Yoshi Moshi

But I'll be ok right, because I can't go below ambient temperature of the room I'm in? If I have a M.2 stored at room temperature outside of my case without damaging it, I assume I'll be fine watercooling it inside my system running at a temperature greater than room temperature?

I got a waterblock for my M.2, are there any benefits to watercooling it and having it at lower temperatures. Is it possible to overclock it with the additional temperature below thermal throttle poitn?

I don't come anywhere close to 120 FPS though on the latest games at 4k ultra.

Best one is the cheapest one that you can put a water block on

The 3090 may seem expensive, sure $1500. But consider if you got a 3080 now for $700, and then get the one with more VRAM in 2021. That one with more VRAM only has to cost more than $800 ($100 increase in price, likely will cost more than that, I suspect $1000), to overall cost more than the 3090. Would you rather camp outside of MC and fight bots to get one card or two, not to mention reselling one card vs two? $1,500 (Price of 3090) < $700 (RTX 3080 10 GB) + $X (RTX 3080 20 GB, some price greater than $800) Would you rather spend more money or less. If spending less money means more performance?

You should get it because it's the only non-reference PCB design that has a waterblock that you can purchase at MSRP. All the reference PCBs are from some manufacturers that I have never heard of before, so if you don't trust Asus, probably can't trust these other manufactures that I've never heard of before. Get the non-OC version and put a waterblock on it, overall would cost the same as the OC, and overclock it to get performance better than the OC version.

so does that guy have a card with larger caps or smaller ones? the TUFs I have seen have the smaller caps, not a single larger one

Oh ok, well from what I've seen from the card on youtube is that it has the smaller capacitors so you should be fine I can confirm from my 3090 non OC which is in my system now, has all of the smaller caps

Also are you saying the 3080 Asus TUF OC crashes for your to desktop?? I checked my 3090 Asus TUF (non OC) and it all the smaller capacitors, not a single larger one.

all the leaks that look legit, show the 3070 with 16 GB You want to play 4k ultra on the latest games with ray tracing, there's a game coming out in a few weeks, just 7 weeks after the launch of the card, whose recommended specs from the developer require 11 GB of VRAM to play 4k ultra, meaning the only gaming cards are the RTX 2080 Ti and the RTX 3090, at last for now. So the RTX 3080 10 GB won't be able to play all games maxed out at 4k in a little more than a month. It's already outdated, and a clear need for more VRAM. Does it need 20 GB, no, but it needs more. See example below.

or releases the cards with double VRAM, because the rumored value option from AMD will have 16 GB, which even the 3080 10 GB doesn't come close to in terms of VRAM. But what do you know the value option from Nvidia, 3070 16 GB version will have the same amount of VRAM

same thing with the non OC version for the 3090, every capacitor is the good one not the bad one. It's also THE ONLY non-reference PCB design card (besides the FE) that you can pick up for MSRP (non-OC version) that will have a water block It's also one of the higher stock cards, so it's a good option

Just 7 weeks after the RTX 3080 10 GB was launched, it will already be insufficient to do 4k ultra. Look at the recommended specifications below. I couldn't agree with the OP more. Or be smart and just get a RTX 3090 and not have to a second card between now and the launch of the 4000 series.

I want 4k because the new consoles will do 4k 4K to 1080p is a bit of a difference, after I got my display a few days ago, and after using it for several hours, looking at HD videos on Youtube has started to look really blurry, because I have gotten accustomed to 4k. You know what they say, once you go 4k, you can't go back to 1080p. It's comparable to the difference between 720p and 1080p. After using 1080p for a long time, looking at 720p just looks blurry and awful. I had a 1440p monitor for a few years, and it's not enough noticeable difference to create the same effect in shock of difference between 1080p and 1440p. Besides, the 3080 and 3090 will probably be bottlenecked by 120 Hz 1440p panel, meaning you'll be at a constant 120 Hz. It's why I got a 4k 120 Hz monitor. Even the most graphically demanding games like Control, on max graphical settings with ray tracing and DLSS, I'm coming no where close to 120 Hz at 4k. I think it will be several years before I'm bottlenecked by 4k 120 Hz panel.

For those who camped out at Microcenter, waterblocks for the Asus TUF 3080 and 3090 are now available for pre-order at EKWB. My MC had 2 Asus TUF and 10 MSI Gaming Trio for the 3090. I was thankfully the first person in line (waited for 36 hours, second person joined me and waited in line for 29 hours) and was able to get a TUF card, and specifically avoided the MSI card because I knew that at the time of purchase, there wasn't a manufacturer creating a waterblock for it. I haven't heard of a MC having cards on the reference PCB, or the Asus Strix, or the FE. So the only hope at getting a card that could put a waterblock on was Asus TUF, and thankfully I got one. Had I not been one of the first two people camping outside of microcenter, I would have gotten a card I would have never been able to put a WB on.

I think this will change with the $500 consoles being 4k machines, it drove me to get a 4k monitor.

I get your point, and can see where your coming from. I guess it all depends on what the resell prices will be, which we have no way of knowing. All we can do is look at similar situations: The purchase price and resell value of the RTX 2080 when the RTX 2080 Super came out. The purchase price of and resell value of a RTX 2080 Super when RTX 3### series was announced. Vs The purchase price and resell value of the RTX 2080 Ti when RTX 3### series. I guess we have no way of knowing the resell values of the RTX 3080 10 GB, RTX 3080 20 GB, and RTX 3090 will be.

Do you agree with below: $699 + (some cost greater than >$800.01) > $1,499

I agree buying every card that is better every time you a better card comes out you will spend a lot of money. And if you want to play 4k ultra, and you buy a RTX 3080 now, you'll have to buy another card next year.

You sell your 10GB for $550 next year and buy the 20GB (so you've spent $1050) - Disagree, $699 - $550 = Loss of $149 I assume your going with RTX 3080 having a MSRP of $1000? I can't tell from your post, but $1,000 seems reasonable. You sell your 20GB for $750 in 2022 (this card is just one year old and has a ton of VRAM, remember) $1,000 - $750 = Loss of $250 Total Lost: $300 - Disagree, $149 + $250 = $399 People realize it isn't that much better than the 20GB 3080, so it isn't worth as much as you might think. You sell your 3090 for $1100 Total Lost: $400 - Yes So buying two 3080 cost you more money when you consider shipping two video cards over one, insurance on the package, signature required vs one. Unless you want to take the risk of shipping a $750 item to a customer that may claim they never got it, or the post office losses it. We can guess what the resell prices will be, to argue one way or the other, but my bet is that buying one card over two will be cheaper. $699 + (some cost greater than >$800.01) > $1,499 Buying two 3080s over a 3090 Overall purchase price There only has to be a $101.01 price increase for the RTX 3080 20 GB for you to overall spend more money on two cards vs one if you buy a RTX 3080 10 GB in 2020 for $699

Buy RTX 3080 10 GB in 2020 for $699 Buy RTX 3080 20 GB in 2021 for > $700.01 Sell your RTX 3080 10 GB in 2021 Sell your RTX 3080 20 GB in 2022 Above will cost more than below, in terms over how much money you spent vs what you get back from selling your cards. Buy RTX 3090 in 2020 for $1,499 Sell RTX 3090 in 2022 Do you disagree, and if so why?

Watch Dogs Legions comes with the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 as a free game bundle when you purchase the card. The irony behind it is that if you have a 3080 10 GB, you don't meet the minimum VRAM requirements to play the game at 4k Ultra, per the developer's recommended specifications to do so, 11 GB is recommended. Look under 4k ultra with ray tracing on. If you want to play 4k ultra from now until the RTX 4### series, it will likely be cheaper for you to get the RTX 3090 now in 2020 over the RTX 3080 10 GB in 2020. Nvidia is releasing a RTX 3070 16 GB and a RTX 3080 20 GB in 2021. The value card RTX 3070 16 GB to be released in 2021 will have more VRAM than the RTX 3080 10 GB. Nvidia clearly believes that 10 GB is not enough VRAM if the most popular card in 2021 is going to have 16 GB of VRAM. Nvidia likely knows what they are doing, and limited the RTX 3080 to 10 GB so that way they can sell us a card in 2021 with more VRAM. Yes the RTX 3090 is expensive, but consider this. If you get the RTX 3080 10 GB VRAM in 2020 for $699, and decide that 10 GB of VRAM is no longer enough VRAM for 4k ultra (this will be the case in a few weeks actually) and upgrade to the RTX 3080 20 GB in 2021, it only has to cost $101.01 more to have it cost more than the RTX 3090. I suspect the RTX 3080 20 GB will have a price increase of more than $101.01 over the RTX 3080 10 GB. This will especially be the case when you consider reselling two video cards over one. RTX 3080 10 GB for $699 in 2020 + RTX 3080 20 GB in 2021 > RTX 3090 in 2020 for $1,499 It's ironic because this game comes with the RTX 3080 10 GB, and it doesn't meet the requirements for 4k ultra. Between now and the RTX 4### series, it's likely that playing the latest games at 4k ultra with ray tracing on will require even more than 11 GB of VRAM.

Yes I used the buttons physically located beneath the monitor, behind the screen on the bottom (not software buttons, but physical push buttons). Still couldn't get 144 Hz How do I create the custom profile?

I did. I pushed buttons on the monitor itself, located physically at the bottom of the monitor. I went down to settings, then went to the second page, and turned 144 Hz from off to On. Just like in the video. Is this what you mean by monitors menu?

I have the following monitor CG437K, which appeared on Linus Tech Tips on Youtube. He goes over it at about 5:30 time frame in the video below. Here's the information on my RIG that I'm using to drive this display Motherboard: ASUS X570 ROG Strix e-gaming RAM: 32 GB 3200 MHz CPU: AMD 3900X GPU: Asus TUF 3090 Power Supply: 1000 W Storage: 1 TB Sargent PCIE 4.0 I try and following the video. I have two display port cables going from my 3090 to the monitor. I get 120 Hz at 4k no issues. It shows up as only one monitor now. However in Nvidia control panel I still have 120 Hz However I noticed that if I go down to 1920x1440p I have the option for 144 Hz. How do I get 144 Hz at 4K though?