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[In5mice]

Is buying rx 7800xt a good choice compared to the rtx 4070.

Describe in what ways it is a right choice to buy and in what is wrong to go with rx 7800xt.

[PDifolco]

8 minutes ago, In5mice said:

Is buying rx 7800xt a good choice compared to the rtx 4070.

Describe in what ways it is a right choice to buy and in what is wrong to go with rx 7800xt.

Pros

Cheaper, but not by much now (-$30 vs a 4070 non Super)

More VRAM, 16GB to 12 (but 16GB won't be needed at 1440p for quite some time yet)

Better raster performance (5%+) vs a 4070, but worse than a 4070S by as much)

 

Cons

No DLSS, FSR is worse esp. below 4K res

Way worse RT performance in RT heavy games like CP2077 (should be around last gen 3070 level pf perf)

 

Overall both are good choices for 1440p gaming, choose your poison

 

[In5mice]

29 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Pros

Cheaper, but not by much now (-$30 vs a 4070 non Super)

More VRAM, 16GB to 12 (but 16GB won't be needed at 1440p for quite some time yet)

Better raster performance (5%+) vs a 4070, but worse than a 4070S by as much)

 

Cons

No DLSS, FSR is worse esp. below 4K res

Way worse RT performance in RT heavy games like CP2077 (should be around last gen 3070 level pf perf)

 

Overall both are good choices for 1440p gaming, choose your poison

 

Yes I Consider all your concern But If I'm buying anyone of the above Gpus then I will use it for about upcoming 5-6 years, then which one you recommend to buy and also don't forget to explain it.

[filpo]

9 minutes ago, In5mice said:

Yes I Consider all your concern But If I'm buying anyone of the above Gpus then I will use it for about upcoming 5-6 years, then which one you recommend to buy and also don't forget to explain it.

It depends if you will use nvidia's features or not. And if you will use RT, that said, radeon 7000 series isn't too bad for RT. FSR is worse, but FSR 3.1 should bring improvements, so I'd say the 7800 XT

 

What games do you play?

[In5mice]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

It depends if you will use nvidia's features or not. And if you will use RT, that said, radeon 7000 series isn't too bad for RT. FSR is worse, but FSR 3.1 should bring improvements, so I'd say the 7800 XT

 

What games do you play?

I will play AAA games(Spiderman,Ghost of Tsushima etc)and also play esports game like(Valorant,Cod,Apex)and what you mean by Nvidia features can you pls exactly tell me ? 

[Hellowpplz]

2 minutes ago, In5mice said:

I will play AAA games(Spiderman,Ghost of Tsushima etc)and also play esports game like(Valorant,Cod,Apex)and what you mean by Nvidia features can you pls exactly tell me ? 

Dlss, frame generation, rtx cores

[filpo]

Just now, In5mice said:

what you mean by Nvidia features can you pls exactly tell me ? 

they've got DLSS (a better upscaler than FSR), better RT (unless you're going to use RT in games then that's not really useful), RTX Voice (which drowns out background noise and focuses on the person's voice), VSR (which upscales a video you're watching, supported by browsers, for any video such as youtube or even netflix, however I do not know if it still works in netflix)

Frame generation puts new frames in to make you perceive a higher frame rate, but I haven't really seen a use for it

2 minutes ago, In5mice said:

will play AAA games(Spiderman,Ghost of Tsushima etc)and also play esports game like(Valorant,Cod,Apex

7800 XT is my choice then, 7800 XT performs the same or better in these games (normally better) and has more vram

[In5mice]

4 minutes ago, Hellowpplz said:

Dlss, frame generation, rtx cores

for Dlss I'm hoping for FSR 3.1

Frame generation let's forget it

Rt takes more resources and less effective

16 minutes ago, filpo said:

It depends if you will use nvidia's features or not. And if you will use RT, that said, radeon 7000 series isn't too bad for RT. FSR is worse, but FSR 3.1 should bring improvements, so I'd say the 7800 XT

 

What games do you play?

 

58 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Pros

Cheaper, but not by much now (-$30 vs a 4070 non Super)

More VRAM, 16GB to 12 (but 16GB won't be needed at 1440p for quite some time yet)

Better raster performance (5%+) vs a 4070, but worse than a 4070S by as much)

 

Cons

No DLSS, FSR is worse esp. below 4K res

Way worse RT performance in RT heavy games like CP2077 (should be around last gen 3070 level pf perf)

 

Overall both are good choices for 1440p gaming, choose your poison

 

This question is from all of you if we think how demanding games are became and will become in future for ex GTA 6 will able to run in 12 gigs of Vram and if we not consider GTA the other games in upcoming 5-6 years will able to run in rtx 4070(considering 12 gigs of vram).

So as per all of your opinion pls tell me wether go to rx 7800 xt or go with 4070. 

16gb vram vs 12 gb vram.

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, In5mice said:

So as per all of your opinion pls tell me wether go to rx 7800 xt or go with 4070. 

16gb vram vs 12 gb vram.

7800 XT.

[Hellowpplz]

8 minutes ago, In5mice said:

Dlss I'm hoping for FSR 3.1

dlss is nvidia's fsr just to be clear. I could be wrongbut how you worded this is implying you think fsr is a type of dlss.

[PDifolco]

36 minutes ago, In5mice said:

for Dlss I'm hoping for FSR 3.1

Frame generation let's forget it

Rt takes more resources and less effective

 

This question is from all of you if we think how demanding games are became and will become in future for ex GTA 6 will able to run in 12 gigs of Vram and if we not consider GTA the other games in upcoming 5-6 years will able to run in rtx 4070(considering 12 gigs of vram).

So as per all of your opinion pls tell me wether go to rx 7800 xt or go with 4070. 

16gb vram vs 12 gb vram.

Can't really say for the future, but imo at 1440p you'll be good with 12GB VRAM for at least 2-3 years, there's a limit to texture size creep

But if ever you plan going 4K you'd better get 16GB

[In5mice]

44 minutes ago, Hellowpplz said:

dlss is nvidia's fsr just to be clear. I could be wrongbut how you worded this is implying you think fsr is a type of dlss.

I didnt tell that fsr is type of dlss i said to compete with nvidia dlss 3 I'm hoping that amd fsr3.1 will give it a neck to neck battle

[In5mice]

15 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Can't really say for the future, but imo at 1440p you'll be good with 12GB VRAM for at least 2-3 years, there's a limit to texture size creep

But if ever you plan going 4K you'd better get 16GB

How can you say that 12 gb is good for 2-3 years i watched many benchmarks and came to conclusion that nowadays 10-11 gb is must for 1440p and looking at Hogwart legacy,Cyberpunk,Starfield they all are consuming lot of vram as well as requires a very much powerfull card.I'm also very confused from last 3-4 months about these 2 cards due to performance and nvidia's fanboy but after making a rational and practical decison i came at the conclusion to buy 7800xt

i want more suggestion to clear my all doubts and pls tell me if i buy 7800xt will I'm going to face heavy driver failure pls help me

[PDifolco]

4 minutes ago, In5mice said:

How can you say that 12 gb is good for 2-3 years i watched many benchmarks and came to conclusion that nowadays 10-11 gb is must for 1440p and looking at Hogwart legacy,Cyberpunk,Starfield they all are consuming lot of vram as well as requires a very much powerfull card.I'm also very confused from last 3-4 months about these 2 cards due to performance and nvidia's fanboy but after making a rational and practical decison i came at the conclusion to buy 7800xt

i want more suggestion to clear my all doubts and pls tell me if i buy 7800xt will I'm going to face heavy driver failure pls help me

Well rn most demanding games need like 10GB max settings at 1440p, if ever some newer ones need 13 or 14GB in a couple years you can just tone down texture details

Now if you lean towards the 7800XT it doesn't matter

I've had no big issues with AMD drivers since the 1 year I use my 7900XTX, gone are the days of crashing AMD drivers !

[filpo]

5 hours ago, In5mice said:

I didnt tell that fsr is type of dlss i said to compete with nvidia dlss 3 I'm hoping that amd fsr3.1 will give it a neck to neck battle

FSR already has a FG competitor. It works with less games tho iirc

[Hellowpplz]

8 hours ago, PDifolco said:

gone are the days of crashing AMD drivers

when is it intel's turn tho

[In5mice]

22 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Well rn most demanding games need like 10GB max settings at 1440p, if ever some newer ones need 13 or 14GB in a couple years you can just tone down texture details

Now if you lean towards the 7800XT it doesn't matter

I've had no big issues with AMD drivers since the 1 year I use my 7900XTX, gone are the days of crashing AMD drivers !

Yes you are talking right in some first few lines but then why you choose AMD over Nvidia 

And after considering your suggestion then for how many years I can play games on 1440p resolution with 70+fps(atleast) and will it able to run gta 6 

[PDifolco]

31 minutes ago, In5mice said:

Yes you are talking right in some first few lines but then why you choose AMD over Nvidia 

And after considering your suggestion then for how many years I can play games on 1440p resolution with 70+fps(atleast) and will it able to run gta 6 

Can't say how you'll run a non existing yet game 

What's sure is that atm the 7800X does a good job at 1440p, and with 16GB VRAM it should stay strong for 3-4yrs

But it's not the only variable, look at Dragon Dogma 2, it runs like crap even on Godzilla systems because it needs an insane amount of CPU power, and bottleneck even the best CPU at 4K with top end GPU... 

 

 

[In5mice]

21 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Can't say how you'll run a non existing yet game 

What's sure is that atm the 7800X does a good job at 1440p, and with 16GB VRAM it should stay strong for 3-4yrs

But it's not the only variable, look at Dragon Dogma 2, it runs like crap even on Godzilla systems because it needs an insane amount of CPU power, and bottleneck even the best CPU at 4K with top end GPU... 

 

 

So what you want to suggest me rtx 4070 or Rx 7800xt with considering gaming,editing I'm so much confuse.

[PDifolco]

9 minutes ago, In5mice said:

So what you want to suggest me rtx 4070 or Rx 7800xt with considering gaming,editing I'm so much confuse.

I'd say like @filpo 7800XT, more VRAM, some more performance

Unless you really think RT/DLSS are important