My whole point in asking you the question was to point out that while you are quick to condemn the US's actions in Iraq as a waste of money and a failure to protect the US you also have to ask what the consequences of that action not having been taken would be. Though we could never know how Saddam's regime would have panned out in the future we can look to the past to see where it came from and what it has done so far. We can be quick to condemn the actions of others for the problems that have arisen from those choices but we very easily overlook what the impossible to know but very possible to speculate consequences of not having taken those actions could have been. The US is not blameless and has gone to war for both good and bad reasons but there is currently Good in the midst of the Bad. Don't be blind to the Good as our current world Media would have you believe. Finally, I wish you no ill will or disrespect I was attempting to engage in discussion but I really felt pissed on and degraded for seeking to engage in discussion that questions what people believe in a respectful way. Please treat all people with respect even if you disagree.
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What I was not able to post was this:
The USA has killed tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of civilians in the region as well. Try a better argument. Even further, Saddam used tools that he was provided with from the USA. You guys had a hand in his actions as well. ...and you did not care what he did with those weapons. When he threatened the US dollar is when the USA started to take interest in his removal.
The media does not dare say the things I think. My information does not come from the "global media". Why are you assuming that?
Are you really bother by me calling you dumb? I apologize. I meant to imply that line of thinking was dumb. I was not trying to be degrading towards you, just your idea.
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Millions if you include the long term effects of leaving the education industry and agriculture industries unprotected while defending the oil ministry
As well as destroying water treatment facilities and many other forms of infrastructure.
Saddam was "our man" until he decided to become more self dependent
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Thank you for the apology and thank you for expressing your thoughts. War is a terrible thing because of the death and horror it causes to people, the second Iraq war was and is no different. The estimates I've seen for the number of deaths under Saddam's regime are in the 250k to 500k range, a very large number. I do not disregard the terrible number of people that have been killed since the war started. I will likely never know first hand what they have gone through but my hope for Iraq is that a democratic government will prevail for the best interests of the people.
I love my country I fear for it and I pray for it, that wisdom will prevail in the minds and hearts of those who are in decision making positions. Yes the US has done countless things in the last 50 years that it should not have, it has also done countless things that are right that very few will ever remember, record or care about.
I do not support all of my country's decisions but please do not say "you guys" implying all of America had a hand in his actions because 99% of "us" have not.
I'm a blue collar American that has been very privileged to live in the US. I have the desire on daily basis to serve my friends and neighbors with respect, compassion, love and peace that has been afforded to me by Christ foremost and those who lived before me second. I can effect the world within my sphere of influence to the best of my ability and I pray that it's repercussions will improve the lives of others.
I'm not a historian or a scholar, I am a Christian first and try to be an optimist second and so I try to effect change for the better whenever I can.
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