shotsfired

Yes, I watched the keynote. I didn't say you'd be able to purchase those CPUs the moment after the keynote. Yes, I consider the ample information we received today to be a launch. with availability to follow. We're not having a discussion about these processors, however. You, just like most other forum members here, are just pointing out nit-picking points and bitching about verbiage. I'm here to discuss the tech. Not listen to someone be a bitch about the ANNOUNCEMENT of the Zen2 core.

All picture messaging uses data. Only some carriers permit the transmission of data with or without certain plans. This is not a technology restriction, this exists due to the carrier. Some carriers require you to have data on a smartphone, and some carriers allow free data for MMS only on non-smartphones.

They demo'd the 8 core part today. We know now that the Zen2 core is faster than Intel, and that's all that matters. We're looking at a mid 2019 launch, so at least you know now that Zen2 is going to be beast.

Cinebench R15 runs at AMD keynote: 9900k = 2040, Ryzen 3rd Gen = 2057

AMD just announced 3rd Gen Ryzen processors. I fucking told you so. ?

Radeon VII, February 7th, $699.

Radeon VII has been announced. AMD benchmarks state that it MATCHES or BEATS a 2080.

No one is set up for disappointment. And that's funny, because they're the only ones to have said so. I'll see this thread after the keynote on Wednesday.

Putting it as an unlisted item in their SKU database is not a violation of NDA. Retailers have been doing it for decades. How do you think we always know before a product launches?

Once again, I'm gonna stay hopeful. Not holding my breath, I have a brand new x299 build that I haven't even finished yet. But the possibilities for AMD are endless. Also, you think retailers post SKUs in their databases, based off internet rumors? These SKUs are found in a reverse dump of their catalogs, they don't base their SKUs off of rumor.

Good suggestions.

Based ONLY on the comment that you made about powering the system down, I would start with the motherboard. Update the bios to the newest revision, see if that helps the issues. Disable power saving features in the bios too, such as CPU power management, let the OS manage all of that. Set all settings in the bios to factory settings, and even turn off overclocking. Asus does this by default. If you've done all that, you should swap the motherboard. Buy a low end board from AMAZON, the cheapest one you can find, and run that for a while. If the issues persist, start looking at the PSU. The long-press shut down command is hosted form the motherboard, and the fact that it's not listening... that's odd. I would start with the motherboard.

I don't remember any of those rumors. AMD themselves has stated they're moving to 7nm, so that's not rumor. As well as the SKUs that have released, those have been backended by 3 (maybe even more) retailers, so those are true too. The tech specs, who knows, but even an inefficient, non-perfect chip, being reduced 50% from a 14nm to a 7nm process is enough to give them a chance to show incredible results. You shouldn't be so closed-minded. I don't think heat is going to be a problem. The issue Ryzen had with overclocking was never heat, it was always voltage restrictions. Going to 7nm manufacturing will definitely improve voltage needs, and therefore, overclocking can gain an edge too. I'm hopeful. IPC gains were speculation from a contact inside of AMD, but that's somewhat of a rumor in itself. According to the spreadsheet I made (linked in the post), IF the Zen2 chip gets a 13% increase across the board, you can look forward to CB R15 scores of 2500, on the 8 core chips. That's 400 more than the 9900k on autoclocks. Promising. Even that would be a generous improvement over Zen+, but I think it can go farther. Considering the 7nm process change, this thinner die should be able to sustain much better clocks at a lower voltage. Voltage was always the issue with Zen 1.

As I've said, I'm currently Team Blue. But man, I will be shook AF if AMD can deliver something close to these tidbits.

As you know, CES 2019 is almost here, and there's speculation that AMD will be discussing their Zen2 desktop chips. It wasn't expected originally until Q3 '19, but some say it'll be talked about at CES this year. Let's see if that's true! Since they're releasing their (what I hope Is Zen2, but is probably Zen+) 3xxx series laptop processors, maybe they'll wait til Q3 to let the Zen2 desktops out... However, after some research, I found a slightly ambiguous tweet from @BitsAndChipsEng here: https://hothardware.com/news/amd-zen-2-13-percent-ipc-lift-over-zen He tweets that his contact says the newly developed 7nm processor from AMD has an average IPC increase of 13%, over Zen+. Given that AMD and Intel are still using a 14nm process in their newest chips, having a 7nm processor show 13% improvement of IPC isn't totally out of the question. (Please remember, IPC means instructions per CLOCK, which indicates that for every 100Mhz, it can crank X amount of instructions) In celebration of AMD totally wrecking Intel's life (possibly), here is a spreadsheet I put together regarding the possible increase that AMD could be pushing through this new chip of theirs. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RYvgYVdfrOdZK4JkpZswVa6XjZX0G7QAwNSrQ7nJlh0/edit?usp=sharing (feel free to recommend updates/changes) This coming from someone who just bought a i7-9800X, I am not sour at all. Just hopeful that AMD can actually do this. I'll gladly change from Team Blue to Team Red (on my CPU, of course) if AMD can actually deliver these rumors. Let's discuss! No fanboyism please, all posts containing harsh fanboyism will be reported and removed.