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Yeah I tried another port but it did the same

17 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

The "changes" you experienced were brought on by fear of breaking something.

Your brain took that hypothetical and made it real for you.

Maybe, I dont know how Gpus work. Ive had so many problems with hardware that I don't know any more 

If the port was damaged who knows maybe it would affect signal and processing.

13 minutes ago, Kuruton said:

Absolutely not, looking at your previous posts, you seem to be a bit of a hypochondriac. You have not damaged your system in any way. Any performance change you have witnessed is all in your head.

Because I experienced those things doesn't make a hypercondriac. I've been ludicrously unlucky with bad PC components and problems for many years

How can I know that display port damage wont affect the rest of the gpu it seems fairly reasonable to me.

I was putting a plug socket in and my hand slipped. The plug fell on the DP connection of my 3070.

My monitor that has fast response times is blurring and also my raytracing perforamnce has decreased by about 20%. I tested my rasterization performance on heaven and it runs the same.

What's going on. Does the DP port connect directly to processing units, is it broken?

I was just eating a two short burst high pitched dog whistle sounds came from around my PC area.

What could this be, the PC seems to be working fine?

Just now, KingCry said:

Think of it like this, if you damaged solder joints for the DVI connector you would have either no display out or graphical glitches/artifacts. Not higher input lag, and frame rate issues.

Are you sure?

What if it's trying to power through one or two connections instead of the other 5 solder joints, could that not cause a delay

16 minutes ago, Theguywhobea said:

Are you sure you didn't just pull your GPU slightly out of the slot? Why don't you try reseating it in the PCI-e connector before you try to solder the DVI port.

Tried re-seating, still the same input latency issues.

The Diagonal connector that solders to the PCB has two screw sockets that pulled on the solder.

10 minutes ago, KingCry said:

I don't think your cable is causing higher input lag and lower frame rate.....

This is coming from someone who had a DP cable broken and still usable and had zero changes in input lag and frame rate.

Its not the cable. I yanked on the cable when the screws were in place.

I can only assume that it pulled the DVI screws an maybe some soldering joints on the PCB

3 minutes ago, dDave64 said:

The DVI connector is a dumb interface that just carries data already processed by the computer. A DVI cable shouldn’t impact frame rate at all. If the cable didn’t have introduce input lag before then it shouldn’t now.

 

if you have an HDMI port then you could always get an HDMI to DVI cable. These interfaces are basically the same with a different connector (unless you are running higher than 1080p and need a dual link DVI)

 

Bluerigger makes a good cable for this.

The cable was never an issue.

I can only assume that some solder is loose, as I'm getting near V-sync levels of latency on my mouse. nothing else has changed.

4 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

You don't. The DVI cable is detachable it is not mean't to be soldered.

 

If you have to ask chances are you don't have the proper equipment to re-solder the port. Even if you did I doubt it would solve the issue. If everything was fine previously I would try replacing the cable first. I would also inspect the card thoroughly to see if it was really bent or damaged in any way. After that you could try re-seating the card and finally you could try a different card if you have a spare around.

I don't think you get what I mean.

I had the two screws in place when I tried to remove it with force, because I usually have them off. This pulled the board REALLY hard. obviously some of ths older is off because of really high input latency.

I can't actually see the solder on the back because of the plate, but I assume its off.

I yanked on my DVI connector and am now getting much higher inout lag and lower FPS.

I want to re-solder the DVI cable to the GPU, how can I do this?

I went to (idiotically) pull the DVI out of the back of my GPU, without realising I had screwed them in. It make a creaking noise and ever since the fans have just been revving up and down at low load since.

Surely pulling on them wouldn't have damaged the card since it would only affect the screws on the, back since I'mm not pulling on the DVI input itself?

3 minutes ago, mariushm said:

You can't do much damage with usb connectors

 

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Water can conduct electricity which mean there can be electricity going between pins in the usb connector.

If the water causes a short circuit between the power pins (5v and ground) the connector would stop working and in turn the usb controller (the chip that creates the usb ports may behave erratically).

You wouldn't damage the motherboard or power supply because the majority of motherboards have special components that behave like fuses ... for each pair of connectors for each group of 4 connectors, there's a fuse which temporarily breaks if a device plugged in the usb port consumes too much power.

When you turn off the PC and wait a few seconds or so, that component "repairs" itself and the connectors would work again... if the short is still there, the fuse would break again.

If less smart fuses are used, then the fuse would break permanently and the connector would never work anymore.

 

If the water causes short between the data wires, then the usb controller chip may think there's a usb device plugged in which is damaged or faulty in some way and will either turn off that connector until you reset the pc, or will cause problems to the operating system (use more cpu than normal, and you'd see popups in windows like "device detected" only to see a few seconds later that a device was disconnected, stuff like that)

 

You can try to fix the problem with your usb connectors... usually just using your hair dryer to blow a bit of warm air inside the connectors and dry them out would be enough.

It's running stuff with water inside that can cause corrosion and oxidation in the connectors. IF you dry the connectors then normally you'd be fine.

You can clean the connectors by squirting a bit of isopropyl alcohol or even regular sanitary alcohol into the connectors (while pc is turned off and uplugged) and waiting until the alcohols evaporate. If you're more fancy, you could try solutions like Deoxit to clean the contacts inside the connector.

 

Thanks for the detailed response.

How about the top of GPU, there is a possibility that some got there to and there area couple of open transistors and power cable?

If there is any issue would this present itself in synthetic benchmarks. Currently Passmark has no issue but I'm having issues in game, which could be coincidental

1 minute ago, NineEyeRon said:

Generally a short means not working.

 

If your system is stable then your probably fine.

System defiantly isn't stable getting stuttery game play and low fps that wasn't present earlier.

Earlier I was leaning over to place something in USB port when a small amount of water dropped onto the front USB 3.0 

I am now experiencing much lower frame rates and other issues but benchmarks seem to be fine. 

How could this damage other components, would it transfer something through to the motherboard and cause some sort of short through the power?

1 hour ago, SageOfSpice said:

By whom? We have no idea the scale or actual effect of these brownouts. Yes, theoretically if we're talking a few microseconds of power loss, some PSUs will be able to handle that. However, without actually measuring what is occurring during these brownouts, it's pretty hard to recommend anything but a UPS, or trading in your desktop for a laptop. Changing PSUs is only going to buy you a few miliseconds either way, and if this is a consistent issue in your building to the point where the lights flicker regularly, then it's only a matter of time until it then crosses that threshold, and you're no further along. A UPS would provide you protection for MINUTES. Tens of thousands of times longer than any PSU swap.

 

You don't need to get a particularly built up unit for this, as you aren't planning on running it exclusively off the battery. Just something that'll give you even 10 minutes would prevent this.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?13892-Can-the-PSU-protect-my-components-Or-do-I-need-a-UPS-or-a-voltage-regulator

I was reading this thread about how they aren't really necessary.

10 minutes ago, SageOfSpice said:

By whom? We have no idea the scale or actual effect of these brownouts. Yes, theoretically if we're talking a few microseconds of power loss, some PSUs will be able to handle that. However, without actually measuring what is occurring during these brownouts, it's pretty hard to recommend anything but a UPS, or trading in your desktop for a laptop. Changing PSUs is only going to buy you a few miliseconds either way, and if this is a consistent issue in your building to the point where the lights flicker regularly, then it's only a matter of time until it then crosses that threshold, and you're no further along. A UPS would provide you protection for MINUTES. Tens of thousands of times longer than any PSU swap.

 

You don't need to get a particularly built up unit for this, as you aren't planning on running it exclusively off the battery. Just something that'll give you even 10 minutes would prevent this.

A couple of long time posters told me that a decent psu will have just as much protection from undervolting, while never actually losing power which I don't. Light flickering suggest fluctuations in voltage that PSU's can handle apparently. There doesn't seem to be a Ms limit on when damage occurs.But I do agree Sith what you are saying about it giving me more time.

UPS's at 500w are really expensive, I just can afford them right now. 

If damage has happened wouldn't this show up in benchmarks, which it isn't.

16 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Get a UPS.

I have been told by experienced users on general that they aren't necessary, they also cost 100+

I was having major stuttering issues on my PC, I tried 1000's of hours to try and get it right, but it wouldn't work. I chalked it up to being that my at has power issues and had a few mini brownouts (although I have been told that my PSU Evga Gold G2 defends against short voltage drops).

I purchased an entire new system mobo ram and cpu skylake, and it was fine for two days.

Last night I had some of those power issues in my flat, lights flickering. I went to play and lo and behold the stuttering is back again.

UPS are simply too expensive where I live.

2 minutes ago, Snipergod87 said:

Not likely unless it is feeding power over the network cable that is not within 802.af or 802.at spec.

That being said it is possible

Possible in what way?

Is it at ALL possible for any type of damage to be caused by plugging a damaged router via Ethernet into a motherboard?

I was wondering if it is at all possible that the front panel pins that lead from a case into the mobo could EVER damage it, through short circuit or otherwise.

Is this possible if the Power LED, reset buttons are damaged etc.

3 hours ago, NeuesTestament said:

This is quite strange. First of all games shouldn't stutter due to being run on a primary vs. secondary SSD. Also running games from the secondary SSD should not lead to a noticable increase in input lag.

 

Can you post your full specs and the games you are running ?

Sure. I'm pretty sure my 860 evo (with windows) is faulty, as I have not stuttering on the other drive.

When you say noticable, do you mena there will be some, even a little.

i7 4790

16gb 2400MHZ

1070 Strix

Samsung evo 860, Kingston a400

Evga g2 650w

Is it possible at all to reduce the timing of this memory to c9? 

I have an MSI z97 and it lists a "Try it!" section?

The memory is G-skill 2400mhz 1.65v 2x8gb

7 minutes ago, diogo_the_man said:

It might be, is the drive new? And also what ssd is it? (nvme, m.2)? 

Samsung 860 Evo. The drive is about 6 months