Should i upgrade?

[Muhkel]

Hello!

I have a bit of an urge to upgrade something on my PC but I'm not sure what or if I should upgrade right now.

But if it's not too costly I'm open to any improvements to any of my parts for better performance and visuals.

 

Budget and Location: Estonia 500€

 

Aim: Playing strategy games from paradox, RPG games like Fallout, Cyberpunk or other big single player titles, I also like to use mods.

The base idea is for my fps to stay smoothly above my monitor refresh rate of 75Hz and look as good as it can be.

 

My current build:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card
Case: Midi Tower ATX Case AKY007BG
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Monitor: LG 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 75 Hz Monitor
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hNmNJy

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, Muhkel said:

Hello!

I have a bit of an urge to upgrade something on my PC but I'm not sure what or if I should upgrade right now.

But if it's not too costly I'm open to any improvements to any of my parts for better performance and visuals.

 

Budget and Location: Estonia 500€

 

Aim: Playing strategy games from paradox, RPG games like Fallout, Cyberpunk or other big single player titles, I also like to use mods.

The base idea is for my fps to stay smoothly above my monitor refresh rate of 75Hz and look as good as it can be.

 

My current build:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card
Case: Midi Tower ATX Case AKY007BG
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Monitor: LG 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 75 Hz Monitor
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hNmNJy

A Radeon 7800 XT would be a great upgrade for this build.

https://www.kimko.ee/en/sapphire-radeon-rx-7800-xt-pulse-gaming-oc-16gb-gddr6-dual-graphics-card-11330-02-20g.html

[Hinjima]

1 minute ago, pergatorio said:

Would it also be worthwhile jumping up to the 5900X for extra cores for larger mods/ amounts of mods?

That would be way over budget though. The 7800XT I linked is 20 euros over budget by itself.

I would say no to that either way, a 5700X3D would be a better upgrade.

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, pergatorio said:

Ah fair enough, and I was just asking generally. Also used this guy could benefit more from a 6800XT or higher for less than the retail of a 7800XT so there's that.

That is if he/she go and buy a used 6800 XT. 

From what I see on Estonian websites is that the 6800 XT is 669 Euros and up while the 7800 XT is at 520 Euros.

 

[Tetras]

6 minutes ago, pergatorio said:

Would it also be worthwhile jumping up to the 5900X for extra cores for larger mods/ amounts of mods?

7800 XT is over twice the speed of the OP's RX 6600 and more likely to be the bottleneck in most games, especially high fidelity single player games and the older games like Fallout tend to be more single core/thread heavy than they are multithreaded. Strategy might use multiple cores, depends on the game, though the 5700X3D is almost certainly the better buy for a gamer.

 

The only way I could imagine the OP being able to upgrade both is getting a 6750 XT or 7700 XT (been some big discounts on this card lately) alongside a 5700X3D.

[Muhkel]

10 minutes ago, Tetras said:

7800 XT is over twice the speed of the OP's RX 6600 and more likely to be the bottleneck in most games, especially high fidelity single player games and the older games like Fallout tend to be more single core/thread heavy than they are multithreaded. Strategy might use multiple cores, depends on the game, though the 5700X3D is almost certainly the better buy for a gamer.

 

The only way I could imagine the OP being able to upgrade both is getting a 6750 XT or 7700 XT (been some big discounts on this card lately) alongside a 5700X3D.

 

12 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

That is if he/she go and buy a used 6800 XT. 

From what I see on Estonian websites is that the 6800 XT is 669 Euros and up while the 7800 XT is at 520 Euros.

 

 

15 minutes ago, pergatorio said:

Ah fair enough, and I was just asking generally. Also used this guy could benefit more from a 6800XT or higher for less than the retail of a 7800XT so there's that.

I am a bit hesitant to look into like used parts and such because I don't think I can tell if there might be something wrong with the thing I'm buying or I'm getting a bad deal.
I've mainly used this local store https://arvutitark.ee/en .

 

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, Muhkel said:

 

 

I am a bit hesitant to look into like used parts and such because I don't think I can tell if there might be something wrong with the thing I'm buying or I'm getting a bad deal.
I've mainly used this local store https://arvutitark.ee/en .

 

I totally understand that!

I like to buy new parts as well in case I have to RMA / return the product due to faults

 

If you are able to push the budget to 550 then this would be a damn good choice.

https://arvutitark.ee/en/pc-components/graphics-cards-vga/sapphire-vga-16gb-rx7800xt-pulse-gaming-2xhdmi2xdp-pulse-a-1312908

 

If you can't then a 7700 XT would also be a great upgrade over your Radeon 6600.

https://arvutitark.ee/en/pc-components/graphics-cards-vga/vga-asus-rx7700xt-12gb-dual-o12g-1332883

[venomtail]

1 minute ago, Hinjima said:

If you are able to push the budget to 550 then this would be a damn good choice.

https://arvutitark.ee/en/pc-components/graphics-cards-vga/sapphire-vga-16gb-rx7800xt-pulse-gaming-2xhdmi2xdp-pulse-a-1312908

Without a doubt, stretch for the 550eur 7800XT. Within a year you'll wish you'd have spent a hair more for a better model.

[Muhkel]

5 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

I totally understand that!

I like to buy new parts as well in case I have to RMA / return the product due to faults

 

If you are able to push the budget to 550 then this would be a damn good choice.

https://arvutitark.ee/en/pc-components/graphics-cards-vga/sapphire-vga-16gb-rx7800xt-pulse-gaming-2xhdmi2xdp-pulse-a-1312908

 

If you can't then a 7700 XT would also be a great upgrade over your Radeon 6600.

https://arvutitark.ee/en/pc-components/graphics-cards-vga/vga-asus-rx7700xt-12gb-dual-o12g-1332883

Thank you for all your responses and feedback.
Is there anything else that I could change or add to my current build? Like cooling, case, monitor.
I do find myself deleting and installing games often due to running out of space on my ssd.

[Dedayog]

8 minutes ago, Muhkel said:

Thank you for all your responses and feedback.
Is there anything else that I could change or add to my current build? Like cooling, case, monitor.
I do find myself deleting and installing games often due to running out of space on my ssd.

If you install your games on the SSD, what is this for?

 

Storage HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive

 

I'd get more SSD space personally, and lose that HDD.

 

Edit:  Hopefully Windows hasn't installed any required files on that HDD.

 

[191x7]

51 minutes ago, Muhkel said:

Hello!

I have a bit of an urge to upgrade something on my PC but I'm not sure what or if I should upgrade right now.

But if it's not too costly I'm open to any improvements to any of my parts for better performance and visuals.

 

Budget and Location: Estonia 500€

 

Aim: Playing strategy games from paradox, RPG games like Fallout, Cyberpunk or other big single player titles, I also like to use mods.

The base idea is for my fps to stay smoothly above my monitor refresh rate of 75Hz and look as good as it can be.

 

My current build:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card
Case: Midi Tower ATX Case AKY007BG
Power Supply: Corsair RM750 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Monitor: LG 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920 x 1080 75 Hz Monitor
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hNmNJy

Don't upgrade your GPU, upgrade your monitor first

 

Then you'll need a stronger GPU and a stronger CPU.

 

But if you have to get something now and you want to stay on 1080p - get a 5700X3D and a Radeon 6800, and eventually the 6700XT, 6750XT, or 7700XT.

[Muhkel]

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

If you install your games on the SSD, what is this for?

 

Storage HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive

 

I'd get more SSD space personally, and lose that HDD.

 

Edit:  Hopefully Windows hasn't installed any required files on that HDD.

 

it's from my old pre-built, i just kept it with all it's data when i did a clean install on the SSD. I thought I'd use it as storage but I haven't really. It's got some like savegames and old stuff idk if I'll need, so data hoarding i guess.

[venomtail]

18 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Don't upgrade your GPU, upgrade your monitor first

 

Then you'll need a stronger GPU and a stronger CPU.

 

But if you have to get something now and you want to stay on 1080p - get a 5700X3D and a Radeon 6800, and eventually the 6700XT, 6750XT, or 7700XT.

Personal perspective but no, not in this case. Monitor upgrades over GPU's are for those people who are high end thinking of upgrading to the 1%. I played on a 5600XT for ages which is close to a 6600XT and I can't imagine a world where I'd pick a new monitor over a low/mid range GPU. From CP77 at High/Custom 90fps~ to ultra, low ray traced 144fps+ on my 6800. Even on my shitty 1080p TN panel the difference in how pretty it looks is huge.

 

Now this video would apply to me now, whether I upgrade the GPU again or a 21st century monitor next.

[Muhkel]

12 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Don't upgrade your GPU, upgrade your monitor first

 

Then you'll need a stronger GPU and a stronger CPU.

 

But if you have to get something now and you want to stay on 1080p - get a 5700X3D and a Radeon 6800, and eventually the 6700XT, 6750XT, or 7700XT.

I'm open to the idea of a monitor, could I do by with dual monitor with a rx 6600, as in keep my old one still? I can also understand if I should wait for a bit longer for something new.

[Dedayog]

20 minutes ago, Muhkel said:

I'm open to the idea of a monitor, could I do by with dual monitor with a rx 6600, as in keep my old one still? I can also understand if I should wait for a bit longer for something new.

You can, but you would only game on one, and the other won't take much resources.  Configure a system mainly for what the main monitor will be.  

 

Frankly, I would get a better GPU first.  You'll either push over the capabilities of the current monitor and want a new one, or your GPU will be able to rock max settings while being in spec of the monitor.

 

Ie.  If you get a 6750XT, you can run 1080p Ultra and enjoy.  If you get a 7800XT, you'll be Ultra but also realize you can be High/Ultra at 1440p as well.  Then you can decide on a monitor.

[Muhkel]

8 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You can, but you would only game on one, and the other won't take much resources.  Configure a system mainly for what the main monitor will be.  

 

Frankly, I would get a better GPU first.  You'll either push over the capabilities of the current monitor and want a new one, or your GPU will be able to rock max settings while being in spec of the monitor.

 

Ie.  If you get a 6750XT, you can run 1080p Ultra and enjoy.  If you get a 7800XT, you'll be Ultra but also realize you can be High/Ultra at 1440p as well.  Then you can decide on a monitor.

I would think about watching some shows or movies on the second but I'd probably still want to use the better one sometimes for watching movies in higher quality.
But I guess I could do a monitor later.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Muhkel said:

I would think about watching some shows or movies on the second but I'd probably still want to use the better one sometimes for watching movies in higher quality.
But I guess I could do a monitor later.

It's a process

 

Don't feel rushed or worry about money or resolution or fps.  There is no need to go 1440p or high refresh 1080p, the games don't change or give different endings

 

Just enjoy what you have and upgrade when/if you can.  

 

As long as you can use your machine to do things, all is good.

[Muhkel]

30 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

It's a process

 

Don't feel rushed or worry about money or resolution or fps.  There is no need to go 1440p or high refresh 1080p, the games don't change or give different endings

 

Just enjoy what you have and upgrade when/if you can.  

 

As long as you can use your machine to do things, all is good.

Thank you, I just get a little wrapped up in the excitement of building and upgrading.

[Dedayog]

8 minutes ago, Muhkel said:

Thank you, I just get a little wrapped up in the excitement of building and upgrading.

We all do!  It's hella fun!

 

Look at mine, and many others, signature blocks below.

 

You can tell who has a problem

[Muhkel]

29 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

We all do!  It's hella fun!

 

Look at mine, and many others, signature blocks below.

 

You can tell who has a problem

Quite the list but looks awesome!