are all the components I got for him Asrock Fatal1ty H170 Performance/Hyper Intel i7 6700 (got a nice sale on this one PowerColor RX480 Red Devil GeIL EVO FORZA D4-3200 CL16 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) GeIL R3240G SSD CM G650W PSU CM MASTER LIQUID PRO 240 CM MasterCase 5 Now to the main bad boy here, let's take a look at the Fatal1ty H170 Performance/Hyper. From my understanding, Asrock names Hyper series the boards that have the BCLK chip that allows clock change / thus providing overclocking features to non Z and nonK CPUs / memories. Even the B110M Hyper that they just announced recently has this "magic" BCLK making also a great budget board for oc. It's funny they don't mention anything on their box about CPU overclocking, only the memory, I'm guessing Intel don't allow them Speaking of the box here's a overview of the card's box in the back, we already know how it looks in the front. Here you can see the key features, besides the awesome BCLK for our overclocking journey, we also have quite decent features for a value board, USB Type-C, the always trusty Intel LAN, Fatal1ty Mouse port if your into gaming, Ultra M.2 and one thing very important and worth mention, the 10 Power Phase design, always good for a decent solid and reliable mobo. And now, a quick unpacking: http://gifmaker.me/files/download/home/20160912/00/PWMp2yQow7lV5m7BHGcRGa/output_PhW3sC.gif Included in the box we have a software setup guide and separate user manual, driver CD, a screw for the M.2 slot, IO back plate, 2 SATA cables, Xsplit subscription code, case badge and ad for ASRock's G10 Gaming router. Looking at the mobo, maybe I'm bit biased, but I always had a thing the red and black theme, from this picture perhaps you cannot really tell how good looking it is but the following ones you get a feeling and looks like Asrock did a pretty awesome job laying out the board and its components. On the 10 Power Phase, we have beautiful heat sinks matching amazingly good with my pair of Geil DDR4 EVO Forza. Killer combo! Also you can see the BCLK chipset just above the Fatal1ty logo and near the Fan Header (by the way, this mobo has 6, 4 pin Fan headers, plenty of cooling possible and all controlled by the UEFI bios.) I pickup up the Geil EVO FORZA D4-3200 at great pricing. Always a key component to have in mind to have in consideration when you want to have a decent overclock. Also worth mention the additional power socket just above the PCIe slot, used to provide extra power to the PCIe lanes. This is specifically for SLI and Crossfire, good idea for the RX480 reference cards I guess. Being a overclocker, I'm surprised to see a "value" board like this having dual bios! But then again Asrock always had overclocking DNA on its brand but it's good to see they keep delivering, thumbs up! This Purity sound right here, features a 7.1 channel soundcard that is based around a Realtek ALC1150 codec, features Nichicon Fine Gold Series Audio capacitors and comes equipped with a TI NE5532 Premium Headset Amplifier with support for headphones up to 600Ohms. Pretty good for a onboard sound "card", I will have to test that later on. Plenty of connectivity here: Rear Panel I/O– 1 x PS/2 Mouse/Keyboard Port – 1 x DVI-D Port – 1 x HDMI Port – 1 x Optical SPDIF Out Port – 1 x USB 2.0 Port (Supports ESD Protection (ASRock Full Spike Protection)) – 1 x Fatal1ty Mouse Port (USB 2.0) (Supports ESD Protection (ASRock Full Spike Protection)) – 5 x USB 3.0 Type-A Ports (Supports ESD Protection (ASRock Full Spike Protection)) – 1 x USB 3.0 Type-C Port (Supports ESD Protection (ASRock Full Spike Protection)) – 1 x RJ-45 LAN Port with LED (ACT/LINK LED and SPEED LED) – HD Audio Jacks: Rear Speaker / Central / Bass / Line in / Front Speaker / Microphone Other Features / Besides having a ton of storage connectivity (6 SATA 6Gbs ports and 2 SATA Express ). you will find this board features Ultra M.2 boosting 32Gbs! There was a time that this didn't made much sense on a value board since M.2 storage was crazy expensive but these days the prices have been going down quite and easily find a decent value option. Picking ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance was a no brainier, considering being on budget! Paying around 100 bucks for this board instead of 150$ for say the a Z170 mobo, while not losing the overclocking ability makes perfect sense. Later on post my experiences and probably a guide how to overclock a NonK CPU and memory using a H170 Hyper motherboard, this board has tons of overclocking options and features. So stay tuned.
  19. I was planning on getting an i7 NON k edition but I'm confused about the motherboards. I was told that to use that CPU I needed a motherboard that had "z170" in the name, for example; the Asus z170-a (wich was the one I was buying) but then when I went to the store the guy told me that I didn't need that motherboard at all that I could use an h170 motherboard, I thought he was trying to make me buy something more expensive but the h170 motherboards are cheaper so... whats going on? can somebody explain me what motherboard do I REALLY need and why? thanks!
  20. Motherboards from different manufacturers often have exclusive features, such as 'MSI fast boot' on some MSI mobo's, but is it worth keeping those in mind when choosing one? Or is it more like a fun bonus/ clever marketing? Also, can someone explain what the most important/ useful features are from each of the big 4 manufacturers(ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte and ASRock). I'm a bit confused by all the different specs and similar motherboards
  21. Hi all. Recently I build my self a new desktop, the setup is below: CPU: I5 6500 Memory: 2133mhz 16GB DDR4 Graphics card: GTX 1070 MoBo: Asus H170 pro gaming I went on this plan because this is my first time building a desktop and I don't want to mess up with some giant wind coolers or a AIO cooler since, also yes I am a student and I want to save some budget. Yet now more than one friend said to me that I should get a better CPU to 'overtake the bottleneck'. Personally I think my friend is joking around with me, but still is it true that a mid tier CPU may drag some performance from a high end graphics card? Or in other words, did I waste some money on a 1070 because I did not get a better CPU? In my specific situation I really don't think I will have any problem. I had a 1080p 144mHz monitor and I only play client games like Dota2 and Overwatch. With some overclocking on the GPU I can have a dead 150FPS with 62 degrees on Overwatch's Ultra settings. But what if I run console games? Or games on 1440p, and even 4k? Will it cause a significant FPS difference like 10 or 15? And in this question I don't think the CPU is the only thing that need to think about since when you get a better CPU , most likely you will get a better motherboard and a high frequency Memory stick. Will it cause any noticeable performing difference combined with the same high end graphics card? Also Linus is so handsome and I love you Luke. :^)
  22. I've bought a fractal design define r5. Will the following all be compatible with eachother and it? What limitations will I have with this setup? I plan on getting a graphics card and a HDD later on. EDIT: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/QQ6BYJSKN3XY/ref=topnav_lists_2 Sorry about that guys
  23. Which is better to choose ? 16gb ram for h110 chipset or 8gb ram for h170 chipset
  24. Hey guys, I am putting my first build together for general use with a little gaming and maybe some media streaming. For games it will mostly not be any new games, mostly last gen I figure. Do think there are any bottlenecks or general oversites I have made? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Tangent5/saved/#view=YhmV3C
  25. Well recently my old system went down. So thought of upgrading and thus on a tight budget , I am getting a i5-6500 and 8GB avexir core ram. Now the main question and tricky part , the motherboard. Well a few days back with the help of people here in this forum I had selected the Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 motherboard as I don't need to OC and it had enough I/O for my needs. SO yester day when I went to buy the components I was informed at the store that the Gigabyte g1.sniper b7 has gone out of stock and possibly it will not be back anymore. So I am thus now left with my old budget although seeing the present situation I have increased my budget by INR 2,000 (I am from India). So thus now I am left with 3 options. Which are- 1. Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H http://mdcomputers.in/products/motherboard-939319153/ga... 2. MSI H170 GAMING M3 http://mdcomputers.in/products/motherboard-939319153/ga... 3. MSI Z170A PC MATE http://mdcomputers.in/products/motherboard-939319153/ga... Note- I am from India so the prices are in INR So out of all these which I should I go for? coz the motherboard is the only factor stopping me. One more question which brand should be good as far as quality and durability is concerned. I am asking this coz I have seen many people favouring the Gigabyte over MSI, as some have said MSI has bad QC and components and has maximum defective boards. So please guide me on this.
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