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I'll make it really simple and quick: I'm completing a PC Build with a 12400f, 6750xt. I had two choices when it came to buying the RAM: 1) DDR4 32GB 3200Mhz CL18 2) DDR5 32GB 5600Mhz CL46 Both were at the SAME price (i live in italy). I bought the DDR5 CL46 one, and now i'm worried for the High CAS Latency. For almost entirely gaming and a little video/photo editing, is my DDR5 5600 C46 better or worse than a DDR4 3200 C18? Have i really made that bad of a choice or it was the better one performance/cost wise?
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So comparing cost difference vs performance, which would be best? We're talking general purpose + gaming. (12700K, 3080Ti) My options are (all DDR5): $425 5200Mhz CL38 (ADATA XPG Lancer) $495 6000Mhz CL40 (ADATA XPG Lancer) $550 5600Mhz CL36 (GSkill TridentZ5) $595 6000Mhz CL36 (GSkill TridentZ5) It will be one of those, not here to be lectured on DDR5 vs DDR4 cost & effect now. EDIT: Went with white G.Skill's Trident Z5 RGB 6000MHz CL36 (with a small discount) for $580
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Hi All, not sure if there is an open thread if there is kindly put the link please I previously bought 1 stick of DDR4 3000Mhz 16GB ram when I built my new computer (I forgot the Cas latency but lets says its 15-17-17-35) since i planned to add another by next month or so Now I got the new same brand DDR4 3000Mhz 16GB ram but i noticed that the latency is different (lets just say 10 19 19 36) My question is how do i set this up in my motherboard settings (should I set the latency of the lower one? could i set it in the middle?) Your Possible questions: - Why did you not but the same set of ram: No options for latency to pick (it was same same brand but the latency was not advertise) Corsair Vengeance. I thought that they just have the same timing since it is the same brand and product. https://shopee.ph/CORSAIR-Vengeance-LPX-8GB-16GB-DDR4-2400Mhz-2666Mhz-Module-PC4-19200-21300-Desktop-RAM-memory-8GB-16GB-DIMM-i.167721774.5329181537 https://shopee.ph/product/436441/6735385892 - My (son's) Computer: Processor: Ryzen 5 3600 Board : B450 MSI bazooka plus Graphics: R580 4GB (miners edition, DVI output only) RAM: 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance LPX (difference CL) Storage: 250 NVme (WD) and 1TB HDD (WD) PSU: Deep Cool 500W - Why not return it? the process may take another 3 months or so with return process. just to be fair the new one has better CL timmings. the old one can't be returned or exchange. Thanks in Advance
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I currently have a Corsair 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3000 C15 running at 2933 C15 since my CPU (i7-10700) does not support running memory over 2933Mhz. I'm planning on buying Corsair 32GB (2 X 16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 and running it alongside the currently running memory to make it a total of 48GB. I can't find the 32GB variant of the 3000 C15 so I'm looking at 3200 C16 instead and running it at the lower speed but better CAS latency. The actual latency of the retrieving the first byte of data would be the same 10ns for both but I don't know friendly these RAM sticks are to run at these slightly different settings. Anyone tried anything similar before?
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I'm undecided whether to buy which 16GB RAM Kit. I'm going to pair it with an Ryzen 3600 or 3300x. The options are: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory CAS Latency 16, Timings 16-18-18-36 69,90€ ~ 76,65$ or G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory CAS Latency 19, Timings 19-20-20-40 71.90€ ~ 78,84$ Both are the cheapest RAM Kits at their Speeds in Germany. Which should i choose and why? From looking it up I only found some people saying that you should first look at the speed and then at the CAS-Latency when comparing kits of the same speeds. But that seems too generalized for me. Thank you in advance.
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Hey guys I got some of this stuff https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232306 but at a much better price on ebay the other day and I want to go to 32gb but I don't really wanna pay $162 for another set. I can get this CAS 16 stuff https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232194 a lot cheaper I am just curious if I should say screw it and buy the c15 stuff or save my money. The reason I want to go to 32gb of ram is for 3d modeling so I do have somewhat of an excuse. As for the build: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $274.49 @ Amazon CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D9L 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler $58.79 @ B&H Motherboard MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $169.99 @ Best Buy Memory G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL15 Memory $129.99 @ Newegg Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $99.99 @ Amazon Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.99 @ Newegg Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $649.00 @ Amazon Case Lian Li LANCOOL II-X ATX Mid Tower Case $94.99 @ B&H Power Supply EVGA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $157.99 @ Best Buy Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $142.88 @ Other World Computing Case Fan Noctua NF-F12 PWM 54.97 CFM 120 mm Fan Case Fan Noctua NF-A9x14 29.72 CFM 92 mm Fan $15.95 @ Amazon Monitor MSI Optix MAG322CR 31.5" 1920x1080 180 Hz Monitor $329.99 @ Best Buy Keyboard Corsair K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $49.88 @ Walmart Mouse Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse $36.48 @ Best Buy Headphones Corsair HS50 PRO STEREO Headset $49.99 @ Best Buy Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $2305.39 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-02 19:50 EDT-0400
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Hey guys, I know at this point it there is probably very little difference between the modules. One has tighter timings at the cost of 200 Mhz. I tried to find some benchmarks / scaling to see if their was a difference but came up short. They both cost the same amount from the retailer I am buying from. Here is the 3000 module https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37870/g-skill-trident-z-rgb-f4-3000c15d-16gtzr-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4 Here is the 3200 https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37884/g-skill-trident-z-rgb-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4 down the bottom in the spec is a picture with the timings. cheers.
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Back in 2013 a policy was put in place where copyright holders would monitor copyright content on the web and inform ISPs to send out warnings to any IP addresses associated with that content. After receiving numerous strikes you could have your internet throttled, have certain webpages redirected to "tutorials" about piracy, and receive threatening letters. Well, just about three years later they realized that it's a waste of everyones time and doesn't work. Surprise surprise. So, basically, the people who account for the majority of piracy will never stop and the people who pirate occassionally stopped. Whoopdeedo. Not only was it a poorly implemented system with no real backing/punishment, it's also easily avoidable by something as simple as a VPN. Like all forms of anti-piracy, it doesn't hurt the big time pirates, it only hurts the "little guy". They report an increase in piracy, although, I'm sure that has nothing to do with this system, but rather consumers becoming more and more fed up with the bullshit/difficulty of watching some content legally. There is no new system that has been announced yet, but there will surely be something, movie studios can't just let people get away with stealing their original content. Anyway, here we are in 2017 and movie/game/other studios still think piracy affects their bottom line and they still think there is something they can do about it. How cute. http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/30/14445596/six-strikes-piracy-system-failed-ending
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I have 2x8GB RAM with 18 CAS at the moment. I can get a decent deal on another 2x8GB RAM with 14 CAS at a slightly cheaper price than the 2x8GB 18 CAS model. Does it hurt/help to get the 14 CAS?
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Hi ppl, how are you? Here is the deal: I've doing some benchmarks to see what my gear has to offer. Here is what I have: Mobo: MSI 970A Krait Edition USB 3.1 CPU: AMD FX-6350 Overclocked @4.4Ghz Cooling: Corsair H45 GPU: AMD Radeon R9 380 ASUS Strix 4GB 256bits RAM: 16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX Fury 1866mhz (CL10-11-10 @1.5V) SSD: AMD Radeon R3 120GB HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda 64mb 7400rpm OS: Windows 10 Pro Passmark says that my RAM Latency is something around 60ns and says that it represents "21%", where 100% is the expected results for that benchmark comparing with others benchmarks with the same RAM model. UserBenchmark says the same: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3221269 I actually reset all my mobo settings to default and tryed once again those benchmarks, but the results on my RAM were the same, so, my CPU overclock is not the problem, I think. I've also never messed with overclocking my ram, so... Should I be worried about this benchmark results?
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Ram recomendation for graphics workstation
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I'm building a graphics workstation to run Agisoft Photoscan on, details of exactly how it works aren't hugely relevant here -- just know that it's an utter memory hog, and does lots of mathsy rendery stuff. I'm planning to go with the following parts (though alternative recommendations are welcome): Asus Z10PE-D16 WS Xeon E5-2640 V4 2.4GHz 10-Core (one of -- followed by a second once money allows) 1070 graphics (maybe x2 if we can) I will initially put 32GB of ram in it, followed by an upgrade to 128GB or even 256 once cash allows. (and before anyone says anything, yes this is actually necessary for what we are doing) Does anyone have any recommendations on which ram to use? my go to for these things is Crucial, they have these 2 items: Crucial 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 RDIMM -- CT7200197 -- DDR4 PC4-17000 • CL=15 Crucial 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 RDIMM -- CT7200189 -- DDR4 PC4-19200 • CL=17 I'm not sure which would perform best. Any other options RAM wise gratefully received. (I'm in the UK and subject to company approved suppliers list issues if that makes any difference.) Also what's up with ram pricing at the moment it's gone up loads in the last few weeks? -
So i have a ryzen 1600 and gtx 1070, and all that's left for my build is buying some RAM. Looking at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4k_ErEg-FU it shows that beyond 2400 or even 2666 ram, there is no real change in FPS based on a 1070 system. That being said, I want to get some decent ram, and not pay too much, maybe $110 area would be what I'm looking for. So I'm trying to figure out, how to figure out how much better your RAM will perform at lower frequency and lower CAS. Or more easily, which one of these would be a better buy $104.99DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300)Timing 15-15-15-35Cas Latency 15Voltage 1.2Vhttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231892&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=$109.99DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200)Timing 14-16-16-31Cas Latency 14Voltage 1.2Vhttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313668$114.99DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000)Timing 13-13-13Cas Latency 13Voltage 1.2Vhttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211903&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=$119.99DDR4 2800 (PC4 22400)Timing 16-18-18-36Cas Latency 16Voltage 1.2Vhttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220975&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= $109.99 DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)Timing 15-16-16-35Cas Latency 15Voltage 1.35Vhttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232298&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= the closest thing i've found to show a good way to compare the tradeoffs is this sheet based on ddr3 memory, I'm not sure how different that is for ddr4 memory, etc. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hXCogI15jJpz_0DBigyrufsU2mvsfzanS86DVPwmJ-s/edit#gid=0
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Is it a big difference btwn 2400 mhz and 3200 mhz memory (with Z270 / 7700k) for video éditing, 3D, and gaming ? this one : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S51XHUQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&th=1 or this one : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=twister_B072C5YQGG?th=1
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So, for my new Ryzen 1800x build, I went with Corsair 2 x 8GB DDR4 300MHz RAM (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15W). So far, I haven't been able to get it stable at 2933 (sometimes it will POST, other times it gets stuck and resets the RAM). However, I'm not terribly concerned about that, as I'm hoping a future BIOS update will fix it. My specs are in my profile, but I'm running the Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming K7 with the F3b BIOS (latest official version). Here's the odd part. I've got it running stable at 2666MHz, which is fine for now. I manually set the voltage to 1.35 and the clock multiplier to 26.66. I then set the timings to 15-15-15-15-36 for both channels A & B (even though I'm only running 2 sticks). This works and everything is completely stable, however I'm getting conflicting information from Windows. When I run the CPU-Z version from Gigabyte, it tells me my RAM is running at 16-15-15-15-36. I've attached pictures of the BIOS settings, as well as a screenshot of the CPU-Z report. I'm not so much concerned about the slower CAS timing (though I would like to fix it), I'm more interested in why I'm getting conflicting data. Any thoughts?
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Hello good forum-members, I am about to build a new system with an H110 motherboard. Interestingly enough, the least expensive good-quality 1x8gb stick of memory I can find is a 2666MHz module; however, it has a latency of 15. Is there a way to, while "underclocking" to the 2133MHz limit set by the H110 chipset, also decrease the latency? Or is that hard-and-fast set? Thanks in advance!
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So I'm looking at two different skews of RAM for my laptop. One set it 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 2400Mhz CAS 14 and the other DDR4 2666Mhz CAS 16. Are they going to be about equal in performance?
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Well, the performance you get from your RAM varies according to your Speed (mHz) and the Latency (CAS in case). To you know the performance you get, you need to divide the CAS Latency by the Memory Speed (mHz) and multiplicate for 2000 (There is an picture explaining it better). To make things easier, I've made this calculation of all the frequencies of memories through latency, for when you buy your memory, know exactly which brings you more performance. The results are given in nanoseconds, lower is better. Enjoy it. DDR4 mHz by CAS Latency.xlsx
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I'm scratching my head because of CAS Latency. You see, the Ballistix Elite DDR3 come in multiple flavors. 1866 & 2133. However, does the extra 267Mhz really compensate? The 1866: 9-9-9-27 The 2133: 11-11-11-27 And I just can't figure out which is actually faster? Since one has a cas of 9, & the other one 11... Help me
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I'm falling down a rabbit hole of RAM options. Right now I have an intel CPU but I will be upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 soon so I need to take RAM into consideration. I'm looking at 2 sets in particular: G.Skill TridentZ 4x 8gb 3600 CAS 19 $189 (sale) G.Skill TridentZ 2x 16gb 3200 CAS 16 $169 (sale) I know Ryzen likes 3600 better, but considering I'll be running in dual channel, I wonder if I'll take a performance hit with 4 sticks as opposed to 2. I'll be getting a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite if that matters. My use case leans more towards video editing/rendering than gaming, so I also wonder if having a CAS of 19 even matters for hyperthreaded workloads. I can probably tighten the timings of the 3600 RAM, but with 4 sticks it might be more difficult. Plus I read that it puts strain on the memory controller? I can't really find any information on this besides people saying it on forums. Then again, x4 RGB vs x2 RGB.. XD Please help... my brain hurts >_<
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Hi there, I am looking at the OLOy WarHawk RGB 32GB Ram and I see that they offer two different CAS latency options. One is 18 and the other 19. There is a $10 difference between the two and I am wondering if that is worth the price difference. I am thinking probably not. Thanks! Ram: https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821193
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ram Does cas latency affect igpu performance?
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I've had this question after I bought my pc with some cheap 20 euro 2x4gb ddr4 cas 19 ram and I wondered if the cas will affect the igpu of my ryzen 3 2200g -
Hello, do the SPD Latencies get negative change with a mild overClock to reach 3600 from a 3200 dual channel ram ddr4 kit? basically I want to know if the 30£ savings are worth it with and actually a better set up? Corsair 163301 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit... SPD Latency: 16-18-18-36 VS 18-22-22-42 Latencies With the already set to 3600 MHz corsair RGB pair of ram.... or is this a stupid af question... and I just get one or the other and same sh%t...? this is to be paired with a 3900X and my old 1080 strix... (GPU is next upgrade). I’m a 1080/1440 gamer that I send to a Q9 Samsung tv (and Dota ? on desktop obvs) and a bit of premiere pro (hopefully now that I’m on the amd bandwagon and I can afford more cores....) does this make sense? thanks. also, if by chance the Anthony (the guy that seems to like amd and overclocking...) (the big guy...) reads this!!! You’re the best. You’re second in my favourite presenters on LTT you speak really well and it’s a tone of voice that encourages paying attention to! Ha.
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Hello all, I was wondering as to which of these are better: DDR4 2400 CAS 10, or DDR4 3200 CAS 14? If I understand the formula correctly, a first would have an effective score of 240, whereas the latter would be at 229? Can anyone verify this? Price and quality are roughly the same.
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So I've been wondering for a while now. What is better? A ram with Lower frequency but high CAS. or A ram with High Frequency but low CAS. Let me know what you guys think and if there is already a discussion/ video made for this I'd very much appreciate if someone redirects me to it. If now, well Linus, should know what his next video should be on. :D Thanks.
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Hi. I'm all out of ideas so I decided to ask for help. I have two sets of ram, same brand and same rated speeds. Both are Adata XPG D10's and are rated to run @ 2666 mhz. The recent I bought that was a bundle with my motherboard and processor has timings of 16 18 18 @ 1.2v which is 2x4 gb's that I'm using now. The kit actually can handle an xmp of 2933 mhz which is actually great on my end so I decided to purchase more of the same, and since I needed the ram size upgrade to 16gb for digital works. I wanted to have a little upgrade so I decided to purchase another set of the same brand. The timings on them was never disclosed on the product page which I assume would be the same as the one I bought before. The new ones have timings of 16 16 16 still under 1.2v. Whenever I use the kit together, it actually boots the pc up. Works sometimes and sometimes has some random BSOD's and crashes. At times games won't work or apps randomly crashes. I just wanted to know if I can actually set the timings for both rams manually on my bios to something. I already tried playing with it for a bit but never manually. Just the one option from the motherboard that can get you to set the rated speed and timings automatically. It was named "Memory try it!" something from an MSI motherboard. A b450 bazooka plus. Purchasing a new set of ram actually won't work for me since my budget is really tight as of now and still making ends meet. I work as a digital artist and offers are kind of scarce due to the ongoing pandemic and such. If ever I can set the ram timings manually, what do I need to change them to? Please help me.
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