MrMoonboots

So, now after the chipset driver install the balanced power plan uses 1.45-1.5 on average and I see no drops below 1V So much for that fix. Anyone else having a similar result, or? Just went back to Windows High Performance because it's still the only working solution.

Hey guys, AMD released a new chipset driver hoping to address some issues with their ryzen balanced power plan https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2019/07/30/community-update-5-let-s-talk-clocks-voltages-and-destiny-2

So I'll be honest, I didn't do too much testing after the settings wolfsbane suggested helped so much. I've actually been enjoying my PC, leaving it on, it hasnt had those random shutdowns I experienced. (Settings for me being PBO off, Windows High Performance with min/max states between 1%-%100 What I'm seeing now in CPU-Z makes a lot more "Sense" to me, I suppose. Instead of my idle voltages sitting at 1.4 and dropping to 0.9 occasionally, it has completely flipped. When my computer sits idle now with these settings it does so at 0.9, with occasional peaks of 1.4V. (They happen about every 3-4 seconds. I'm not sure if that's too often or not, but its better than it was) The "Ocean tide" effect of my fans has slowed, I hear them spin up on their own far less. Also, my temperatures at idle have settled to around 35-45 and fluctuate FAR less So maybe the Zen2 is made to be able to handle 1.4V all the time for years on end and is totally cool with freaking out and boosting its clock speed to a full 4.2GHz anytime I open an empty text file.. Somehow a part of me still doubts that. I feel like if this were the case AMD would have already been saying so very loudly by this point, (AMD Rob said occasional peaks to 1.4 were normal, he did not specify sustained and in fact was hoping to get information from people experiencing this) But if I can let my PC relax at idle like it is right now, potentially extending its lifespan, and being able to take full advantage of the 3700X when I want to, why the hell wouldn't I do that instead? I feel like/hope that whatever recommendations and fixes AMD comes out with will probably end up with people seeing similar results. Because this seems a lot more sane. The one thing I'm curious about is just a question I have from a lack of experience. I know the max safe voltage on these under load is around 1.45, sometimes even idling I see my voltage peak to 1.515 at highest. It's occasional, but I do see it go over 1.5 Is that something to worry about?

Hey man, I made a thread about this and a couple of us found out if you turn PBO off and switch your power plan to Windows High Performance, and edit the plans minimum processor setting to 10%, max to 100% it does a great job of letting your CPU relax when you aren't doing anything, doesn't sacrifice performance when you are, and PBO isn't so trigger happy from just moving your mouse around. At least it's worked for me (My idle voltage seems to steady itself around 0.9 with a few peaks to 1.4 here and there with these settings together), try it and let me know if it helps out!

I tried this too, and funny enough it works great! My voltages vary enough between 0.9 and 1.4 I'm certain if I checked hwinfo64 the average might be around 1v or so. With PBO off my CPU isnt boosting like crazy anymore at the slightest nudge either. Thanks so much wolfsbane! This is what Ill be using for now while I wait for more information. I was recommended to look into turning on "Cool N Quiet" in my BIOS settings by a few people but for the life of me I can't find it anywhere. Is it not an ASUS option? Is there an equivalent I might look for? @Master Disaster I will definitely try a few more things here soon, two hours and I'll be off work and I'll try some things and post results.

I'm concerned about this with my random shutdown yesterday, too but I'm hoping its just a BIOS update issue as Disaster stated, I'm certain my temps didn't merit a shutdown but if it keeps happening I may run another stress test and/or reapply my thermal paste if necessary. I keep hearing these CPUs are pretty tough and can handle a lot and I'm really hoping thats the case.

I'm surprised to hear high performance had this effect, but then a lot of recommendations seem to have had different effects for different people. I'm going to make a point to play with these settings today

I am awake now and going to try some recommendations I found on other forums and report back some results (In between and after work when I can)

I lambasted the forum for not being able to maintain consistency on their recommendations. I know it's not LTT forum's fault. Its just annoying. Two weeks ago I posted here and could not get an answer to my question before everyone got done quizzing me about why I would ever want to buy a 2700X when the 3700X was right around the corner. Now I'm back with the 3700x, with legitimate concerns, met by fanboys like xg32 angrily telling me I should've known better, it's "My fault the zen2 is sitting at 1.4 at its default stock manufacturer settings with no changes" and its "My fault for not just waiting" with no context to understand any of these issues could pop up prior to the build. Tell me more about how I should have "Just researched every one of the hundreds of possible failures that could occur in every part, including the unreleased ones i was rec'd prior and if it happens to me I shouldve just expected it" it's incredibly productive in answering the question

New update. I left my computer on (In windows Power Saver mode) and turned the monitor off and tried to go to sleep when eventually I heard something click. The default RGB turned on inside the case. The PC randomly shut off. And there was a red light on the motherboard indicating a problem with the CPU according to the motherboards user guide. I didn't think to nab a picture. What do I do from here? Anything I should do to find out what might have caused this?

Well, I initially began looking into this issue when I noticed my fans would spin up almost every ten seconds with nothing going on. While it made a very soothing ocean tide like effect I didn't really understand what was happening. As soon as I looked into "Zen2" on google and tooled search results to about a month ago I got sucked into this rabbit hole. While frustrating, I did manage to learn a whole lot about my computer I didn't before. Thank you for your input, glad to hear from others with the zen2 about this. I am going to look into the fan settings @leadeater and see if maybe I can help it. Thank you! @Master Disaster Thats good to know. Thanks again for your help

I appreciate it and honestly just hope I'm overreacting, being its my first build, I don't know the ins and outs of every one of the hundreds of things that could go wrong with every single part, and would have no context to anticipate these numbers. And honestly really no frame of reference to understand it when I saw them anyways. I'm not super tech savvy so I don't know whats safe, and there seem to be two groups of people I'm hearing from: "1.4 at idle will kill your CPU in a few months" vs "1.4 at idle is normal for AMD and you have nothing to worry about" Thats why these are the kind of insights I was hoping for posting this thread. If you're not worried that calms my nerves a lot.

Maybe I'm not understanding here. You're telling me once its done it should go back to idleish, you mention quick bursts of instant power. But like I said, I don't just occasionally touch 1.4V. I sit there. My clock speeds are generally 4ghz and higher. With nothing that would necessarily warrant a "Boost" What am I missing?

Sure, keep piling on with the "You should have waited", this same forum was telling me three weeks ago to "Stop my 2700x build in its tracks to wait for the 3700x" but whatever, 180s like this are totally understandable when you can't justify release problems like this. I'm just glad you're acknowledging my complaints as valid. Thanks buddy This release has been garbage.

Spare me the "Dont be an early adopter", this is my first build and I'm just trying to play video games, not beta test AMDs new products. I wasn't aware there was even a 3700X until I started putting it together, and how was I supposed to know, someone whos not tech savvy, with all the hype around the 3000 series that buying this would be a bad move? It was this forum that told me to do it. Miss me with that patronizing BS.