Ensho
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Static voltage? I'm not the most qualified to speak on it, but no..not really so long as you keep your temps cool and stay within reason on your vcore. Over the very, very long haul...maybe so. I just personally like the idea of taking the voltage out of the processor and only running it full speed when it really needs it. With higher overclocks and higher load voltages..yes...that is a good thing. I've heard Asrock does similar to what Asus does with adaptive voltage...I've just never been able to confirm it. So, they do as well huh? Cool.
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Depending on the motherboard you have, if you enter the voltage manually you will not be able to use any of the power saving features. MSI and Gigabyte are like that, Asus is more user friendly in that regard. For Gigabyte and MSI you have to leave the voltage on Auto or Normal and use Dynamic VID offset to customize your applied voltage and take advantage of Intel's power saving features. I have no idea why Gigabyte and MSI's bios teams can't figure out a better way to do it like Asus, but it is what it is.
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I now see why running benchmarks on a fresh OS install with as little other stuff installed as possible is recommended. I guess once MS gets all their spyware up and running it drains cpu resources. Stock settings with 1.165v with normal priority after fresh install of W10 = 40 more points than usual...1004cb. I should have run it real time as well to see what the result was, but it was getting late and it slipped my mind.
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You sure that is the actual voltage and not the VID? No way with 1.5v your load temp is 77c. That could certainly be possible with 1.39v-1.4v. If the VID is 1.5v, the actual voltage may be 1.4v. I don't know how the Asus software stresses the cpu in their AI Suite though.
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USB 3.0. You explained why.
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Never update your bios without resetting your bios to system defaults as well. Bios updates are simple if you do them right. The best way is to put the bios file on a usb, restart the computer, go into your bios, load system defaults, reboot, go into uefi bios flash utility upon reboot and direct it to your usb drive. As others have mentioned, you are going to have to send the board to MSI.
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Corsair Hydro H100i compatible with AMD Ryzen 1700X?
Ensho replied to Lord_Zeuz's topic in Custom Loop and Exotic Cooling
Yeah, it has mounting holes in the motherboard for both AM3 and AM4 backplates so the the H100i V2 with the included AM3 backplate should be fine. It's a more expensive board, but it is better...and they have gotten their bios issues behind them now for the most part with their latest bios which if you decide to get it you definitely need to install first before you do anything. -
Corsair Hydro H100i compatible with AMD Ryzen 1700X?
Ensho replied to Lord_Zeuz's topic in Custom Loop and Exotic Cooling
The Asus Crosshair is the only board with both AM3 and AM4 mounts. -
Yes. I added that. I have a tendency to post, then realize I probably need to elaborate my point to finish my thought to be sure I am not misunderstood
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Ryzen has the ipc of Broadwell-e at best...not Skylake and Kabylake. SL and KL are around 7% IPC faster...so even clock for clock Ryzen will lose out in games. Coupled with the limitations of their Infinity Fabric...Ryzen will never match i7s in gaming. The difference is simply a matter of more cores which will content creation type applications. This is why given Intel does not price them too high...Skylake-E will restructure the cpu market once again later this summer. No amount of patches and tweaks will give Ryzen the performance crown. All they can do is give really good price/performance which is what AMD has had to reside themselves too. Right now though AMD is giving Intel a butt whooping in the 8 core productivity market given their most expensive 8 core is $500 less than Intels.
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I suppose so. Like I mentioned, I forgot where I read it...but it was mentioned boards should be coming in stock soon. The main reason I replied was just to link to the Asus Crosshair thread because if you ordered the Crosshair I was just making sure you were aware they have the issue with their bricked boards fixed and to update the bios to the one mentioned in that thread.
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The boards are on a boat atm. The first run was a limited supply flown in by air. Vendors should be getting stock in soon. I forgot where I read this, but I think it was in part due to the Chinese New Year. Asus has their bios situation fixed now, btw. http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread
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Now that the hype is gone what CPU is best
Ensho replied to Noah Vega's topic in CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory
I would say the 1700 or the 1700X by leaps and bounds. They are really the best overall CPUs to buy period atm (except for gaming primarily then the 7700K is best). Even Intel's 6900K and up look silly when you consider price. According to Kyle from [H], the 1700X and 1800X are only binned for voltage...not speed. So keep that in mind as well. The guys at Crit TV got their 1700X to 4ghz with 1.33v -
Which liquid cooler should I use?
Ensho replied to Waleed Abuhana's topic in Custom Loop and Exotic Cooling
Just for reference....while I do have 7700k that runs well with low voltage (1.165v)...as well as lowering my VCCPLL OC to 1.15v vs the default 1.25v which helps with temps...my H100i V2 keeps my 7700K's game load temps in the mid 40s. Granted that is with stock clock of 4.5ghz of course. You could likely expect no worse with a 7600K with only 4 cores. If you want the 280 rad then go for it, but don't feel as though you have to.
