Kalm_Traveler

hi guys, I was finally able to get my 10980xe yesterday and swapped out the old 7960x, but noticed that the temp delta between cores is much worse with the new chip. On the delidded + LM 7960x (stock IHS, not lapped), max core-to-core delta was 10c, but with the same setup on this 10980xe the delta is 16c. It will do 5ghz all core just fine but temps are ridiculous (6 cores thermal throttling at 110c) so I had to dial it back to 4.9ghz all core, but even with this the hottest few cores are hitting 90c, while the coolest cores top out at 74c. I didn't think to check the IHS for flatness before installing but given the pretty bad delta my first thought was bad surface mating between the IHS and cpu block cold plate. Optimus (I'm using an Optimus Signature V2 block) recommends not lapping the IHS unless you order a special super-flat cold plate, but I'm not sure if there is a better route to address this. What do you guys think?

If I can justify another HEDT something like this sounds fun, but I'm semi broke from the current builds so 3970x will have to wait. If you move forward with this take lots of pics!

Don't tell all these crazy YouTube reviewers who have Windows installed on SSD and just swap them around even between completely different platforms and architectures all day without reinstalling! I jest, but it isn't necessary these days like it was in decades past. Windows 7 and up have been pretty good about finding drivers for new hardware after a transplant - and this is even less likely an issue if you're just swapping between different sizes of the same chipset board within the same manufacturer since you might not even have any actual different components in the first place.

That sounds the same as a single drive. I'm wanting to do this to max out read speed, not to create data redundancy.

My x299 rig, so 44 / 48 pci-e lanes direct to cpu. Yes I know you can raid nvme, I'm asking if you can take a single existing drive and add a second drive to create a raid without losing the data on the original nvme ssd. As mentioned, Intel IRST allows you to convert like this with sata drives but I can't find any confirmation of such functionality with nvme drives on any motherboard.

I googled a bit but didn't find anything about nvme ssds - I know with Intel IRST you can take an existing single disk and convert it to a RAID array by adding 1+ additional identical drives but the Intel article explaining it seems to be talking about IRST controlling SATA ports. Can this same thing be done with NVME m.2 ssds? Just wondering as I have enough free PCI-E lanes to add another drive and could benefit either from RAID 0 or RAID 1 if I can track down an unused 2tb 960 Pro somewhere for not an outrageous price.

very happy with it - I haven't had an instance to use the VPN though (been in town/home since I got it set up). Soon as I can use it externally I'll report back what CPU utilization is. With just base pfSense doing the usual router/firewall/dhcp and Suricata it sits around 2% CPU utilization.

Everything you're looking at is stock. 4.9ghz all core 10980xe still beats the 3950x at everything. Also Pci-e lanes, AVX512, etc. Upgraded from 7960x that topped out at 4.7ghz all core with ambient air temp water cooling. If I were starting from scratch I would probably go with the Threadripper 3970x but it would still be a bit of a hit in gaming which I do somewhat.

Oh no benefit for me. Already been on x299 for several years and I'd spend money to lose features and performance going to a 3950x.

eh?

my only experience with Schiit so far is their Fulla 2 which I've tested with the Sennheiser massdrop HD6xx and AKG K7xx. They both sounded good to me, but I'm not a pro audio engineer or anything. The only setup I've owned which sounded audibly better was an Oppo HA-1 DAC/amp driving their PM-1 cans with a balanced cable, and even then the difference wasn't huge - obvious, but not huge. I ordered a Schiit Hel a month ago but it was backordered initially until Jan 28 but still hasn't shipped and now their website is saying ETA end of February.

That is definitely interesting to hear - my own experience with Creative has been that their cards and software have been the only reliable stable way to get DDL or DTS:C piped out of a computer. Literally never had a single issue with any of their PCI-E cards or accompanying software. That all being said, I'm not sure that your APO software will do what you think because in order for the outgoing optical signal to be DDL or DTS:C, the software controlling the hardware needs to be able to encode an already-present surround signal. In other words, you need 2 things in place; 1 - the sound device needs to be seen and configured as 5.1 ch in Windows, and 2 - whatever software is controlling the sound hardware (specifically the optical port) needs to be able to encode the aforementioned 5.1 data into Dolby Digital Live or DTS Connect. As far as I've seen, if the sound device itself can't be seen as a multi-channel device in Windows, and or the software/drivers that run it lack provisioning for DDL/DTSC there wouldn't be any way for additional 3rd party software to make the magic happen.

The nature of the signal doesn't really have any bearing on price of the device in question - especially if you're wanting something capable of Dolby Digital Live or DTS Connect encoding for 5.1 over Toslink. Honestly, I think the easiest solution would be one of Creative's external USB sound cards as long as it has optical output and DDL or DTS:C support.

What exactly are you wanting to accomplish with it? Might help us find something that does what you're wanting.

Finally got the custom power cables installed, Bykski water block on the Kingpin 2080 Ti installed, and managed to get the PSU shroud top cover in without bending it. This is pretty much done, though if Optimus PC follows through with an alleged plan to produce a water block for this Kingpin card I'll probably swap to that since the cooling quality of this Bykski block is a bit dubious. Everything is as good or better temp than my janky setup before with the EK VGA Supremacy gpu block, copper memory heatsinks and stock VRM cooling, but for some reason Nvidia OC Scanner clocked it only to 2085mhz, down from 2150mhz on the janky setup. Overall I am absolutely loving this machine. The only thing I might try to tweak in the future is try to remove the doofy circle in the loop at the front to connect both radiators.

Sounds about right - I just remember when I first saw a DX2 in a friends machine I was jealous of both the double speed of my 33 MHz and his cool blue-ish processor (didn't realize at the time that it was just a heatsink stuck to the CPU)

Makes more sense, thank you. I guess the part that I was focused on is that last sentence of the description "Modems can be used with almost any means of transmitting analog signals from light-emitting diodes to radio." Since the cable signal is still digital (as is broadcast TV) that meant to me that it isn't being modulated-demodulated but I'm far from an expert in radio technology.

you're not joking! Nice aspect of your patience though is it looks like you would have experienced absolutely monstrous leaps in CPU horsepower with those first few upgrades!

what made you switch from team red to team blue for the Xeon? (and you're probably right about that 4c/8t bombshell)

Trust me you're not the only one who thinks that I'd claim mid-life crisis but it's just becoming 'life'. Actually wanted to pick up a working 24" Sony GDM-FW900 CRT for my retro PC but I'm planning on moving overseas before end of year and need to keep giant heavy possessions to a minimum due to living space limitations in the new country.

I think you missed what I was asking... a 'modem' is by definition a device which modulates and demodulates. The thing you connect to your cable company to get internet access does not modulate or demodulate anything. I'm not sure what your objective with the snarky reply was, but it literally didn't address the question and just came across as pointless internet rudeness. Anyway, hope whatever brought you to choose that in life improves, friend.

Enjoying a "lack-of-funds"-mandated frugal life, obviously Honestly, I just wanted to be able to play Witcher 3 on my old 3440 x 1440 100Hz Gsync screen with all the settings maxed out without fps dipping much below 100. Hello CPU bottlenecks.

Just a minor point of OCD for me - modems are analog devices that MOdulate and DEModulate digital data into an analog signal and back out of it, and please correct me if I'm mistaken here but as far as I understand how cable internet signals work they are digital throughout the entire process. Haven't had DSL since 2003 but I'm unclear on if those are modulated-demodulated signals either. I bring that up for 2 reasons, first to clarify that the main reason folks started calling cable "interface devices" (what are they actually since they are not by definition modems?), and secondly how to we fix this marketing-based misnomer? /rant ----- To the OP though - in some ways any house wired with fiber is almost that easy. I moved into a new-to-me house 6 years ago that already had a fiber run and fiber interface box installed, so all I had to do for service was call up the service provider and have them reprovision the interface box for me.

Glad I'm not the only one here who remembers computing in 1993 and a 486 no less, though I'm jealous of your 66MHz - I think those all came with a heatsink? I always wondered what end result of not having a math co-processor would have been but didn't understand computers enough back when that was a thing one might actually run into. You reminded me that I totally forgot to put on there that I had a no-name brand 8088 machine given to me after the 486 (it was at my dad's house) but long before 2000 when I earned my own money to build my first 'real' computer. I used the 8088 to play some very very old DOS games and its upgraded 4800 baud modem to check out local BBSes. On the 486, dad got me a Sound Blaster 16 for Christmas which came bundled with a new-fangled Compact Disc ROM drive. I didn't realize that until making the OP - seems like I do a major upgrade every 2 years or so. Graphics cards I'm not 100% sure on though - I remember buying the very first DDR Geforce card for my 2000 rig, a Guillemot/Hercules 3d Prophet DDR-DVI but after that I'm not sure what I had in the Pentium 4 era, then bought a Geforce GTX 285 2gb it looks like in 2010 per my email history, in there somewhere was a 7600GS, and I definitely got a GTX 980 in 2015, then 1080 in I think 2017 but then it turned into a 1080 Ti, then two of them, then two Titan V's (I was trying to hack them into NVLink working), back to two Titan Xp's, then 2018 Christmas-ish to two Titan RTX's. Apparently I love being broke.

Always two rather than only one because a single DIMM can only run in single channel mode, while 2 or 4 will run in dual channel (or potentially quad channel if you have an HEDT platform) which offers exponentially more memory bandwidth.