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Well as X10, the X3 or X5 were created by a famous Designstudio, FW isnt on par with the big three yet but more than sufficient to compete with the smaller/sidebusiness brands, pricepoint is very good, overall it is how your entry into the market should be done.

You dont get anything at that pricepoint that tracks decent at 1600 or above.

RAT 7 is 150g and G502 120g, which is too much for fast paced games and playing 20+ hours per week, i feel crippled by it in general. Edit: Have you tried a lighter mouse and lower sensitivity? You could for example try it out with the R.A.T. T.E.

As in all other forums, this list is a constant wip. Sensor´s: Optical LED A4tech Bloody Blazing A6 A3050 Bloody Blazing A9 A3050 Bloody R3a A3050 Bloody R7a A3050 Bloody R8a A3050 Bloody V2 3305DK Bloody V3 3305DK Bloody V5 / V5M 3305DK Bloody V7 / V7M 3305DK Bloody V8 / V8M 3305DK Bloody Warrior RT5 A3050 Bloody Winner T5 A3050 Bloody Winner T6 A3050 Bloody Winner T7 A3050 X-710BF/K/H A3060 X-718BK A3080 X-718BK "Rev. 2" 3305DK X-748K A3080 X-748K "Rev.2" 3305DK X-755K A3060 X-760H A3060 Asus Gladius S3988 Sica PMW3310 Strix Claw PMW3310H Azio EXO1 PMW3320DB Commatech M1 A3090 Coolermaster Alcor A3090 Octane A3050 Recon A3090 Spawn A3090 Xornet A3050 Corsair/Raptor Gaming M3 DKT A3060 M30 A3090 M40 A3090 M45 PMW3310H Sabre Optical S3988 Cougar 200m A3050 230m PAW3307 250m A3050 300m A3090 400m A3090 450m PMW3310 500m A3090 550m S3988 Everglide G-1000 A3080 EVGA TORQ X3 Optical A3090 TORQ X5 Optical S3988 Fuhlen CW100 OMG PMW3320DB Func MS-2 A3090 Gamdias Apollo A3050 Erebos Extension Optical A3050 Hades Extension A3050 GEIL Epicgear Anura A3060 Epicgear Blade A3050 Epicgear Cyclops A3090 Epicgear Cyclops X PMW3310 Epicgear Meduza A3060 Epicgear Morpha S3988 Epicgear Zora A3050 Genius Maurus A3090 Maurus X A3090 Gigabyte Raptor A3090 Hama URage Reaper 3090 A3090 I-Rocks IR-7572 A3090 IR-7810R A3050 M05/IM3 A3090 M06 A3090 M09 A3050 Symphony IRMO5-WP A3090 James Donkey 112S A3050 KTEC KTM-9500+ A3080 Logitech G1 S2020 G100 A3055 G100s AM010 N1301T/N1303T G300/G300s A3055 G302 AM010 G400 A3080E/S3095 G400s S3095 G402 AM010 G502 PMW3366DM-VWOU G602 AM010 Mx300 A2020 Mx310 S2020 Mx500 A2020 Mx510 S2020 Mx518 A3080 MX518 2nd Gen. A3080E NEWMEN GX1000 Pro PMW3310 GX1-F 3305DK GX1-Pro A3090 GX1-R A3050 GX2 3305DK GX2-Pro A3090 GX3-Pro A3090 NZXT Avatar A3080 MadCatz R.A.T. 3 A3090 R.A.T. X PMW3310 Microsoft Intellimouse Optical 1.1 MLT04 Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 MLT04 Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1 MLT04 Blue MLT04 Mionix Avior 7000 PMW3310H NAOS 3200 A3060 Naos 7000 PMW3310H Ozone Radon Opto A3090 Xenon A3050 Perixx MX-1800B A3090 Puretrak Valor A3090 QPAD OM-75 A3060 8k Optical PMW3310 Rapoo V20 A3050 V200 A3050 V300 A3090 Razer Abyssus S3888 Abyssus 2014 S3888 Boomslang 2007 CE S3668 Deathaddder 3G S3668 Deathadder 3.5G S3888 Deathadder 4G S3988 Deathadder Chroma S3989 Diamondback A3070/A3080 Diamondback Plasma S3088 Diamondback 3G S3668 Krait S3088 Krait 4G S3988 Salmosa (AE) S3668 Roccat Kone Pure Optical A3090 Kone Pure Optical Military PMW3310H Kone XTD Optical S3988 Kova A3080 Kova [+] 3305DK-H Lua A3050 Pyra 3305DK-H Savu A3090 Speedlink Ledos A3050 Prime Z-DW 3305DK-H Sharkoon Fireglider Optical 3305DK M20 3305DK Steelseries Ikari Optical A3060 Kana 3305DK-H Kana v2 A3090 Kinzu VT5366 Kinzu v2 3305DK Kinzu v3 A3050 Rival PMW3310H WoW Legendary 3305DK Tesoro Gungnir H5 A3090 Thermaltake Azurues A3080 Azurues mini A3080 Saphira A3090 Talon A3050 Theron Infrared A3090 Turtle Beach Grip 300 A3050 Zowie AM A3090 EC1/2 A3060 EC1/2 eVo A3090 EC1/2-a PMW3310H FK A3090 FK1 PMW3310H Mico 3305DK-H ZA Series PMW3310H Optical Laser (VCSEL) A4Tech Bloody Terminator TL5 A9800 Bloody Terminator TL6 A9800 Bloody Terminator TL7 A9800 Bloody Terminator TL8 A9800 Bloody Terminator TL9 A9800 XL-740K A6010 XL-747H A6010 XL-750BK A6010 Ace of Sweden EDGE 3200 A9500 Anyzen G9 A9500 Aorus Thunder M7 A9500 Asus GX850 A9500 GX860 A9800 GX950 A9800 GX1000 A9800 Spatha A9800 Coolermaster Havoc A9800 Mizar A9800 Sentinel Advance II A9800 Reaper A9800 Corsair/Raptor Gaming M4 A9500 M60 A9500 M65 A9800 M90 A9500 M95 A9800 Sabre Laser A9800 Cougar 600m A9800 700m A9800 Cyber Snipa Silencer A9500 Stinger A6090 EVGA TORQ X5 Laser A9800 TORQ X10 A9800 Func MS-3 A9500 Gamdias Erebos Laser A9800 Hades A9800 Zeus A9800 GEIL Epicgear Anura A9500 Epicgear Meduza A9500 Genius Deathtaker A9500 Gila A9800 Gigabyte Krypton A9800 M6900 A6090 M6980 A6010 M6980X A9500 M8000 A6090 M8000X A9500 G.Skill Ripjaws MX780 A9800 Hades Eris H2 A6098 Leetgion Heelion A9500 El'Druin A9500 James Donkey 007 A9800 Logitech Alienware TactX (Dell) S9500 G3 S6006 G5 S6006 G500 S9500 G500s S9808 G600 S9808 G7 S6006 G700 S9500 G700s S9808 G9 A6090 G9x S9500 Microsoft Sidewinder A6010 Sidewinder x3 A6010 Sidewinder x5 A6010 Mionix Avior 8200 A9800 Naos 5000 A9500 Naos 8200 A9800 Nacon/Big Ben GM-400L A9500 Oklick Hunter A9500 Ozone Argon A9800 Neon A9500 Smog A9500 Patriot V560 A9800 Perixx MX-2000ll A9500 MX-3000R A9800 Powerlogic Alien G9 A9500 Prestigio PMSG1 A9500 Qpad 5K A9500 5K LE A9800 Raidmax Hoorai A6010 Rapoo V900 A9800 Razer Copperhead S6018 Habu (Microsoft) S6018 Ouroboros S9818 Taipan S9818/S9819 Revoltec Fightmouse Elite A9500 Roccat Kone A6090 Kone [+] A9500 Kone Pure A9800 Kone XTD A9800 Tyon A9800 Rosewill RGM-1100 A9800 Sharkoon Darkglider A9500 Drakonia A9500 Drakonia Black A9800 Fireglider A6010 M51 A9800 Speedlink Decus A9500 Kudos/Kudos RS A9500 Steelseries Sensei RAW, Diablo 3, Blackops II, Guild Wars 2, Heroes of the Storm A9500 MLG Sensei A9800 Sensei, Fnatic A9500 WoW A6090 WoW Cataclysm A9500 Xai A9500 Tesoro Gandiva H1L A9800 Shrike H2L A9500 Shrike H2LV2 A9800 Thyrsus A9800 Thermaltake Black "DTA" A9500 Black Element A9500 Level 10M A9800 Theron A9500 Ventus A9500 Ventus X A9500 Volos A9800 Turtle Beach Grip 500 A9800 Zalman ZM-GM1 A9500 ZM-GM3 A9800 ZM-GM4 "Knossos" A9800 "Optical checkerboard" Mionix Saiph 3200 CYONS1001U Nova Slider X600 CYONS1001U Steelseries Ikari Laser CYONS1001U "Doppler Shift" CM Storm Inferno PLN2031 Sentinel/Sentinel Advance PLN2032 Ozone Radon 3K PLN2030 Radon 5K PLN2032 Gigabyte M8600/M8600 v2 PLN2032 Aivia Uranium PLN2032 Razer Imperator PLN2032 Imperator 4G PLN2033 Lachesis PLN2031 Lachesis 3.5G PLN2032 Mamba PLN2032 Mamba 4G PLN2033 Naga/Hex/Epic/Molten/2012 PLN2032 Naga 2013/2014 PLN2034 Orochi PLN2031 Orochi 2013 PLN2033 Spectre PLN2032 Tron PLN2032 Saitek/Mad Catz R.A.T. 3 PLN2030 R.A.T. 5 PLN2031 R.A.T. 5 Refresh PLN2032 R.A.T. 7 PLN2032 R.A.T. 7 Refresh PLN2033 R.A.T. 9 PLN2032 R.A.T. 9 Refresh PLN2033 R.A.T. T.E. PLN2037 R.A.T.M. PLN2033 Tt esports Black "DTG" PLN2031 "Gaming Mice" with Office Sensors (LED and VCSEL) CM Storm Devastator PAW3309 Gamdias Demeter A5050 Demeter Laser A5050 Ourea optical PAW3606DL Gigabyte GM-M6800 PAW3101 James Donkey 112 PAN3509 Nacon / Big Ben GM-105 SPCP 168A GM-300 A5050 Ovann 6d 2400dpi SPCP 168A Perixx MX-800 A5050 Zalman ZM-M300 A5050 MCU´s: A4Tech Bloody V3 SoNiX SN8F2253BSG ASUS ROG Gladius STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-T6U6A Strix Claw NXP LPC11U14F CM Storm Havoc SoNiX SN8F2288 Mizar Holtek HT32F1755 Recon Cypress CY7C64356 Sentinel Advance II SoNiX SN8F2288FG Spawn Cypress CY7C64356 Xornet Cypress CY7C64343 Corsair M45 Freescale MC9S08JM32 M65 Freescale MC9S08JM32 M95 Freescale MC9S08JM32 Cougar 700m NXP LPC11U14F Feenix Nascita Holtek HT82A525R Func MS-3 Weltrend WT6573F Genius G510 Weltrend WT6573F Gila NXP LPC11U14H Maurus X NXP LPC11U14H Leetgion El'Druin Holtek H82A525R Logitech G300 SunplusIT SPCP866E2A G302 STMicroelectronics STM32-L100 R8 G400 SunplusIT SPCP866E2A G400 "Rev.2" SunplusIT SPCP866E2A G402 STMicroelectronics STM32-F102 G500 Freescale MC98JW32 G502 STMicroelectronics STM32-L100 R8 G9X Freescale MC98JW32 MX 518 2nd Gen. Cypress CY7C63743C Mad Catz R.A.T. T.E. Cypress CY7C64215 Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 MLT04 (SoC) Intellimouse Optical 1.1 MLT04 (SoC) Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1 MLT04 (SoC) Mionix Avior 7000 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 Avior 8200 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 Naos 7000 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 Naos 8200 STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-RBT6 Razer Abyssus 3.5G ELAN Microelectronics EM78M680DCMJ Abyssus 2014 NXP LCP11U22F Deathadder 3.5G Cypress CY7C64215 Deathadder 4G/ Chroma Freescale MC9S08JM32 Imperator 3.5G Freescale MC9S08JM6 Taipan NXP LPC11U14F Roccat Kone Pure STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 Kone Pure Military STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 Kone Pure Optical STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 Kone XTD STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T6 Lua Cypress CY7C643 Savu NXP LPC1343 Sharkoon Darkglider Holtek HT82A525R Steelseries Ikari Optical Cypress CY7C64215 Kana Freescale MC9S08JM8 Kana v2 Freescale MC9S08JM8 Kinzu v2 Freescale MC9S08JM8 Rival Freescale MC9S08JM16 Sensei STMicroelectronics STM32-F103-C8T Sensei RAW Freescale MC9S08JM16 Sensei Wireless Freescale MC9S08JM60 XAI STMicroelectronics uPSD3422e Tt eSports Azurues SoNix SN8F2255B Level 10 M SoNiX SN8F2288FG Theron SoNiX SN8F2288FG Ventus SoNiX SN8F2288F6 Volos NXP LCP11U34F Zalman ZM-GM4 "Knossos" Freescale MC9S08JM16 Zowie AM Cypress CY7C64215 EC1/eVo/CL Cypress CY7C64215 EC2/eVo/CL Cypress CY7C64215 FK Cypress CY7C64215 FK1 Cypress CY7C64215 FK2 Cypress CY7C64215

But it comes at a price, being high weight and rather bad weight balance.

You can basically use anything that fits your needs, 3366 isnt picky, except silicone pads like Dex, Hiro, they enhance tracking but the malfunction speed decreases in combination with IR-LED´s, so depending on your Budget and Sensitivity they would be an Option as well.

They are pulling out of the OEM rebranding business, nothing else, normal retail goes on as usual. Or easier to understand, nothing is changing for us.

Depends on what you need? Hand size? Grip? Sensitvity? Extrawürstel? If you dont put out more Info everybody will just spam their own favorite.

60 ips is just the official spec from Avago, which is only true with certain (very) old FW, Spawn can reach nearly 6m/s with the right FW. Also the arent really less reliable than others.

Apparently you are not able to understand what you are reading.

Best you can get in that Pricerange is something with A3050, the gamingversion of A5050(which is used in the Redragon), or PAW 3305, specimen which are using those sensors are: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Programmable-Profiles-specific-Switches/dp/B00CBQO930/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1429673624&sr=8-3&keywords=B00AAQRNQ8|B00BIFNTMC|B00CBQO930|B00DTR1370|B00EL0EIGC|B00EQ32YPG|B00FPAVUHC|B00I008KQ8|B00ODOIZRO http://www.amazon.com/SHARKK%C2%AE-Programmable-Buttons-Profiles-Switches/dp/B00HEX8TA4/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429673630&sr=1-9&keywords=sharkk+mouse http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity%C2%AE-T-142-Precision-Programmable-Buttions/dp/B00H7MAESC/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429673630&sr=1-22&keywords=sharkk+mouse http://www.amazon.com/Gammitus-GS-3500-Ambidextrous-Software-Connector/dp/B00I84MRT2/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429673855&sr=1-3&keywords=Sentey+mouse http://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-GS-3340-Ergonomic-Adjustable-Multicolor/dp/B00I844EQG/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429673855&sr=1-5&keywords=Sentey+mouse But dont expect anything at that pricerange, that OEM stuff is supposed to be as cheap as possible, and while they are using entry level gaming sensors their implementations and FW will be significantly worse in comparison to the "brand" stuff.

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Altough my Opinion has nothing to do with looks but rather overall design and components. EC1 is also anything but small, altough that one is the prime example of what is wrong with Zowie.

Either you dont know anything about mice, or you simply cant handle the truth.

I already wrote why they are in another thread, but if you like to pay full price for hardware from 2007......

Well, thats kinda because they are, pricepoint is far too high for shell and internals.

But that puts everything together, i cant give you any more details as im not sure how much im allowed to talk about which place does what and so on.

Actually the G402 is lighter than the G400s, while being basically the same size, also they are currently working on the esports hype. I wouldnt say millions in R&D, but they certainly make an effort, especially when it comes to feedback. Last but not least, who made that List? There is some stuff wrong in there.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1441817/steelseries-rival-in-depth-review/440#post_23533751

The weight listed on their page is incorrect.

If you are comparing Rival with FK1 then it is no wonder that the Rival is heavier, and so is EC1 in compared to FK1. The rival also doesnt weigh 128g.

Razer is one of the few brands that actually pushes development in certain areas, just saying.

Interesting how the Sniper button changes perception of the product,it is just interesting because all of the Features of the M65 actually go against performance in FPS.

Avior: 125.3×65×36.6 Naos: 130.84×84.72×38.67 What i forgot to mention before is that nobody can know what you would prefer, as for myself, the Naos(and similar) shape is causing cramps because i find it way too forceful, for others it fits very well. Safer bet is the Avior, get the Naos if you know that you can return it and if you want to try something new out. Another Question would be why you have it narrowed down to these two.