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Small bump. If i can't reuse the pads, any recommendation on what to order? Brand, thickness, amount etc?

I cant rma it because i bought it used, and RMAing it from where i live (israel) is a pain in the butt... Ill probably just order a generic replacement or put 2 ippc 3000rpm noctuas and call it a day. I already dismantled the cooler. Thinking whether i should replace the thermal pads as well? They all stayed nicely on the heatsink, so i believe i can just put them back on as is? They have minor dust residues on them, not sure how much itll affect thermals....also, they'll stay "bare" like shown in the pic (with the cooler dismantled) without creating contact with the pcb till ill get my fans (1-2 weeks i believe). Will that somehow affect thermals? I rather not deal with the pads unless i have to. Any idea which thickness i need in case ill replace them? Thanks.

Thanks for the help. The jetstream doesn't have the 4 fan configuration like the gamerock premium (its 2 fans, but each is double). Can't be certain if itll fit/work the jetstream. So annoying that its so hard to find a replacement fan...im thinking of just buying 2 120mm ippc 3000rpm noctuas and ghetto strap them on the heatsink...idk. I'm lost. Also, its impossible to remove the shroud/fans without removing the entire cooler. I tried to do it, but i didn't manage to release it despite releasing all the screws that i believe were neccessary. Didn't wanna force it. This crap just makes me sad. Anyone has a solution?

Hi, One of my fans on my palit jetstream 1080ti died...i can't rma it. Anyone know if i can find replacement fans for this card? In any case of failure, does the arctic accelero cooler fit this card? I'm really bummed out as i can't use the card properly now, it just sits there and i want to solve the problem asap.

You won't degrade your chip @1.4.... Even this is kind of babying the chip. You can run 1.4 24/7 with 0 worries. If you're that worried, play with the llc setting so that when its idle it'll be lower, but it gets a bit more juice when it needs. Either way, 1.4 is perfectly fine as long as temps are good. Only around 1.45 you may start to think about degradation, and even so, were talking something minor (if temps are good) . above that , approaching 1.5 for 24/7, that's where true degradation will start to be an issue.

Use HCI memtest. Picks up errors pretty good when done properly. Run it overnight for a basic check, or if you wanna be thorough , 1500-2000%. I'm also a big believer in the blend test of prime95 , set under custom to around 90-92% of free ram you have . spotted my ram oc inatabilitties pretty much every time, usually its rather quick also. I think HCI + prime custom blend through the entire night (separately of course!) Is an excellent way to validate ram oc stability. I can say that for example, in my own personal experoance, prime and hci both picked up memory errors within minutes, while memtest86 that ran for like 8 hours reported that everything is good. Memtest86 is not as good for varifying oc, its more for checking the integrity of the module itself.

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Nope, manual voltage indeed, 1.385v with llc 2, have been running and tested for months, I changed nothing besides the frequency (multiplier) and turned off smt. Thats why its so weird. I know it can go up to the higher 80's without danger , but since with smt on it never passes 70-71, I didn't see a point in continuing. This is just strange. I'm really curious why this is happening. I put it back on smt enabled and the temps went to be normal again....that's really the only variable that changed.

so, i have a ryzen 5 1600 and since i basically game for 99% of the time i get to use my pc (well that and netflix) i decided to play with the SMT setting a bit to see how much i actually gain in games, plus if i can push my oc slightly higher. so i disabled SMT, kept the same settings exactly as they were (same vcore ,soc etc) and just upped the cpu frequency from 3.9 to 3.95 ( 3.95 used to crash on prime, so i wanted to see if it holds now with SMT OFF). to my surprise, even though i read everywhere that temps with SMT OFF should be lower, they were actually higher, and not just that, they rose much quicker (time wise). it reached a point where i stopped the test because it started to quickly surpass 70 and didn't show a sign of stopping...this is weird as with SMT on, there is a much slower temp rise as well as a lower max temp in general. anyone care to explain? thanks.

Speeds looks fine on gpuz....do you play with vsync on? CPU usage is low coz ryzen 5 1600 with its 6 cores and 12 threads is an overkill for most games... They don't utilize it maximally yet. Most Games from 2016 for example in my case utilize like 10-15% at times (cpu). Is the gpu usage 98-100% if you run heavan benchmark or firestrike ?

old thread, but reading it i just couldn't stay silent and not respond. gotta love random internet people throwing some words like voltage, damage, blah blah. im happy you solved your problem, im sad i didnt see it earlier to save you some headache and anxiety. just for future knowledge, there is nothing you can do in afterburner, NOTHING that will damage your card. your max voltage and power draw is set in the cards bios, you can crank AB all the way up, it doesnt matter, nothing that you do through this program will override the cards bios limits. hell, even if you modify the bios, almost all cards have a predetermined hard limit which is safe (unless its an LN2 card). nvidia really watches over their products. yeah, so again, happy you found out its the driver, and be careful when listening to some dramatic statements with computer buzz words. im happy you didnt end up RMAing your card , saved you some headache...

Its OK now, specially for the price, but gaming goes towards threads, so its faith is the same as the i5's ...it's legitimacy is always on the line. Within a year or two you'll see it struggling with over 90% usage on modern titles. If you're on a budget however and want a good performance for a year or so, sure , why not. If you want a CPU that'll last long term and handle modern titles easily without castrating your newly bought high end GPU, don't get i3, or even an i5.

Also ram? All at stock ? No xmp etc?

Did you oc your cpu....?

This....definitely.

I will respectfully disagree with you. Sorry. A decent b350 with air cooling that blows partially on the vrm, and good case ventilation should have no problem whatsoever in running 1800x @stock, specially for casual use/gaming.

Only if he'll oc it (and overvolt)...otherwise no problem. 6 core chips are also fine on a b350. But yeah, if you plan to oc an 8 core ryzen, a good mobo is a must.

Nice. That's great speed to voltage . I'll again emphasize, after cinabench as an initial tester, realbench and IBT with emphasis on realbench are IMO the best tools. No need for anything else. If it passes both at the conditions I mentioned (prolonged realbench with the amount of memory you have , no throttle/crash and IBT on very high for 10-12 runs after) , it'll 99.9% pass everything else , unless temps will go skyhigh by torture testing your cpu in the thermal aspect. No reason to do it though IMO as these 2 will get it hot enough , more so than it'll ever be doing regular everyday use/gaming ...

First, raise the voltage...it'll never hold 3.9@1.275 unless its gods made chip. You can run cinabench or realbench for shits and giggles , but it'll crash for sure. If you decide to run a stress test regardless, go back to the bios and tweak your voltage to 1.375~ (1.385 is ok also) and check there. If few runs of cinabench go smooth, go for 1- 2 hours of realbench stress test , set the memory to as much as you have. Make sure that besides not crashing , your CPU doesn't throttle and continues to work at 100% usage (look intermittently , CPU usage is showing there). If it passed, run 4 or 8 hours of realbench (4 is usually enough, I go for 8 only after I settled on a final voltage and speed and I wanna be 100% sure its good). if it passes it without crash/throttle its stable. You can also run Intel burn test for 10-12 runs (takes 20-25 minutes on ryzen 5 1600) on very high after that if you want final confirmation . You really need no other utility than cinabench, realbench and IBT. Realbench is from my experience by far the best tool to detect instability , at least with ryzen. specially if confirmed later with IBT. Realbench crashed oc's within less than an hour that passed everything else...and I mean everything . After that, you either leave it at that (voltage wise) or, you can try to lower the voltage one notch and try the same, till its maximally stable at the lowest voltage possible. That's the basics without getting Into more advanced features. Some side notes 1. Always when performing tests run hwinfo64/hwmonitor to watch for temps , mostly CPU and vrm (motherboard ). 2.if 1.375-1.385v isn't stable @3,9 and you're with the stock cooler, I would stop there, and go to 3,85 ghz and check. I wouldn't push more voltage with the wraith. If you're with an aftermarket good air cooler or liquid cooler, you can go safely to 1.4 (you can go more, but I can't "advise" it, as you're starting to step Into forbidden realms , at least officially ) Regardless, I advise you to put the most aggressive CPU fan curve you're willing to tolerate in terms of noise....that's the healthiest thing to do when ocing . My noctua u12s is @100% all the time, but its rather quiet, and I don't care about the noise anyway. 3.I highly recommend you'll set you soc voltage to 1.1, possibly even 1.15 (its CPU nb/soc on most mobos) if its not already there , as it can screw up oc stability if too low, regardless of ram speed. Never go above 1.2, but I honestly think if you don't oc your ram , 1.1-1.15 is more than enough. 4. Close any 3rd party antivirus or MSI afterburner If you're running those while running realbench as it causes conflicts and crashes. That's the basic, have fun, be safe.

ryzen due to 12 threads and upgradability with am4 mobo. if you have the cash, and want the best of all worlds, go coffee lake i7. if its strictly for gaming and you dont care to have a shorter "gaming" life span due to 6 threads, and you only care about its gaming performance in the next 2 years or so, i5 is an ok option...would still personally go either ryzen or an i7. i think i5 is kind of a weird choice people make.

1600 obviously. btw, if you plan to aggressively OC both cpu and GPU/will upgrade to a newer more power hungry gpu+oc it in the near future, 450W psu is really borderline, and generally a bad idea. if you're sure you wont upgrade your gpu, 450W is fine. otherwise get a 550W minimum...if you can spend 50$ for a quality but not pocket killing psu, i recommend something like the SeaSonic S12II 620W as itll give you way more freedom, and is generally way better in terms of quality than the evga garbage b series.

Which Mobo, CPU, cooler ? Also, are those idle or under load readings ?

Sorry to ruin the party, but yes, this is classic CPU bottlenecking , and you're right , its gonna get worse with many modern titles. Try to play the new assasins creed... Its a common 4 core i5 disease nowadays when teamed with a good GPU. If you can wait and buy a new rig, its the best option in the long run. Def do not buy another haswell chip, save your money, enjoy your games now, and upgrade the rig when you can, otherwise its a really shitty band aid you're putting. This vid sums it up pretty much.

If you don't mind paying for a non-oc CPU which will probably be borderline irrelevant within two years for high-ultra performance in modern titles, be my guest.. Each one with his own considerations. Regarding i7, if you can pay for it, sure, but i5 is kind of a dumb choice in the long run considering the other options out there. I'll just put it here...

OP, just do me a favor, if you decide to go with coffee lake, go with i7 (no doubt its a beast) , not i5... Do not go with 6 threads, its stupid if you're looking at some form of future proofing. They'll be good for now, next year, 2 tops, but if you're smart, and you see where gaming is going, at least if youll decide to go with coffee lake and can afford it, take an i7 for the 12 threads, otherwise , go ryzen.