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  1. Just to give some context, my laptop battery died so I had to run the laptop directly on AC. After removing the battery, I noticed that my laptop don't usually heat as much as it used to (before, its max temp is around 80-90°C but now its around 70 °C). I've also notice that it removing the battery reduced my gaming performance, I figure that maybe I need to adjust some settings in my laptop I tried the following: - Clean windows install - Set the power plan to high performance - Use throttlestop to increase power limit to my laptop Now, I noticed that when I used Throttlestop, the Max TDP is around 25W only, does this have anything to do with the way my laptop performs? Here are the settings I used in Throttlestop, as well as my log file when I try to run a few games It would take a while for me to replace the battery, so any help would be gladly appreciated Edit 1**: I also notice that the max frequency my cpu produces is 2.8 ghz even though its max turbo is at 4 ghz. Also, the frequency drops from 2.8ghz to 800 mhz for a while then goes back right up again 2022-07-05.txt
  2. Hypothetically, if someone built their PC 3 years ago, and was an idiot and didn't look into why their PC/games crash slightly more than often, and system runs slower after being on for 3-4 hours, until recently where they found that their CPU runs at 70c idle and 99c under load, could that permanently damage the CPU permanently? As in, even with the thermal paste is getting replaced and cooler refitted tomorrow, has that hypothetical person just killed performance from their CPU permanently? Say the hypothetical CPU was a Ryzen 5 3600 with no OC for context.
  3. I built a new system with all brand new parts, and when I perform a CPU stress test the temps go to 100ºC immediately, like seconds after CPU Usage goes to 100%, and then just stay there for the entire test with Intel XTU giving me the "Thermal Throttling" warnings. Cinebench R23 30min Stability Test completes just fine and gives me a decent(?) score of 26408 pts, it just thermal throttles for the entirety of the test. The first obvious thing to do was checking the thermal paste and pump mount, so I took it out, verified that the thermal paste was evenly distributed (it was, CPU perfectly covered) and then re-applied it also making sure to _really_ tighten the screws this time. In doing so, I realized I hadn't tightened them as much the first time, so I was feeling quite confident that that was the issue... but nope. Once again, even after a cold boot as soon as CPU usage goes to 100% the temps jump to 100ºC and begins thermal throttling. Here is a CSV export of all sensors from Intel XTU during the 30min Cinebench test: https://sharetext.me/pbc0pr1mgy Look at how it jumps from idle 28ºC to 100ºC in like 7 seconds: https://i.imgur.com/4jpG9Gh.jpeg Summary Re-applied thermal paste, and REALLY tightened the screws Thermal paste was evenly distributed when I took it out the first time. Idle temp 27~31ºC It's a cold day ~14ºC Brand new system (0 dust) Fully tested other components (RAM, SSD, GPU), no issues Manually set Pump and Fans speed to MAX No OC other than enabling Memory's XMP profile (same behaviour with XMP disabled) Not just Cinebench, same behaviour on Intel XTU stress test Top-mounted radiator: https://i.imgur.com/Ixmv7rr.jpeg Cinebench R23 MultiCore 30-minutes test: 26408 pts Full parts list CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Gigabyte AORUS WATERFORCE X 240 60.07 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade RGB DDR4-3600 32GB (2x16GB) CL18 Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade RGB DDR4-3600 32GB (2x16GB) CL18 Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB GAMING AMP Holo Video Card Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact TG Light Tint ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
  4. I recently built a pc and started benchmarks when I got it to boot. The nvme drive only had like 100mbs write and read. This confused me and I checked the Samsung smart app, leading me to discover the cpu was severely thermally throttling because it was at 100 celcius and not coming down. I thought maybe it was a sensor issue, but when I checked it with a heat gun it maintained that same 100 celcius. I already tried switching the nvme slot and it did not aid it at all. What could this be?
  5. I have an RTX 2060 6gb. I’ve boosted the power limit to 113% and the clock speed is around 1800mhz using its boost system. Thermals are around 80-90 degrees during gta5 gameplay with a custom fan curve. During gaming I do see some thermal throttling where I see the temp raise to its 84° limit and then the clock reduces. But the reduced clock is still way above both the advertised base clock and advertised boost clock so can I ignore this and continue gaming? It’s not like it’s under performing at all as I’m still getting higher fps in game which is what I was aiming for.
  6. HWMonitor.txt this is data of my laptop running captured through HWMonitor. My laptop is running into the problem where it starts to throttle as soon as it reaches the 60degree mark but then on idle its running at 50~60 degrees making it constantly throttle. Its gotten to the point where i cant really do anything on it as it keeps lagging. anyone know solutions? the power limit for the laptops been locked by the manufacturers so thats a no go :(
  7. (This is a thank you note to LMG so if it belongs better in a different forum, feel free to move it and remove this blurb afterwards.) My (and others') ThinkPad T480 has had significant thermal issues from the start (see Reddit and NoteBookCheck for details on the problem with discrete GPUs). Unfortunately, I bought it and moved into it before discovering the problem. Since then, Lenovo and its customers have tried different solutions that include: throttle everything if the CPU or GPU get too hot, change the PL1 limit whenever things get warm, and make the (single) fan spin faster or slower. In the last few months, I had trouble understanding the latest changes from Lenovo and experienced inexplicable PL1 throttling whenever I watched your company's videos at 4K. Since I've seen HWINFO64 in a lot of the videos, I tried using it to supplement Throttle Stop and TPFanControl and found that HWINFO64 was extremely useful, especially the time series graphs. I'm sure you never dreamt that someone would use your videos as a stress test on a modern business laptop or that background software that you never explicitly call out would be a major takeaway but that's how things turned out. Thank you so much for the videos and high-quality uploads in every sense of the phrase "high-quality". The following videos were especially helpful: - FAP: YouTube 4K explained - LTT: Why shoot in 8K? Since this post is in the Laptop Forum, then on a practical note for non-LMG people hoping for a solution to "Lenovo battles the Intel heat and fails"...bad news. In HWiNFO64, I observed that whenever the CPU package temperature exceeded 60 degrees Celsius, the PL1 limit began to drop. When the CPU package temperature is less than 55 degrees Celsius for a while, then the limit goes up. The PL1 limit's floor is about 5.5 W, which results in clock speeds below 1 Ghz My long-term plan is to buy a P53 because I bought one recently for someone else and it seems to avoid noticeable throttling even after playing Untitled Goose Game for a while. I'll be re-testing now that I have fancier software tools but I expect it will continue to be a fine choice. My work computer (Latitude 5480) also struggled to remove heat in the past and now cools itself by making a racket. After watching numerous LTT videos and Taran's comments on his Razer Blade, I've concluded that if I have to go with Intel, I have to get something that's chunky enough to have a good cooling solution. One of these days, perhaps AMD will make sufficient inroads into the laptop world. In the short-term, I'm using MSI Afterburner to cap the wattage going to the GPU, TPFanControl to make a terrible din (and move as much air as possible), RW-Everything to disable PL1 and PL2 throttling, and and working as fast as possible to deal with some personal things so I can switch laptops. I may also replace the thermal compound and blow out the fan to buy extra time. I will also have to stop watching LTT videos in 4K and give up on playing computer games.
  8. Even after this undervolt, my CPU hits 100°C and my GPU hits around 92°C.The CPU thermal throttles. My machine is a Dell G3 3579 with an i7 8750H, GTX 1050Ti and 8Gigs of RAM. The undervolt basically did nothing to help. I used a few YT videos to get this undervolt. Can anyone tell me how to fix this without taking the machine apart? TrottleStoplogfile.txt
  9. I'm looking at some laptop internals and I have seen a laptop with two heat pipes and one with one heat pipe. If you have no GPU in the laptop and only 1 fan, does having 2 make any difference. It's still just 1 measly fan cooling the CPU do what benefit does splitting it in 2 do, if anything? I can imagine both would thermal throttle just the same if you played the Witcher on it. Thanks!
  10. I own a dell g7 7588 with i7 8750h and gtx 1060 max q . A lot of people are facing problem with this laptop , some regarding thermal throttling other regarding power limit throttling . For thermal throttling you might need to roll back or rest windows if your frequency drops to 800 mhz . Then use throttlestop to reduce max frequency to 2.5 ghz . you might be able to play games smoothly . now the real problem is power limit throttling . here i noticed while gaming with throttlstop off , my fps dropped and it showed power limit throttling in intel xtu ,so i downloaded hwinfo and monitored both gpu and cpu tdp and then i actually found the real problem with this laptop . IT isn't thermal throttling but the power distribution is equal and quite less then it should be , Both cpu and gpu ran at 30-32 tdp while the rated or required tdp for gpu is 70 tdp and for cpu it is 45 tdp . then i again turned back to throttlestop with 2.5 ghz to check why it ran games so stable . This was because cpu TDP didnt go beyond 20 giving more power to gpu which ran at 60-70 watts . So my question is how to solve this power problem.
  11. Hi I have just upgraded my ram in my laptop from 8GB to 16GB. My cpu temps were fine before, but now I hit 98 degrees I benchmarking. Any suggestions on what I can do?
  12. Hello everyone. I’m trying to get my XFX Radeon RX 590 Fatboy OC+ to a stable and fast frequency. My core clock is at 1545 by default... I am running uningine superposition and it always thermal throttles. So I try undervolting the gpu by every reasonable amount MSI Afterburner allows (6, 12, 18, 25, 31, 37). All of them eventually crashed. And so did standard voltage and frequency (about half the time). The only stable frequency / voltage combination I could get (no throttle) is 1500 / -31mv fyi: this is my first pc build so I’m fairly new but I do know quite a bit about this type of stuff. Also yes, I have tried the two newest gpu driver versions and made sure windows is most up to date. any help is appreciated, so thanks in advance! ps I added a picture of my settings for reference.
  13. Hi All, I'd like to know if anyone has benchmarked the cooling solutions stated in the link below. Are they effective in lowering the temperature or delaying the thermal throttling of these M.2 SSDs? WHAT'S THE BEST M.2 COOLING SOLUTION? ROG HAS 4 NEW SOLUTIONS p.s. In my opinion, this could be a good topic as one of their Youtube videos
  14. I'm having trouble with my system and I don't know why, My 4.5ghz overclock goes down to 0.8ghz for no apparent reason. I tried to run a benchmark on Intel Extreme Tuning Utility just to check my CPU performance and while running the benchmark it is running on 0.8ghz and states that my CPU is thermal throttling. I don't know if this is a virus or software problem. Also my temps are fine throughout the whole time, I'll try to apply a new spread of thermal paste to see if this helps. My specs: i7 6700k NZXT Kraken X61 Gskill RipjawsV 2 x 8gb MSI Z170 M7 MSI R9 390 8gb Corsair RM750 WD Blue 1tb Kingston HyperX 120gb SSD
  15. I'm currently running a 4790k cooled by an H100i(CW-9060009-WW) on a ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero in a H440. I've ran this setup for at least 2 years now and I recently noticed my CPU temps reached 96C last night, this was on a 4.6G OC. I decided to shut down my PC and start transplanting it into a different case, the Phanteks Enthoo Primo for better airflow, since I'd have about 10+ fans running in the case, since we all know the H440 starves for air. After finished transplanting the parts, I booted up the system, and was greeted with a 100C idle temp at start up. CPU utilization never peaked 15%, and it just stuck at 100C. I checked XTU, Package and Core TDP were normal, so I knew my mobo wasn't pushing the TDP intel set. This was all from last night. Today, I removed my H100i, cleaned up the thermal compound(MX-4), and put on the stock cooler to see if it was just the AIO dying. Once I reached my desktop screen, noticed that temps didn't changed, was again at 100C idle temps. Currently I reapplied the thermal compound again, rice grain size and spread evenly, and put the H100i back on, pump is working since I tested it. As I'm writing this, PC is idle with only HWMonitor and Chrome open, CPU still sits at 100C, and it's running at 800MHz. So, did I just burn up my CPU or is my H100i dying? Or Both?
  16. The card is water-cooled and only ever reaches 53 degrees Celsius. Why would it be what looks to be thermal throttling at these temps??? I've tried re flashing the BIOS but it does nothing! At a bit of a loss here, hope you guys can help .
  17. So recently, my laptop which is ASUS R510JX is running HOT like hell and having thermal throttling issues just while surfing web. When I checked the thermal readings, it was something like this; Core #0: 98 °C (208 °F) Core #1: 94 °C (201 °F) Core #2: 95 °C (203 °F) Core #3: 96 °C (204 °F) (used CPUID HWMonitor v1.31.0) I'm not able to watch x264, x265 videos properly. On visiting ASUS's service centre, they're telling me to replace the whole motherboard! *WTH*. The one problem I'm noticing is the fan's running a lot slower even during heavy loads. I tried searching in BIOS to manually change the fan speeds. But there's no such option there unfortunately! (BIOS version: X550JX 206 Aptio service utility). I even tried third party softwares like SpeedFan, but no luck there too. Help!
  18. I have this problem while playing BF1 (usually in Amiens) where my fps go down to ~20 after like an hour or two of playing, so I thought it could be thermal throttling, but when I go to speccy to check my temperatures, the CPU is only to about 40/50 degrees and the GPU to ~60ºC. The only weird thing is that my CPU Fan speed gets up to about 6800RPM while I have never seen it go above 6700RPM. I can get my fps back to normal by ALT-TAB-ing to desktop for like a minute until the temperature goes down a little bit, and this method can work for like 15 minutes and then again the fps drop. So I thought, is my CPU thermal throttling at 50ºC? or am I wrong? I don't know, I don't think is normal, I'd guess it should thermal throttle when it reaches like 80ºC or so, right? Is there anything I could do? My specs are: CPU: AMD FX8320 @3.5 GHz (stock cooler, sorry) GPU: Nvidia GTX 560 1GB RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Sniper @ 1600MHz DDR3 Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 OS: Windows 10 Pro x64
  19. I recently purchased an FX-8370 with a gigabyte 970 motherboard and 16gb of Ram for around $70 with the intention of turning it into a LAN box/ Backup setup. However Once i set it up i noticed the temps get out of hand very quickly which doesnt make sense considering the cooler i have is a Cryorig H7 which should be more than adequate for a non-OC FX chip. Does anyone have any ideas or has seen this I am very concerned/confused considering the "Max Temp" on AMD's site is listed at 61C. Below i will list what i have done prior. Checked the thermal paste and it looks good and seems like it has good pressure. reinstalled windows to try to see if it was due to a bad chipset driver. Tried to manually max out the cooling fan to see if it was not controlling it properly. Reset all motherboard settings. Thanks for any help regarding this. UPDATE: Just to be clear it goes to this temp and throttles this appears to be the limit. setup FX-8370 gigabyte 970-UD3 16gb RAM r9 290 evga 550w PSU cryorig c7 cryorig thermal paste(included with cooler)
  20. Hi There, I have a Ryzen 2700X and i have noticed in HWinfo that a lot of my cores are dropping well below base clock of 3.7ghz. I am just using the supplied Wraith Prism cooler. I have enabled PBO in the bios so it is auto boosting to well over 4ghz regularly but also dropping way below base. My voltages seem very high too but i asked about that on this forum a while ago and was reassured that being over 1.4v is normal for this cpu. Temperature wise i have had it just above 70 degrees at load (photo processing in Adobe Lightroom) but it drops to the high 30s at idle. I was wondering whether the relatively high temp of around 70 degrees was causing the system to thermal throttle and dial back the clock. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  21. Hi, My 4 Year old i7 4790k just somehow started to Thermal Throttle as soon as it hits 70*C I`ve now Achieved this in several games like Assassins´s Creed Origins, Gta 5 and like you can see in attached screenshot also in the intel xtu while running the cpu Stress Test, which indicates me that is indeed thermal throttling However the cpu is not Overclocked and apart from changing the Thermal Paste after this error first occured i did not change anything on the hardware site compared to the last 4 years on which it ran well I am using: i7 4790k, cooled by a single fan 140mm corsair all in one water cooling (Dont know the exact product name anymore) Some cheap 60€ asus mainboard Asus Strix gtx 980 Im also using 4 case fans
  22. No matter what temperature limit in MSI Afterburner I set for my GTX 1080, it won't stick to It's currently set at 75 degrees but running at 81 degrees. I'm a bit stuck because temp limits work fine on my other card and had previously worked fine a few weeks ago. Temp limits are because of bitcoin mining just in case anyone was wondering why.
  23. Just bought a new gaming laptop and tried out some latest games like Sekiro. I am using Intel extreme tuning utility to check up on my temps and others. Running Sekiro is fine, there was no performance drop whatsoever and I havent yet seen my frames drop, but when i checked up on the intel app it says "Thermal Throttling: Yes". My question is, is this a bad thing ? and if it is how do i fix it? I researched some of the same problems... but the thing is I do not experience any drop in my performance when gaming. Would love to hear some suggestions, thanks in advance. HP Pavilion Gaming 15-cx0056wm Specs: Intel Core i5-8300H Nvidia GTX 1050Ti 1TB HDD 8gb ram at 2666Mhz
  24. I have a 2 year old PC with an AMD Fx-8350. I have recently had problems with it thermal throttling within the first 20 seconds of turning it on. I have an enermax water cooler, I checked it and it seems to be working just fine. I am stumped on what to do.
  25. As the title implies I'm looking to use Liquid Metal ( https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/ ) for my new Laptop a MSI GP73 Leopard 693 which will be arriving Friday. I've spent quite some time researching the application of LM and my primary concerns now are the reactions between LM & Copper. For reference http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/something-to-think-about-liquid-metal-compatibility-with-copper-heat-sinks.800890/ From what I've been able to resolve the only solution to this would be to Nickle plate the Copper heat pipes that make contact with the LM compound. I have yet to have a chance to break into the laptop and examine all of the specifics. Air flow between the heat pipes and CPU or GPU, or any other scenarios. One other possible solution would be to use a nickle sheet in between the heat pipes and LM. If I could find a thin enough and small enough sheet. I'm not sure if I'm worrying to much about the alloy that forms, Which seems to less of a concern over time because the Copper-Gallium alloy will have a negative charge negating any further reaction. At the same time possibly becoming a worse solution for heat dispersion. Any suggestions or insights would be welcomed! Down with thermal throttling! I also plan on using an exhaust vacuum if the one I have chosen will work with my laptop. Formated on cellphone Edits : Formatting
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