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I figured the software was having an issue detecting that half of the threads were "virtual" because it was not developed for AMD's SMT feature. Does Intel have this same issue with HT? I know the storing of the incidental four core CPU should change if the CPU were to change, I 100% agree with you on that.

So devs are to build games for the future hardware that is not available to them? Anyways, give Ryzen some time to mature as there might be some nice surprises.

I got mine up to a whopping 65Hz, 70Hz messed it up... then I went back to 60Hz. I don't trust changing parameters when I don't have knowledge of the hardware capabilities. I did mine through AMD's Catalyst/Crimson software.

Stubborn =/= awful... mostly. Man was he stubborn, but I like to think the forums were more interesting with him around. His ego would not let him be proven wrong. He was not a bad guy, not with any interaction I had with him. The first time I argued with him, I kept calling him "Mr. Masters of Computer Science"... he was formally trained as an engineer of sorts.

Honestly, I would do the 7700 + B250 board over the 7600K + Z270 board. Threads are nice to have when you need them.

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Any "shitty" thing can be against the rules, if the rules change to encompass said "shitty" thing.

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This is a lot of PC for general use: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($399.00 @ Shopping Express) CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($45.00 @ PCCaseGear) Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($116.00 @ IJK) Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($147.00 @ IJK) Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($185.00 @ Shopping Express) Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB GTR Video Card ($349.00 @ PCCaseGear) <<binned version for best possible chip Case: Antec ISK 600M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($107.00 @ Umart) Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.00 @ Shopping Express) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($129.00 @ IJK) Case Fan: NZXT RF-FN142-RB 50.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.00 @ PLE Computers) <<Front intake Case Fan: Deepcool XFAN 120 44.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.99 @ Mwave Australia) <<Rear exhaust Monitor: LG 29UM58-P 29.0" 2560x1080 75Hz Monitor ($299.00 @ Mwave Australia) Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($168.00 @ Shopping Express) Mouse: Logitech G302 Daedalus Prime Moba Wired Optical Mouse ($44.50 @ Shopping Express) Total: $2094.49 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-13 14:25 AEDT+1100

Did you get a good deal on the server? Under 400 GBP?

Everyone gets a Fiat! http://www.fiatusa.com/500e.html I like these little things, IDK why. They are so tiny, but not Smart Car tiny.

That motherboard might not work with that CPU. The H110 chipset needs a BIOS updated to Kabylake specifications. If it is not updated, you just bought a paperweight. You need a working CPU to update the BIOS, and an updated BIOS to run the CPU. The motherboard will not support the features of the 7600K, or the 3000MHz RAM. You are wasting money on that CPU. A 7500 will do fine. You just downgraded a good amount on the CPU side, while managing to spend more. The BeQuiet PureRock is a much better cooler, worth the $10. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cwPzK8/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk009 ..or this one for the same price: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/hyQRsY/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-351-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk008 This one is under $20: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JHV48d/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx300 Also, a 120mm fan for a front intake will be beneficial.

Solid side panel FTW!

Not much prettier, but a better internal layout: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/HDqbt6/bitfenix-case-bfxnov100wwxkkrp

That case dude...

13% tax. $1000 = $1130

That RAM will run at 2133MHz. Why such a stupid name?

Money.

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A little cheaper if you don't mind a slightly less CPU performance: $620 PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($175.69 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg) Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO D5 OC Video Card ($162.99 @ Newegg) Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($23.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($52.89 @ Newegg) Total: $588.52 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-12 16:36 EDT-0400

I get scared with that argument. I think there is enough to provide energy for decades upon decades to come. I would rather we try to move away from it anyways.

"Cleaner", not "clean"; Moving in the right direction, not ignoring the evidence. Read below,, or above... I have no problem with a responsible nuclear program producing the needed energy. Nuclear is a very compelling option, I have no problem with it... most people would not. Well said to the rest.

Note the Seasonic M12ii 520W power supply for $50. Geeez, that is a good deal. It was $64 last year at the best of times and that was a great deal.

The case is very basic, but it will hold all your parts and comes with a fan. If you put in another $40, you can get a really nice case: NZXT S340, or a Phanteks P400, or a Phanteks Enthoo Pro M, maybe a Fractal Design (depending on the prices). ...or take that same $40 and get a 2x8GB kit of RAM.... 2400MHz for this motherboard.

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