4670k upgrade

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I don't play much games these days, but I picked up ni no Kuni 2 a few days back and I get stuttering with even one tab of chrome open, kinda blows me since I'm always mutitasking and I really like the game.

 

Should I try to buy a 4770k/4790k or 4930k/3930k (or their cheaper, overclock-able Xeon counterparts).

I have two z87 boards (one is a Asus ch hero board and the other is a itx board).

I also have a half decent x79 board that needs a new bios chip. (I bought it years ago to either flip or upgrade to)(I also repaired like 5 bent cpu pins, can't beat 25 for the board and a new bios chip)

 

I think I'll go for the Xeon e5 1650 v1/2 because I can get those for 100.

 

I just need it until I upgrade to either ryzen or upgrade my brothers PC so I can take his 6700k.

 

I originally wanted to upgrade to ryzen 3k but I can't justify upgrading my entire platform just to solve a gpu bottleneck on a gaming PC I barely game on anymore. Plus 24/32 gigs of fast but low latency ram for ryzen is expensive for no good reason.

 

Specs:

I5 4670k (had it since lauch, can't oc anymore because it won't stable anything on my hero board because I have 4 sticks of ram)

24gb of adata xpg ram (2x8 + 2x4 oced @ 1866 10-10-10-26)

1070 ti (literally only bought it because I liked the zotac mini design but now I need a amd gpu...)

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Just to clarify, I'm looking for guidance. My guess is that the extreme edtion/Xeon CPUs will allow me to have enough cpu headroom to game while multitasking. Literally the only game I have problems with because I'm a normie who doesn't play AAA titles often.

[sh4z]

i5 4670k to 4770k isn't much of an upgrade, hyperthreaded processor cores don't scale 100%. 4930k/3930k is better, but ni no Kuni II's recommended specs are ivy bridge i7 3770k or AMD FX-8350 ... You're not far off that with the i5 so it should be playable, getting more cores than you need is a good thing which will help your multi tasking out.

 

I'd pick the 4930k over the Xeon e5 1650v1/v2.. Xeon's don't overclock as easily, and the 4930k is clocked slightly higher. The x79 based board will be a much better platform for expansion, but the parts are quite a bit more expensive. (Processor and board mainly, don't go quad core if your using socket 2011 lol)

 

24gb of RAM looks like you're over the 8GB recommended, so that's fine ... and the GTX1070Ti isn't exactly a slouch either, it's already double the requirements of that game. OC to CPU with more memory might need more voltage to your RAM to remain stable, even if your not overclocking it. (I Had this issue with my Haswell rig, 4770k @ 4.2-4.4Ghz requires 1.56v for 1600MHz (32GB kit) Typically you can avoid this if you buy matched sets of RAM (Like a 4 pack that has been validated at the required speed) that doesnt gaurantee it will work though.

 

What are you doing in the background for it to lag? You can try running it Fullscreen windowed mode and see if that nets you any benifit ( I guess your running dual screen or more since your multitasking), also disable the Fullscreen Optimizations in the advanced properites for the game and see if that helps.

Also Turn off Xbox Game Bar if your running Windows 10, that will increase FPS as well.

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51 minutes ago, sh4z said:

i5 4670k to 4770k isn't much of an upgrade, hyperthreaded processor cores don't scale 100%. 4930k/3930k is better, but ni no Kuni II's recommended specs are ivy bridge i7 3770k or AMD FX-8350 ... You're not far off that with the i5 so it should be playable, getting more cores than you need is a good thing which will help your multi tasking out.

 

I'd pick the 4930k over the Xeon e5 1650v1/v2.. Xeon's don't overclock as easily, and the 4930k is clocked slightly higher. The x79 based board will be a much better platform for expansion, but the parts are quite a bit more expensive. (Processor and board mainly, don't go quad core if your using socket 2011 lol)

 

24gb of RAM looks like you're over the 8GB recommended, so that's fine ... and the GTX1070Ti isn't exactly a slouch either, it's already double the requirements of that game. OC to CPU with more memory might need more voltage to your RAM to remain stable, even if your not overclocking it. (I Had this issue with my Haswell rig, 4770k @ 4.2-4.4Ghz requires 1.56v for 1600MHz (32GB kit) Typically you can avoid this if you buy matched sets of RAM (Like a 4 pack that has been validated at the required speed) that doesnt gaurantee it will work though.

 

What are you doing in the background for it to lag? You can try running it Fullscreen windowed mode and see if that nets you any benifit ( I guess your running dual screen or more since your multitasking), also disable the Fullscreen Optimizations in the advanced properites for the game and see if that helps.

Also Turn off Xbox Game Bar if your running Windows 10, that will increase FPS as well.

The Xeon counterparts are actually binned higher, they seem to oc nicely. I talked to a guy who used the same setup as me and he shared his experience/ocing results with me. So as long as I can hit 4.2ghz I should match single core performance with my current i5 when it was oced.

 

I get plenty high fps, it's just I get mean stuttering if I don't cap it to 60 and I get stutters with that in intense fights or areas with lots of visuals. It sits in the hundreds @ 2560x1080

 

I ripped most of my windows 10 install apart. No update, defender is dead for now, and the store somehow resurrected itself. In the least, it might be my something in the background but I don't see anything out of the ordinary besides my cpu being maxed. Which is why I concluded that multitasking while playing this well optimized game is too taxing on my PC.

 

But all I needed was someone to agree that my logic is sound enough.

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Tho I think in the short term I'll try to oc my cpu again, I'll give my ram plenty of voltage. It's weird, on my itx board I could stable 4.4ghz but stayed on 4.2 to stay under stock voltage. I could even boot 4.8 but now it doesn't want to even hold 4ghz. Hopefully the issue was my ram, ig I have Thanksgiving plans now

[sh4z]

I like the Xeon chips too although what you can do with it on the board depends highly on your BIOS/UEFI. good luck!

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1 hour ago, sh4z said:

I like the Xeon chips too although what you can do with it on the board depends highly on your BIOS/UEFI. good luck!

Exactly why I'm aiming for a conservative 4.2 instead of a 4.4/4.5