First PC build suggestions.

[Zyaph]

Hey guys.

I've been gaming pretty much my whole life, and PC gaming the past 11 years or so, however I've only ever really used pre-built PCs.

I've been using an old Acer Predator that was released when Windows 7 first launched, and AMD cards were still called ATI.

I've upgraded a few parts in it, but I can't really do much more than RAM, GPU, or the PSU(literally had to CUT the old PSU out.. it was soldered in...)

 

Here's my current plan at the moment: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8dLsVY

I'd really like some help with specific part planning if anyone has the time. I know a general amount of information about parts, but how exactly they work together, or if the cost is justified for the performance, is way beyond me.

 

- Budget: $1500-$1700CAD MAX
- Zip Code or Location: NL Canada
- Specific Use: Newer gen gaming (possibility of VR in the future)
- Any preferred components?: NVIDIA GPU for the software, ease of installation, and VR support (I've had nothing but trouble with AMD in the past)
- Any spare parts you can re-use?: None
- Overclocking your processor?: Possibility but not priority
- Need an Operating System?: Yes, W10
- Need a Monitor? / Mouse? / Keyboard?: None
- Need a Wireless Card or Adapter? Would be helpful, but not necessary
- Need Another Component? (Specify): Nothing comes to mind

- Preferred Case Features (Ex: Color, Side Window, Flashy):

>Black or Black+Red

>RIGHT Side panel window, if any (not a priority)

>Good cable management

>Good dust filter
- Number of Monitors: One, 1920x1080 https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236358

>Possibly might upgrade to a bigger (~28") screen in the future.

- Other Info?: Need at least 6 USB ports. Literally every peripheral I have is USB.

Heat management is important for me. I live in a weird climate where the winters get to -20c and I have my heater on blast (basement apartment.. so cold), and our summers get up to 30c (and no one has AC!)

I need a PC that won't completely break my bank, but won't become obsolete within 5 years. I'm a student so I can't exactly afford to buy new parts every few years, and I've been saving for a while so I wanna make it count.

I also need AT LEAST  a 2 TB HD, and an SSD to boot would be great.

 

Just kind of an example of what I'm after: I'd like to be able to run Star Citizen (when it launches) on high (not necessarily max) with a good (50+) and stable framerate.

 

Kind of a long list, but thanks if anyone can help!

[Radiant]

id buy a gtx 1070, 6700 or K if you want, for  case a Be Quiet silent base 600 with window and i think the rest of the stuff is clear too you. oh and a h170 if you dont play to overclock and a z170 if you do

[Guest]

So much needed to be changed hold on

[Energycore]

I would wait for reviews on the upcoming Ryzen 5 CPUs because they may come real close to Intel's equivalents while being much cheaper (there's a 4-core, 8 thread SKU that will launch at $170 for instance). They come out April 11 and may be a good value to look at.

[stealth80]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($449.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($133.89 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($62.83 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($514.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Rosewill GUNGNIR ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1604.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 14:33 EDT-0400

 

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[Guest]

Here you go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($449.98 @ DirectCanada) 
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.61 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($111.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($77.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($690.98 @ NCIX) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1695.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 14:34 EDT-0400

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($449.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($133.89 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($62.83 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($514.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Rosewill GUNGNIR ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1604.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 14:33 EDT-0400

 

Windows from G2A/Kinguin - if you don't mind the "potential" gray market

Why a blower style 1070?

212 Evo is poor value, even a deepcool gammaxx 400 is better

He did say he wanted 2TB of storage though

[Gameborn]

just don't buy 1500w psu for rx 460 system. 

[Zyaph]

5 minutes ago, Energycore said:

I would wait for reviews on the upcoming Ryzen 5 CPUs because they may come real close to Intel's equivalents while being much cheaper (there's a 4-core, 8 thread SKU that will launch at $170 for instance). They come out April 11 and may be a good value to look at.

I honestly don't know much at all about ADM processors, but do they play nice with NVIDIA cards? Years ago I always heard stories about them not working well together at all. I'll definitely take a look once it's released though if they do work well together.

3 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Here you go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($449.98 @ DirectCanada) 
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.61 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($111.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($77.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($690.98 @ NCIX) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1695.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 14:34 EDT-0400

How much more performance does a 7700k net you over a 6700k? I still need a copy of W10, so that puts me about $120 over budget.

[Energycore]

Just now, Zyaph said:

I honestly don't know much at all about ADM processors, but do they play nice with NVIDIA cards? Years ago I always heard stories about them not working well together at all. I'll definitely take a look once it's released though if they do work well together.

They do perfectly fine with Nvidia cards. Most reviewers tested them with GTX 1080 Tis in fact.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Zyaph said:

I honestly don't know much at all about ADM processors, but do they play nice with NVIDIA cards? Years ago I always heard stories about them not working well together at all. I'll definitely take a look once it's released though if they do work well together.

How much more performance does a 7700k net you over a 6700k? I still need a copy of W10, so that puts me about $120 over budget.

7700k overclocks higher but for gaming maybe few fps difference. here I revised my build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($384.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($85.75 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($111.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($77.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($690.98 @ NCIX) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($115.96 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1682.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 14:42 EDT-0400

[Gameborn]

Just now, Zyaph said:

I honestly don't know much at all about ADM processors, but do they play nice with NVIDIA cards? Years ago I always heard stories about them not working well together at all. I'll definitely take a look once it's released though if they do work well together.

How much more performance does a 7700k net you over a 6700k? I still need a copy of W10, so that puts me about $120 over budget.

amd cards work nice and amd cpu's have no problems with NVidia cards. Don't listen to fanboy things, always get best price-to-performance hardware. Some say that amd is running hot and NVidia have better drivers, it depends on many things.

[stealth80]

17 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Here you go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($449.98 @ DirectCanada) 
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.61 @ DirectCanada) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($111.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($77.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card  ($690.98 @ NCIX) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1695.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 14:34 EDT-0400

Why did you change the case its not in keeping with the theme.

Its way over budget

no windows solution

small SSD boot drive

quite a low tier PSU for a high end build

low speed ram - 7700k sees quite a boost in gaming performance with 2400+ ram

 

 

15 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Why a blower style 1070?

212 Evo is poor value, even a deepcool gammaxx 400 is better

He did say he wanted 2TB of storage though

212 is one of the best performance/price ratio coolers out there ....

Yes he said 2TB, but I opted to have a larger boot drive, more storage could be added anytime

1070 - the original one the OP picked

[Guest]

Just now, stealth80 said:

Why did you change the case its not in keeping with the theme.

Its way over budget

no windows solution

small SSD boot drive

 

 

212 is one of the best performance/price ratio coolers out there ....

I edited my build later so he can fit an os.

How is it not in theme? It's a black case

He originally went for 120 gb too

 

Deepcool Gammaxx 400 is cheaper and on is even better than a H60 aio

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/deep_cool_gamma_xx_400/4.htm

Spoiler

 

[stealth80]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

I edited my build later so he can fit an os.

How is it not in theme? It's a black case

He originally went for 120 gb too

 

Deepcool Gammaxx 400 is cheaper and on is even better than a H60 aio

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/deep_cool_gamma_xx_400/4.htm

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a H60 is shocking, a H80 performed worse than my 212 evo on my 4790k, (to achieve the same temps it was louder and to cool around -2 - 3C less than the 212 it was a LOT louder, like ridiculous - its what drove me to custom loops)  AIO aren't worth it if theyre not 240mm + imo.

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

a H60 is shocking, a H80 performed worse than my 212 evo on my 4790k, (to achieve the same temps it was louder and to cool around -2 - 3C less than the 212 it was a LOT louder, like ridiculous - its what drove me to custom loops)  AIO aren't worth it if theyre not 240mm + imo.

 

Well the ETS T40 shown there is beating your 212 Evo and Gammaxx 400 still outperforms it

Spoiler

 

[steve-kon]

4 minutes ago, Zyaph said:

I still need a copy of W10, so that puts me about $120 over budget.

You're gonna spend $120 on a Win 10? Why cant you just download the ISO image from the site and activate it with OEM license? I don't specifically know the difference between OEM and retail license but I don't find any difference.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, steve-kon said:

You're gonna spend $120 on a Win 10? Why cant you just download the ISO image from the site and activate it with OEM license? I don't specifically know the difference between OEM and retail license but I don't find any difference.

You still have to pay for the OEM license

[stealth80]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Well the ETS T40 shown there is beating your 212 Evo and Gammaxx 400 still outperforms it

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http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-cpu-cooler-review/6/

 

evidently not

 

http://www.eteknix.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-cpu-cooler-review/7/

 

 

[steve-kon]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

You still have to pay for the OEM license

Yeah but you could get it for like $15 or less. I got mine for 1000 INR(15.348 USD or 20.533 CAD).

[Zyaph]

6 minutes ago, steve-kon said:

You're gonna spend $120 on a Win 10? Why cant you just download the ISO image from the site and activate it with OEM license? I don't specifically know the difference between OEM and retail license but I don't find any difference.

I didn't know there was a price difference. also $120 CAD is around $90 USD. On the MS website it's $150 CAD.. so I'm a little confused about that.

[Guest]

Just now, stealth80 said:

 

 

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-cpu-cooler-review/6/

 

evidently not

 

http://www.eteknix.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-cpu-cooler-review/7/

 

 

Ok, within a fraction of max 3 degrees. But we are not comparing ETS 40 here, we are comparing Gamaxx 400 and it still costs cheaper

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $34.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 15:03 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $29.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 15:03 EDT-0400

[steve-kon]

2 minutes ago, Zyaph said:

I didn't know there was a price difference. also $120 CAD is around $90 USD. On the MS website it's $150 CAD.. so I'm a littler confused about that.

OEM keys are cheap but I think there's a catch to it, I don't know what it is. I bought the key because a window used to pop up every now and then saying windows is not registered. 

[stealth80]

11 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Ok, within a fraction of max 3 degrees. But we are not comparing ETS 40 here, we are comparing Gamaxx 400 and it still costs cheaper

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $34.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 15:03 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $29.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-28 15:03 EDT-0400

again, it isnt

 

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2696&page=5

 

212 over ambient 15.9   9.3 @ 47.1 db

 

400 over ambient 18.2   11.3 @ 48 db

 

cant argue against price though

 

And lol, some interesting results with that Phanteks cooler at almost 2x the price of the Evo

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Phanteks/PH-TC12DX/6.html

 

 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

again, it isnt

 

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2696&page=5

that's one review only