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Same opinion here! They used to be decent, but lately....not that much. Gigabyte on the other hand seems to be doing good stuff.

Get the B450 Pro, better for that price.

If you can afford, Taichi for sure, one of the best AM4 out there..

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Shame their VRMs on the Z390 are not the best. If you want a good bios, for overclock and very decent VRMs the Extreme 4 and or Taichi... depends on the budget you have.

Did you try the latest bios update?

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Gaming or non gaming its all marketing. See features and feedback and if it's good... just buy it

Thats right, the Gigabyte boards are one of the best for the Z390 chipset, but the Asrock line up is also pretty good and have the advantage of having amazing overclocking features and very good bios.

If you do indeed want to overclock, then the Z390 Phantom. It's actually pretty good little board, very solid even more considering you will use the new gen intel 9K CPU that is pretty power hungry and it might even throtle if the VRMs reach a certain laod or temperature. Play it safe...

A good board would be the Z370 Extreme, but since you want smaller factor the Z370 Pro4 is also a good option.

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You would probably want to grab the 1700 Ryzen 7 promo while it last... PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9mPQfH Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9mPQfH/by_merchant/ CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon) Total: $398.87 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-09 02:24 EST-0500

Yeap, PC DIGA is good

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Another good alternative is the Z390 Taichi, comes with WIFI , pretty powerful VRMs and very good bios. If you overclock is one of the best choices, you can argue there are higher VRMs on some others but unless you extreme overclock, the Taichi is more than enough for pretty high overclocks. What I also like about them is their bios, plenty of options and pretty easy to tweak.

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Get a 2070 for 499$, better SSD / M.2 and save the rest for the next gen CPUs on 7nm

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Not much gaming performance difference but you gain 2 cores for future proof. Don't you think games will start taking advantage of more cores in the next few years?

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