Twirlz
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Coolermaster Master Masterwatt 550W or be quiet 500 Watt Pure Power 10? Bequiet costs around £8 more, which I'm not sure is worth it for me usecase. Tried a Corsair 550W grey label but fan was ticking and loud. Also due to recent experiances with other Corsair products I have no desire to give them anymore money. Will be used in a secondary diagnostics PC which I use to test other components like GPUs (stress tests included) or software. Possibly powered on a few times a week which may include stress tests. Sturdy cables is a bonus. Was attracted by the Coolermasters 5 year warranty but as far as I understand the Bequiet is better quality. Is the CM much worse? Thanks and also open to other suggestions (budget is around £50).
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HWmonitor or Ryzen master.
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Is your stutter similar to this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/8cdzsb/are_your_games_stuttering_lately/ (includes video example) When you stutter, does your frametime spike, GPU usage drop, clock speeds drop etc? Have you tried disabling all power saving modes in BIOs? Pass stress tests? Reinstalling and testing with as little 3rd part programs as possible? Does disabling gsync have an effect? What components did you have before upgrading?
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Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Twirlz replied to SupremeGOAT's topic in CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory
The Prime board is pretty solid in it's price range and would be the one I'd choose. All boards have their quirks, but Asus has done a decent job with the BIOs and hardware. Compared to the MSI board you linked it is easily better. Stronger VRMs, better audio, better LAN and so on. -
When the stutter occurs, it could be that it causes a temporary fall in GPU usage resulting in a drop in power %. It could just be a side effect of the stuttering. If your PC passes stress tests I doubt the PSU is the issue. Buzzing, whilst annoying, can be a normal sound for a PSU. What games do you stutter in? Is it worse in some than others? Does the stutter in games look similar to this?
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My 2700X typically boosts to 4GHz on all cores with a B350 Strix. Highest I saw it was 4.050GHz with a CM 212 EVO with pretty warm ambient temperatures (about 27C). Can imagine it going a little higher if it had a better cooler and/or cooler ambient.
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What GPU, resolution and refresh rate? If you're just going to aim for 1080p 60FPS with a GTX 1060 then the difference between these CPUs will be unnoticeable. Intel is capable of pushing out more frames but you need a 1080Ti and a 144Hz monitor to really notice and even then, the 2700X isn't usually that far behind in many games. If you did want to squeeze out as many frames as possible and have a high end GPU with a 1080p/144Hz monitor (1440p to a lesser extent) then the 8700K is undeniably better. Outside of gaming it depends on the software you use and how you use them. For example, creating a simple map or mobile game with Unreal would be much less demanding than using it to create the next Unreal Tournament. I would imagine both CPUs are perfectly capable of this task and it would be difficult to tell the difference between these CPUs, but I don't know much about the engines development tools to pass judgment. I would research the tools you use to see how they utilize hardware. Ultimately I think both would be absolutely fine, I don't feel like there is a wrong choice.
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Tried reinstalling audio drivers? Are they downloaded from the motherboards website or automatically provided by Microsoft? Try an older version. Or temporarily disable onboard audio in the BIOs to see if the stutters resolve.
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No problem My guess is that there are so many different causes of stutter it is hard to pin down. Personally the only thing that helped me was clearing the standby after loading a game (I do it manually rather than a task since I don't play games too often). It seems the standby issue only effects a small amount of users, but fingers crossed it helps solve your stuttering!
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Have you tried clearing the standby list in RAMMap? (click 'Empty' then 'Empty Standby List') Does the stuttering improve? From what I can tell in the video, the frametime spikes look similar to those in the Reddit thread I linked previously. If you clear your standby list after you join a game and the stuttering improves you could be suffering from this issue. Worth giving a try. If it was your problem there is sadly no fix yet (disabling superfetch doesn't work) but you could keep clearing everytime you have issues and hopefully it will alleviate it.
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You don't necessarily need BF1 to test for this issue. Just need to keep an eye on standby memory when you stutter in any game. Though given your other symptoms I think this problem might be unlikely. When I quickly read your post before I assumed you were talking about gaming but I misread. I haven't heard many people discuss this issue regarding other applications.
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That diagram is the ingame one for Battlefield 1. In Battlefield you can type perfoverlay.drawgraph true in the console to show it.
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Resource Monitor is monitoring the memory (under 'Physical Memory' tab). The green graph with black background is MSI afterburner which keeps track of a range of stats (e.g FPS, frametime etc). On a side note, I would also consider downloading 'Latencymon' and monitor your system so you can see if a driver spikes in latency when you start stuttering.
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I misread OP unfortunately. I just wrongly assumed he was gaming.
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Does your stutter look like this? Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/8cdzsb/are_your_games_stuttering_lately/ You mentioned that resetting your PC stops the stutter temporarily and that sometimes it takes a while before the stutters appear. This sounds typical of the standby issue which I often see posts about. You can check by opening resource manager and seeing if their is any free memory left when you stutter. If not, try clearing the standby list with a tool called RAMMap. Edit: Sorry, I misread. I thought the problem was gaming related. Hope you solve your issue!
