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On 11/28/2018 at 10:30 PM, James Aplin said:

That fish tank one looks a different way keeping the CPU cool, using the fish tank as a reservoir, and a pump to suck the water through the CPU then return back to the fish tank, also having lights on in the PC fish tank will build up algae, the other picture you got a bunch of elves working for you, where did you ever find elves that are willing to work in the PC industry, dont forget to offer a bowl of cream.

Those elves are going to melt to death. Or possibly just get really gross with mineral oil.

Just now, ThatBlockishWay said:

Okay, I think Im pickin up what youre layin down but just for clarity as long as Ive bought it during the rebate time Im fine?

The rebate is most likely provided by the manufacturer, so it'll still be there even when the product goes off sale on newegg. You're fine.

1 minute ago, ThatBlockishWay said:

I havent bought it yet, I was gonna sort the rebate thing before I did. So say I buy it during the sale, it comes in the mail, then I get the serial: do you think the rebate would still be good since I purchased it during the time of the rebate? I'll check some of my other purchases to see if newegg lists the serial number just in case, if thats the case thatd clear up alot of this confusion...

The mail in rebate will last though the sale. The name implies that you get it in the mail (even if it's online, that's just how they used to work), they're not going to put a time limit on it.

Typically, you send off the rebate after you get your item, as the rebate comes with your item. I don't see how you could have the rebate without buying the product? Could you possibly look at your receipts and see if it lists your product's serial number?

The rebate will still work after Newegg's sale ends.

Tbh, corsair vengeance is priced pretty reasonably. In USD, there's a $20 difference between the RGB and non-RGB models.

Keep in mind, the 8600k is on a different socket type than that of your current cpu, so you will be needing a new mobo as well.

1 minute ago, Drbaccon said:

That really sucks I had my heart set on a 2700x for various reasons if I went up to a atx mb how small/portable could I make the PC do you know of a case

PS thank you

I'll look around. I keep linking PC part picker for a reason, it's a pretty useful resource. I'd try looking for stuff there.

So from what I'm piecing together, this is a VR-intended rig for work, which needs to be small format for portability, and you need multiple PCI slots on the board for various cards?

You may have to jump over to an intel CPU to get what you want. An intel i5-8600k will give you very similar performance to the Ryzen 2700x, for a similar price. It sounds like you're in development work for VR, the 8600k will be enough to run VR games and do all the compiling you need. The main benefit to the Ryzen CPUs is multi-core performance, which doesn't really show in games anyways. The 8600k has a faster single-core speed at the base clock, so it'll be better for games. If you can afford it, get an 8700k. (Note, for the 8600k or 8700k, you will need to purchase your own cooler, as they do not come with stock coolers.)

The reason I say you need to switch to intel is because, quite simply, there aren't any mATX wifi boards available for ryzen (AM4), and that's the only way for you to get all the slots you need, excluding PCIe riser cards, which wouldn't fit in a mATX form factor anyways, and would split your bandwidth.

So back up top, you'll get the best performance from a Z370 board, but if you're trying to keep a budget, a B360 board will do well too. Don't get any H310 boards, as (from my understanding and limited research) they have reduced bandwidth to their PCIe lanes.

Sparing no expense, go for the MSI Z370 Gaming PRO AC, a mATX board with built-in wifi, and four PCIe lanes: two full-length and two small PCIe slots. Comes USB 3.1 slots in the back, as well as one USB 3.1 Type C. If you need to save a bit, maybe the EVGA Z370 Micro ATX.

Hope this helps!

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

btw mITX boards mostly come with WiFi. I myself recommend the Asrock X470 Gaming-ITX/ac board.

I think they still need an extra PCI slot after WiFi for a VR headset adapter of some sort? And the USB hub. All the ITX/ac boards are only going to have 1 PCIe x16 slot for their GPU.

@Jurrunio is right on the money. Unfortunately, ITX boards are usually more expensive. I'm used to building budget so I'm coming into this at a bit of a different angle. 
 

Just now, Drbaccon said:

The sensors for the rift work better with this card.

Not sure what card you're talking about? 
I would recommend something from this list.

Just now, Drbaccon said:

I thought the x variant was the overclocking one I may have my chips backwards

All ryzen chips can be overclocked, so they both can be overclocked. X just overclocks more.
 

1 minute ago, Drbaccon said:

Sorry I left out a key factor I want to put a ryzen 2700 x in it

Oh okay. I was linking intel boards.

1 minute ago, Drbaccon said:

I'm looking for a motherboard that has extra PCIe slots for either a wireless HTC unit fir the Vive or a USB 3 hub high bandwidth for my Oculus rift I need this PC portable cuz I carry it around with me for work 

So what do you need in total?
For the USB 3.0 you can find a case with USB3 front I/O and use a Mobo with a few USB 3.0 in the rear, that shouldnt be an issue. So you need one slot for a wifi adapter, one for the vive?

Just now, Jurrunio said:

pretty much all cards use full length PCIe x16

Was talking about the wifi card, not GPU.

Just now, Jurrunio said:

I thought most mATX boards get multiple PCIe slots (apart from crazy boards like the Maximus 11 Gene), that's why I'm confused.

Yeah, i think there's just some confusion on the boards. 
 

Like Jurrunio said, most mATX boards have multiple PCI slots. Unless your card needs a full-length PCIe x16 slot? Is that what you're saying?

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

You mean can you use PCIe x1 for a WiFi card? Yes.    Don't sacrifice the graphics card for WiFi though

I think he's just looking for mATX boards that have multiple PCI slots for both the graphics card and WiFi card. 

(Also you keep beating me to these posts. I might need to get off my phone and actually go to my desk )

You sure? Check PC Part picker, there's plenty of them available.

MSI B360M Pro

MSI Z370M Mortar

Gigabyte B360M

Or, get a board with built in wifi, like a MSI Z370M AC.

Seems like a good plan, but depends on what you're focusing on.

Any modern i5 equivalent CPU worth it's salt will be a good upgrade, but you want to try to squeeze the most out of this upgrade to prevent having to come back and upgrade again later. If you go ryzen, try to stretch for the 2700 or 2700X. If not, get an 8600k or try to stretch the extra for an 8700k.

You'll get better single-core (gaming) performance from an 8600k, but the 2700 will give you a nice boost for your photo editing. I'd recommend the 8600k outright, but I'm a bit of an Intel purist so take that as you may.

They have it secured at four corners. Looks solid to me 

Found some more.

1 minute ago, imreloadin said:

ib4 we find out that all 3 systems that OP listed actually belong to them

Haha, honestly I don't mind the one with the figures, if it weren't some proprietary system that looks like it's ripped out of a Dell (unless I'm wrong, but that PSU and those cables just scream Optiplex or something similar to me).

They'd most likely float in mineral oil though

1 minute ago, Emanbaird said:

The motherboard heavily impacts overclocking performance and reliability,the vrms on lower end boards are a bit skimpy and can get hot and burn out if they aren't cooled properly

 

Exactly. It all comes down to how important overclocking is to you. An 8600k should be more than enough for most of your applications at base clock speed, assuming this is for gaming + homework. Even if you plan on streaming or you have computer-intensive classes like coding or engineering it'll be good.

As far as features, maybe look into a B board instead of a enthusiast-level Z board. Something like a B360-A Prime or MSI Mortar B360 if you want to save. The main thing you miss out on is overclocking potential, but keep in mind the 8600k still turbos to a decent speed without overclocking.

Wondering if anyone else has seen a build that sends a tingle down their spine. Something like these:

Main thing I see is the 1TB SSD, you could get more for your money with a 250GB SSD as a boot drive and a 2TB Hard drive. Both are around $50 US, so you'll get twice the long-term storage, and keep the quick boot times for your OS and big files (like games). 

Just now, Jurrunio said:

PCPP only shows new boards, so LGA 1155 boards are bound to be overpriced.

The cheapest on PCPP is equal (+/- $5) to that last ebay listing, so if its just a matter of price and not wanting to risk buying on ebay from a Chinese distributor, it's an option. Buying for legacy parts is rough to begin with.

Have you looked for anything locally? If you have any big repair shops in your area that may be worth a shot.

Check PCPP. Sort by price to find all boards currently for sale and listed on their site.