Has the reccomendation changed?

[ZestyLemonZach]

So I'm throwing together a workstation largely built off of LTT's suggested system in their video "3D Modeling & Design – Do you REALLY need a Xeon and Quadro?"

Now what I am curious about is this little bit where Linus says that the future coffee lake Xeon processors might change this suggestion. So I looked them up and they have indeed, now been released.

So oddly enough even though these are meant to be entry level consumer chips I can't find any for sale anywhere. The  E-2176G card seems to be the closest competitor price wise to the i7 8700k, but I cant find a benchmark for it anywhere, and nobody on youtube seems to be talking about this new xeon release. So, any help out here? 

 

Edit: So I found it has some reports on userbenchmark, and while userbenchmark is a great indicator of gaming performance, I'm more interesting in something like a SpecViewPerf score testing workstation specific tasks.

 

[KarathKasun]

Performance is exactly the same as i5/i7 of the same generation at the same clocks.

 

That Xeon is the same chip withe the same specs as the i7-8700k except that it is locked and it supports ECC memory.

[ZestyLemonZach]

2 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

Performance is exactly the same as i5/i7 of the same generation at the same clocks.

Probably but I'd be more confident with some kind of source or benchmark indicating that. Userbenchmark only goes so far.

[KarathKasun]

1 minute ago, ZestyLemonZach said:

Probably but I'd be more confident with some kind of source or benchmark indicating that. Userbenchmark only goes so far.

No probably, it is exactly the same.

[ZestyLemonZach]

Just now, KarathKasun said:

No probably, it is exactly the same.

Alright but can you give me a source backing that up?

[KarathKasun]

6 minutes ago, ZestyLemonZach said:

Alright but can you give me a source backing that up?

Look at the specs, look at the history of Xeon performance VS their consumer desktop counterparts.

 

They are physically the same chip, the boost clocks are exactly the same, only difference is ~15w of TDP.  Performance will be 95-100% of a stock i7-8700k.

https://ark.intel.com/compare/134860,126684

The inference can be made from ~20 years of data.

[KarathKasun]

~15% difference in TDP is generally ~5% or less difference in performance when you are talking about ~100w parts.

[brob]

Backup a bit. Before getting to relative performance between Xeon and Core cpu, determine which cpu are actually suitable for the workflow.

 

In general most 3D modeling and design software prefers fewer higher performance cores for design work. However, if the cpu is being used for rendering, then more cores provide much better performance.

 

Historically, while "consumer" cpu were higher performance they were limited to four cores. Xeon cpu could have more cores and were therefore the cpu of choice for systems that used the cpu to render. 

 

There are three classes of Intel cpu that can be considered: consumer, HEDT (high end desktop), and server (Xeon). At the moment the consumer i7-8700K has the highest performance cores, but only six. It is a popular cpu for non rendering 3D design and modeling workstations as the applications are very lightly threaded. Popular for more rendering oriented workstations is the more capable HEDT platform. It currently has cpu with up to 18 cores and can have up to 128GB of main memory. 

 

What software is being used?

 

 

[KarathKasun]

Xeon has had workstation CPUs for years (~10+ years now) that are just desktop parts.

 

E3 series is/was desktop class.

E5 is/was HEDT class.

E7 is/was datacenter class.

 

New series seems to be E-21XX for desktop class with no word on HEDT/DC naming.

 

Nevermind, bronze/silver are HEDT and gold/platinum are datacenter.