Pau surge

[Doughmay]

Hey! So I have an evga 500+ and I was playing a game when it shut down randomly I booted it back up and my mobo reported a psu surge. I don't know how it happened, I think it might've been cause when I was playing the game I paused for a sec to tighten a thumb screw that I needed to tighten but was too lazy to do it until then, I'm thinking it was static from my clothes or something else, I was able to boot windows OK and it seemed OK after that. Any ideas?

[alexhelvetica]

What is the PSU? EVGA has a lot of PSUs and a couple of lines have a 500W model.

[DisconnectedYT]

My crappy WideTech 750W PSU does this sometimes. If your mobo wasnt made in china for $5 then it should be able to handle that. I wouldn't worry.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

My crappy WideTech 750W PSU does this sometimes. If your mobo wasnt made in china for $5 then it should be able to handle that. I wouldn't worry.

ASUS, MSI, ASRock are all Taiwanese which is almost like China... 

[Doughmay]

So I should be fine considering it's a new mobo? 

[Doughmay]

5 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

What is the PSU? EVGA has a lot of PSUs and a couple of lines have a 500W model.

500+ basic 80+  

[DisconnectedYT]

Just now, Doughmay said:

So I should be fine considering it's a new mobo? 

if its not like a super cheap budget thing that you got for $60 then you should be fine.

My Mobo is $250 i think and it fine ( i think....)

[alexhelvetica]

Just now, Doughmay said:

500+ basic 80+  

What is it powering, your "build" in your signature really isn't helping me at all

[Doughmay]

Just now, DisconnectedYT said:

if its not like a super cheap budget thing that you got for $60 then you should be fine.

My Mobo is $250 i think and it fine ( i think....)

It was priced at 69.99 and I bundled with a CPU so my store took off 40$ ? 

[DisconnectedYT]

Just now, Doughmay said:

It was priced at 69.99 and I bundled with a CPU so my store took off 40$ ? 

hmmm.... i would say that it should still be fine.... but if i where you i wouldnt trust it....

[Doughmay]

1 minute ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

What is it powering, your "build" in your signature really isn't helping me at all

OH sorry for that it's a build I just did so i haven't yet updated my signature 

[alexhelvetica]

9 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

if its not like a super cheap budget thing that you got for $60 then you should be fine.

My Mobo is $250 i think and it fine ( i think....)

$250AUD, not $250 USD.

You have a bomb of a PSU which should not be powering a computer and you don't care which is fine, but  you are derailing a thread about someone who is having a problem and is legitimately concerned about their PC.

7 minutes ago, Doughmay said:

OH sorry for that it's a build I just did so i haven't yet updated my signature 

I just looked at your profile, you should probably upgrade the PSU to something like a Corsair CX, XFX XT or EVGA B, that said a better PSU like the Corsair CX 450/550/650M, Vengeance, RMi/RMx/HXi, EVGA G2, B2, GS, GQ, Anything from Seasonic or XFX and the Antec High Current series would also be fine.

 

That said your PSU shouldn't be surging, it may not be great but it shouldn't be out of specification, that said I have also heard that certain ASUS motherboards surge detector is often wrong.  

[Doughmay]

2 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

$250AUD, not $250 USD. 

You have a bomb of a PSU which should not be powering a computer and you don't care which is fine, but  you are derailing a thread about someone who is having a problem and is legitimately concerned about their PC.

I just looked at your profile, you should probably upgrade the PSU to something like a Corsair CX, XFX XT or EVGA B, that said a better PSU like the Corsair CX 450/550/650M, Vengeance, RMi/RMx/HXi, EVGA G2, B2, GS, GQ, Anything from Seasonic or XFX and the Antec High Current series.

 

That said your PSU shouldn't be surging, it may not be great but it shouldn't be out of specification, that said I have also heard that certain ASUS motherboards surge detector is often wrong.  

So, your point is, my PSU isn't the best and eh I just don't want to kill anything so I'm guessing everything is fine considering it booted correctly? PS updated my signature

[DisconnectedYT]

 

2 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

$250AUD, not $250 USD.

You have a bomb of a PSU which should not be powering a computer and you don't care which is fine, but  you are derailing a thread about someone who is having a problem and is legitimately concerned about their PC.

I just looked at your profile, you should probably upgrade the PSU to something like a Corsair CX, XFX XT or EVGA B, that said a better PSU like the Corsair CX 450/550/650M, Vengeance, RMi/RMx/HXi, EVGA G2, B2, GS, GQ, Anything from Seasonic or XFX and the Antec High Current series.

 

That said your PSU shouldn't be surging, it may not be great but it shouldn't be out of specification, that said I have also heard that certain ASUS motherboards surge detector is often wrong.  

A PSU is a PSU, ive never had a problem with my $50 WideTech Firestarter.... see what i did there ;3

only error ive every got was a one off power surge.

[Doughmay]

2 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

 

A PSU is a PSU, ive never had a problem with my $50 WideTech Firestarter.... see what i did there ;3

only error ive every got was a one off power surge.

Oh, so my psu just had a small slip up, that's all? I was worried I already broke something lol. 

[DisconnectedYT]

Just now, Doughmay said:

Oh, so my psu just had a small slip up, that's all? I was worried I already broke something lol. 

well if it keeps doing it then you have a problem, but if this is the only time its happend then it must just be a one off.

[alexhelvetica]

11 minutes ago, Doughmay said:

So, your point is, my PSU isn't the best and eh I just don't want to kill anything so I'm guessing everything is fine considering it booted correctly?

The computer booting doesn't mean that it is fine. The EVGA W1 is not great, that said if it is working normally it shouldn't be damaging your components.

10 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

 

A PSU is a PSU, ive never had a problem with my $50 WideTech Firestarter.... see what i did there ;3

only error ive every got was a one off power surge.

A PSU is not just a PSU, it is what is powering your system. If it has bad ripple it CAN damage your computer. It CAN kill your computer when its dies it's short life, it can slowly kill your computer and your PC parts will die a lot sooner than expected. The EVGA W1 may not be great, but it is still a real brand and is can be fine for some computer, unlike widetech which is not listed on the hard tech x PSU data base or more importantly, not on 80plus.org.

Do you know what a Surge is? If so, why do you think it is nothing?

[Doughmay]

4 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

well if it keeps doing it then you have a problem, but if this is the only time its happend then it must just be a one off.

Ok. Cool I'll bump the thread later once I confirm tomorrow that my PSU just had a small slip up 

[DisconnectedYT]

4 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

The computer booting doesn't mean that it is fine. The EVGA W1 is not great, that said if it is working normally it shouldn't be damaging your components.

A PSU is not just a PSU, it is what is powering your system. If it has bad ripple it CAN damage your computer. It CAN kill your computer when its short live dies, it can slowly kill your computer and your PC parts will die a lot sooner than expected. The EVGA W1 may not be great, but it is still a real brand and is can be fine for some computer, unlike widetech which is not listed on the hard tech x PSU data base or more importantly, not on 80plus.org.

Do you know what a Surge is? If so, why do you think it is nothing?

A one off power surge could kill your PC but the chances are so minute that its not worth it.

If my PSU did kill my PC then under warranty i would get everything covered and when its outside of warranty i know it still wouldn't kill my pc as yes its crap but ive taken it apart and it looks to be well built.

 

Edit: And if your Mobo is good enough they have Surge Protection. Every Z97 MSI Mobo has very good surge protection. My house could get hit by lightning and nothing would happen.

[Energycore]

35 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

What is the PSU? EVGA has a lot of PSUs and a couple of lines have a 500W model.

Only the 500 W1 and the 500B which are both not great

 

37 minutes ago, Doughmay said:

Hey! So I have an evga 500+ and I was playing a game when it shut down randomly I booted it back up and my mobo reported a psu surge. I don't know how it happened, I think it might've been cause when I was playing the game I paused for a sec to tighten a thumb screw that I needed to tighten but was too lazy to do it until then, I'm thinking it was static from my clothes or something else, I was able to boot windows OK and it seemed OK after that. Any ideas?

I can guarantee that it wasn't static from you, your case is connected to the ground path on your motherboard, which goes to your PSU's ground path which goes to the ground. A PSU surge must have come from a surge from outside (from your AC mains), and if you live in a place that has unstable AC power you'll want to upgrade that PSU to something better. A surge protector will help as well (do connect everything that plugs into your computer into it, that means router, monitors, speakers and etc).

[alexhelvetica]

9 hours ago, DisconnectedYT said:

A one off power surge could kill your PC but the chances are so minute that its not worth it.

If my PSU did kill my PC then under warranty i would get everything covered and when its outside of warranty i know it still wouldn't kill my pc as yes its crap but ive taken it apart and it looks to be well built.

 

Edit: And if your Mobo is good enough they have Surge Protection. Every Z97 MSI Mobo has very good surge protection. My house could get hit by lightning and nothing would happen.

Yes you might be able to claim your PC parts by warranty if your garbage Vic market brand PSU blows up your computer, but is it fair that you are risking your computer which is $800+ on a "fire starter" and you are getting someone else to pay for it (assuming they agree to replace it, which they may not since it was the user's fault), Power Surges are a jolt of high voltage electricity going through a lower voltage line, your VRMs on your motherboard, GPU, HDD and SSD may not be able to handle the garbage power since it only have to be able to handle the very little ripple aloud in the ATX specification for normal operation.

 

9 hours ago, Energycore said:

Only the 500 W1 and the 500B which are both not great

I wasn't sure if the BQ was 500W or 550W, but that said a couple is around or is 2.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

I wasn't sure if the BQ was 500W or 550W, but that said a couple is around or is 2.

BQ only is 650W, 750W and 850W as of today.

[alexhelvetica]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

BQ only is 650W, 750W and 850W as of today.

Is the EVGA product line 

N1 < W1 < NEX-B = B1 < BQ < NEX-G = G1 < B2 < GQ < GS < G2 < PS < P2 < T2 ?

 

[Energycore]

4 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Is the EVGA product line 

N1 < W1 < NEX-B = B1 < BQ < NEX-G = G1 < B2 < GQ < GS < G2 < PS < P2 < T2 ?

 

N1?

 

I would say, 400W < 430W, 500W < 450B, 500B, NEXB < 600B, NEXG, G1, BQ < B2, GQ, GS, 1000G < G2, PS, P2, T2

I think I didn't miss any. As you can see a lot of units just are so good that they're not much better than the others.

[alexhelvetica]

38 minutes ago, Energycore said:

N1?

 

I would say, 400W < 430W, 500W < 450B, 500B, NEXB < 600B, NEXG, G1, BQ < B2, GQ, GS, 1000G < G2, PS, P2, T2

I think I didn't miss any. As you can see a lot of units just are so good that they're not much better than the others.

Non certified 400W PSU

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=436