Building PC with Foundational Knowledge

[ShogunMurry]

Budget (including currency): £750-770

Country: United Kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: General gaming, Photoshop, Blender, Premier Pro/Davinci Resolve, SolidWorks, Coding

The PC is supposed to help me have a more efficient workflow while still being able to play games at good framerates and resolutions. I don't know much about PCs, but I have a parts list and wanted to see what I could add or replace to improve the setup as my list is already at £745. I already have a PS5 so this is more of a work setup that i want.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):
AMD Ryzen 7 5700 with a Wraithe Spire Cooler
CORSAIR RM650 80 PLUS
MSI B5550-A PRO Motherboard ATX
WD_BLACK SN770 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX DDR4 RAM 32GB (2X16)
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060, 8GB GDDR6

MSI MAG FORGE 112R ATX

[Tetras]

How much is the 5700X?

 

HUB were not impressed:

 

8 minutes ago, ShogunMurry said:

Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060, 8GB GDDR6

The 4060 is a faster card for gaming and more power efficient, but, if you hit VRAM limitations in your apps the 3060 12GB might be superior.

[ShogunMurry]

3 minutes ago, Tetras said:

How much is the 5700X?

 

HUB were not impressed:

 

The 4060 is a faster card for gaming and more power efficient, but, if you hit VRAM limitations in your apps the 3060 12GB might be superior.

thanks for the video!
the 5700 with the cooler is 122.95 and the 5700X alone is 142 (both from amazon)
ok i will look at the 3060 as well
so i need to consider VRAM size for any GPU I'm looking at?

 

[Tetras]

3 minutes ago, ShogunMurry said:

so i need to consider VRAM size for any GPU I'm looking at?

I don't use those kind of programs, but from what I'm aware, it depends on the average size of your projects.

 

Different apps also respond differently to running out of VRAM, this is a quote from Puget in one of their articles:

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It is worth noting that these tests do not take into account the amount of VRAM available. With GPU rendering, VRAM can become constrained somewhat easily as scenes become larger and more detailed. This can lead to “out of memory” errors or defaulting back to CPU rendering and losing out on the speed advantages that GPUs provide. Also, note that NVLink is not offered on any of these GPUs, so pooling the VRAM of two GPUs is no longer an option. 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/v-ray-nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-series-performance/

 

4 minutes ago, ShogunMurry said:

the 5700 with the cooler is 122.95 and the 5700X alone is 142 (both from amazon)

Oh, that's a trickier decision then, unless you're buying a cooler.

[ShogunMurry]

7 minutes ago, Tetras said:

I don't use those kind of programs, but from what I'm aware, it depends on the average size of your projects.

 

Different apps also respond differently to running out of VRAM, this is a quote from Puget in one of their articles:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/v-ray-nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-series-performance/

 

Oh, that's a trickier decision then, unless you're buying a cooler.

 

Oh I see. I currently work using an MX450 that has about 2GB of VRAM so i think 12gb might be the better option. trial and error

yes exactly. I think I will stick with the 5700, then if I have issues I can upgrade 

[TatamiMatt]

25 minutes ago, ShogunMurry said:

thanks for the video!
the 5700 with the cooler is 122.95 and the 5700X alone is 142 (both from amazon)
ok i will look at the 3060 as well
so i need to consider VRAM size for any GPU I'm looking at?

 

Are you comfortable buying a CPU from aliexpress? The 7500F. Ive done it a few times now as this CPU isnt available for consumer purchase, just OEM reseller

(also from the UK for context)

 

but itll set you up with AM5 and is incredible for the price if youre comfortable with it, and is about on par with a 5800X

 

Cex is also selling a 16GB 4060Ti for £390, high VRAM and a step above the 4060 for about halfway between 4060Ti 16GB and normal 4060 8GB price

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?id=SGRAGIG406016G01&categoryName=PCI-EXPRESS-GRAPHICS-CARDS&superCatName=COMPUTING&title=&queryID=13228889C7A9F4969E4E4A035F6B6566&position=73

[Tetras]

19 minutes ago, ShogunMurry said:

Oh I see. I currently work using an MX450 that has about 2GB of VRAM so i think 12gb might be the better option. trial and error

yes exactly. I think I will stick with the 5700, then if I have issues I can upgrade 

Ah. Well, if your projects are working fine with just 2GB of VRAM, then the 8GB 4060 should be fine.

 

Since the 4060 is technically the better card (on both performance and power consumption), I'm not sure if you'd get enough longer-term benefit from the 3060's 12GB before you upgrade it again anyway.

[ShogunMurry]

16 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Are you comfortable buying a CPU from aliexpress? The 7500F. Ive done it a few times now as this CPU isnt available for consumer purchase, just OEM reseller

(also from the UK for context)

 

but itll set you up with AM5 and is incredible for the price if youre comfortable with it, and is about on par with a 5800X

 

Cex is also selling a 16GB 4060Ti for £390, high VRAM and a step above the 4060 for about halfway between 4060Ti 16GB and normal 4060 8GB price

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?id=SGRAGIG406016G01&categoryName=PCI-EXPRESS-GRAPHICS-CARDS&superCatName=COMPUTING&title=&queryID=13228889C7A9F4969E4E4A035F6B6566&position=73

ah i see 390 puts me past my budget but thank you

[ShogunMurry]

7 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Ah. Well, if your projects are working fine with just 2GB of VRAM, then the 8GB 4060 should be fine.

 

Since the 4060 is technically the better card (on both performance and power consumption), I'm not sure if you'd get enough longer-term benefit from the 3060's 12GB before you upgrade it again anyway.

ah no the 2gb is definitely not enough for my tasks, but i wanted to feel out the difference between he 8gb and 12gb options and if i do decide to go with the 16gb 4060ti then i just want to be 100%  sure it will match my needs that's all

 

[Tetras]

5 hours ago, ShogunMurry said:

ah no the 2gb is definitely not enough for my tasks, but i wanted to feel out the difference between he 8gb and 12gb options and if i do decide to go with the 16gb 4060ti then i just want to be 100%  sure it will match my needs that's all

Yeah, I understand, the 4060 Ti 16GB is an expensive card, though also one of the cheapest ways to 16GB from nvidia.

 

It'll likely last you a long while, which is nice, but if you're not going to use the VRAM there are better value options.